Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin

...........happy for you. Most 63's DO NOT start in 1st gear.

AMG_55, 0-60 times are gradually becomming obsolete. This is because as the HP wars result in creation of cars with HP in the stratosphere, traction from a dig dictates 0-60 times. For instance, the published 0-60 time for the SL65 is 4.2 secs. Of course the SL65 is not slower than the E63. Races run over a longer distance such as 1/4 mile are more useful. Sometimes to compensate for this, cars are run fr0m 5-60 instead of 0-60.

Ted

Originally Posted by TREZ63

Okay, I just watched that video. It was a raving review with the exception of the part you pointed out. The guy didn't sound like he knew what he was talking about. "Faster and Quicker" what the heck does that mean? How are those different? Anyway, I test drove both, and the 550 IS fast, but the 63 is ridiculously fast, when you punch it, it moves like a raped ape. The 550 struggles while the 63 does it with ease.

Originally Posted by kip

I think the gearing prefers the 0-60 times because in the 0-100km/h or other tests here in Europe there is no comparison.

E63 is much quicker and so is the E55.

By the way here the E500 is the same as the E550 there.

Mercedes-Benz E 500 Elegance - 2006 (Serie)


Motorart V 8
Hubraum 5461 ccm
Aufladung Sauger/Euro 4
PS - UMin 388 PS (285 kW) - 6000/Min
Nm - UMin 530 Nm - 2800/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 7/Automatik
Test in ams 12/2006
Gewicht 1835 kg
0 - 80 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,4 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,4 s
0 - 130 km/h 8,4 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,5 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,3 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,6 s
0 - 200 km/h 19,4 s
0 - 250 km/h - s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 38 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 38 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs - min
Motopark Oschersleben - min
Querbeschleunigung - g
Slalom 18 m 60,9 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest 131,1 km/h
Testverbrauch min/max/ges 8,2/16,3/13,9 L/SB
Grundpreis 62.582 Euro (05/2006)
Testwagenpreis - Euro

Mercedes-Benz E 63 AMG W211 Limousine - 2006 (Serie)


Motorart V 8
Hubraum 6208 ccm
Aufladung Sauger/Euro 4
PS - UMin 514 PS (378 kW) - 6800/Min
Nm - UMin 630 Nm - 5200/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 7/Automatik
Test in ams 16/2006
Gewicht 1935 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,7 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,9 s
0 - 120 km/h 6,6 s
0 - 130 km/h 7,5 s
0 - 140 km/h 8,5 s
0 - 160 km/h 10,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 13,5 s
0 - 200 km/h 16,5 s
0 - 250 km/h - s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 39 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 38 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs - min
Motopark Oschersleben - min
Querbeschleunigung - g
Slalom 18 m 62,2 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest 110 m 138,0 km/h
Testverbrauch min/max/ges 11,0/22,3/16,5 L/SP
Grundpreis 95.468 Euro (07/2006)
Testwagenpreis - Euro


Mercedes E55 AMG - 2003 (Serie)


Motorart V 8
Hubraum 5439 ccm
Aufladung Kompressor
PS - UMin 476 PS - 6100/Min
Nm - UMin 700 Nm - 2650/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 5/Automatik
Test in sport auto 01/2003
Gewicht 1944 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,3 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,6 s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 38,0 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 38,3 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.18,0 min
Querbeschleunigung 1,05 g
Slalom 18 m 61,5 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest - km/h
Testverbrauch 20,5 L/SB
Testwagenpreis 99.476 Euro

Originally Posted by juicee63

The car and driver test suggests otherwise see below


To a certain extent, that’s what our numbers show. The CLS63 gets to 60 mph from rest in a blistering 4.1 seconds, a tenth quicker than the CLS55, but is identical otherwise up to 120 mph and shares a 12.6-second quarter-mile time. The 30-to-50 and 50-to-70-mph figures show the benefits of the supercharged motor’s fatter torque curve (2.2 and 2.5 seconds, respectively, compared with 2.5 and 3.1 for the CLS63), while the extra top-end grunt of the 63 comes into play above 120 mph. By 150 mph, the CLS63 is ahead by almost a second and a half.


63 engine destroys the 55 above 120 making up for falling behind 30-70..This seems very accurate from my personal experience racing the 55. You may get pulled mid track but usually you can hