2nd clash with 997
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the more I look around, the more I think this was the CAR, same exhaust, the new 997 exhaust was different. This car said (auto gallery )around the license plate. Some guy and his babe... going up Fairfax turning onto Hollywood blvd..I guess I should have done better since you only had 500 hp :-D
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the more I look around, the more I think this was the CAR, same exhaust, the new 997 exhaust was different. This car said (auto gallery )around the license plate. Some guy and his babe... going up Fairfax turning onto Hollywood blvd..I guess I should have done better since you only had 500 hp :-D
Oh I dumped it for a CL65- I wanted a luxo freeway killer-
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YEP...Ok I feel better....560 hp explains it , also why the driver was so quick to react when I slid off Sunset to Fairfax.. Had to be the car, wow it was sik(TM) Sixty Five is a killer roll.
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so I went to look for a rear shot of my car and I cant access my home files from here but I found this shot ... probably wont confirm your thoughts on if it was mine or not ...
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Should I even bother lining up my CL65 against a newer 911T? Seems like you would be the guy to ask since you know both cars well.
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http://www.caranddriver.com/cars/397...-turbogt2.html
They claim 3.9. The best I ever got in my 911tt (w/mods) was 3.7. Remeber- this is an everyday supercar.
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I have never even herd anyone claim that a 996tt does 0-60 in 4.7. I hope you understand that tt stands for twin turbo. 4.7 is so slow and not even close to actual (3.9-4.2 bone stock). My Cayenne Turbo does it in 5.0 sec (mods). Also, most drivers will get faster launches with the tiptronic box. It proven to shift faster than an average driver. Take a look at this article from car and driver:
http://www.caranddriver.com/cars/397...-turbogt2.html
They claim 3.9. The best I ever got in my 911tt (w/mods) was 3.7. Remeber- this is an everyday supercar.
http://www.caranddriver.com/cars/397...-turbogt2.html
They claim 3.9. The best I ever got in my 911tt (w/mods) was 3.7. Remeber- this is an everyday supercar.
i know this isnt a good example but the 997 C2S, does 0-100mph in 10.7s with manual and 11.6s with auto
and this is also from the web >
With this five-speed automatic transmission which can also be shifted manually via rocker switches at the steering wheel,acceleration from a standstill to 100 km/h comes in 4.8 seconds
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From a dig it would be hard to beat a tip since the driver equation is out (997TT). If you line up against a 997TT 6spd then its how strong of launch you get versus the tt. The problem with our 65's is there is too much torque and wheelspin is excessive. I chipped my 65 so I have even more torque and you have to truly feather the throttle. As for a rolling race the 65 traps nicely so the result would be different IMO especially over 120 mph speeds.
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My experience:
1) In regards to shifting...in S mode, once you start the car...it will be in 2nd, until you downshift it to 1st...when racing...down shift to the proper gear and then hit it...the computer will do the rest...BUT, if you saw my other posts, Mercedes states the the M mode shift 50% quicker...I didn't believe them...until I tried this past weekend...it appeared to be true! Only problem, when in 1st, it revs so quickly, it is tough to shift to 2nd at the right time before it redlines!
2) If you search www.video.goole.com, for M6 v 996, you will see that the M6 wins...I have raced my buddy's M6 (w/ECU upgraded) with my CLS63 in S mode and I beat him out of the hole and to 100 MPH every time(he is no schmuck, he can drive)...Therefore, I am very confident that the CLS63 could beat a 996tt.
...also, I tested the waters on a relatively new SL55 in the area, twice---the CLS63 won both of those...
just my 2¢
1) In regards to shifting...in S mode, once you start the car...it will be in 2nd, until you downshift it to 1st...when racing...down shift to the proper gear and then hit it...the computer will do the rest...BUT, if you saw my other posts, Mercedes states the the M mode shift 50% quicker...I didn't believe them...until I tried this past weekend...it appeared to be true! Only problem, when in 1st, it revs so quickly, it is tough to shift to 2nd at the right time before it redlines!
2) If you search www.video.goole.com, for M6 v 996, you will see that the M6 wins...I have raced my buddy's M6 (w/ECU upgraded) with my CLS63 in S mode and I beat him out of the hole and to 100 MPH every time(he is no schmuck, he can drive)...Therefore, I am very confident that the CLS63 could beat a 996tt.
...also, I tested the waters on a relatively new SL55 in the area, twice---the CLS63 won both of those...
just my 2¢
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So... in S mode does the car shifts for you? Like when you tap the down shift lever(55)/paddle(63) and put the car in 2nd gear going around 35mph, you punch it will it take it to redline, and shifts up to subsequent gears?
My experience:
1) In regards to shifting...in S mode, once you start the car...it will be in 2nd, until you downshift it to 1st...when racing...down shift to the proper gear and then hit it...the computer will do the rest...BUT, if you saw my other posts, Mercedes states the the M mode shift 50% quicker...I didn't believe them...until I tried this past weekend...it appeared to be true! Only problem, when in 1st, it revs so quickly, it is tough to shift to 2nd at the right time before it redlines!
just my 2¢
1) In regards to shifting...in S mode, once you start the car...it will be in 2nd, until you downshift it to 1st...when racing...down shift to the proper gear and then hit it...the computer will do the rest...BUT, if you saw my other posts, Mercedes states the the M mode shift 50% quicker...I didn't believe them...until I tried this past weekend...it appeared to be true! Only problem, when in 1st, it revs so quickly, it is tough to shift to 2nd at the right time before it redlines!
just my 2¢
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100% but this is with a manual gearbox right ? from what i know all porsche (bar the 997tt) acceleration times really suffer from an automatic gearbox?
i know this isnt a good example but the 997 C2S, does 0-100mph in 10.7s with manual and 11.6s with auto
and this is also from the web >
http://www.356-911.com/post1974/2004...04996turbo.htm
i know this isnt a good example but the 997 C2S, does 0-100mph in 10.7s with manual and 11.6s with auto
and this is also from the web >
http://www.356-911.com/post1974/2004...04996turbo.htm
Gears- I have herd that the tip will be faster than 90% of the drivers out there using the manual gear box. I have never seen porsche publish this however. From my experience with both gear boxes (in porsche club- I have driven the manual plenty of times), you really need to get a good launch to beat the tip. The all wheel drive and wide rubber gives the car so much grip, that many drivers do not rev high enough in the manual before dropping the clutch and car falls on itself (only for a split second). It is really hard to screw up a launch with the tip. I just turn off psm, drop in first and power brake the car. There is a rev limiter around 3k rpms. Just let the brake out and you have almost perfect launches every time. For those who know the gear box and nail it dead on, they will be quicker than the tip because there revs will remain above the 3k rpm throughout the launch.
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This is usually the same technique I use. The car will upshift for you but only at redline. Otherwise it holds the gear. I too have noticed the difficulty of shifting out of first in M mode. I usually shift into second around 6k rpms otherwise the limiter kicks in and through me forward.
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This is usually the same technique I use. The car will upshift for you but only at redline. Otherwise it holds the gear. I too have noticed the difficulty of shifting out of first in M mode. I usually shift into second around 6k rpms otherwise the limiter kicks in and through me forward.
Yep,
Thanks for all the info. Everything written in this thread I have experienced in my car. At this point I am 90% convinced I was matched against a 996 that was chipped to 560 hp and owned previously by Vic 55. This makes sense because the brand new 997 I faced did not have the gid e up of this chipped car. I will use the downshift tech tomorrow on the way home from Simonson
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You should definitely get the car checked out . When in 'S' mode my car starts in 1st gear everytime. And the car grabs the asphalt and just catapults the car forward. Taking a 911S .....any day of the week. A 996TT or 997TT I think would be a different story.
Still don't understand all this talk about the 63's not living up to par...my E63
feels pretty dam fast.
Still don't understand all this talk about the 63's not living up to par...my E63
feels pretty dam fast.
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From Edmunds.com, I understand that a 997tt weighs a feather under 3,500lbs, and has 460lb/ft of torque, with a sport button option that can give it up to 505lb/ft of torque for a few seconds at a time. Please read quote from the Edmunds.com review:
"hitting the Sport button also activates an overboost function which engages only at full throttle and only for 10 seconds at a time. It allows for an extra 3 pounds of boost, which translates into a brief 505 lb-ft of peak torque at just over 2,000 rpm."
So I do not believe the CLS 63, wighing at least 600lbs more can claim to beat this Porsche. On the other hand, should a 2007 S65 AMG be in the vicinity...
"hitting the Sport button also activates an overboost function which engages only at full throttle and only for 10 seconds at a time. It allows for an extra 3 pounds of boost, which translates into a brief 505 lb-ft of peak torque at just over 2,000 rpm."
So I do not believe the CLS 63, wighing at least 600lbs more can claim to beat this Porsche. On the other hand, should a 2007 S65 AMG be in the vicinity...
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hey juice,
I had a thought about this. Have you tried doing a ECU reset? I bet you'll start in first in S mode if you do. Until you start driving it like a gradma again and it'll go back to shifting from 2nd.
1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position.
2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset.
I had a thought about this. Have you tried doing a ECU reset? I bet you'll start in first in S mode if you do. Until you start driving it like a gradma again and it'll go back to shifting from 2nd.
1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position.
2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset.
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hey juice,
I had a thought about this. Have you tried doing a ECU reset? I bet you'll start in first in S mode if you do. Until you start driving it like a gradma again and it'll go back to shifting from 2nd.
1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position.
2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset.
I had a thought about this. Have you tried doing a ECU reset? I bet you'll start in first in S mode if you do. Until you start driving it like a gradma again and it'll go back to shifting from 2nd.
1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position.
2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset.
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It was fixed at the dealer, the transmission software was updated. The car upon testing was shifting too fast out of first in all modes. So it was confirmed the car was not starting in first until after reset. only reason the 560 hp P car jumped me was the fact the transmission was screwy. It had been for a few hundred miles. There is a software update available and my car needed it. The service computer was also 12000 miles off..This was also reset. Your fix likely would have worked as well. Thanks for the advice. Have you gone for the first "checkup"? Car is racy as hell now
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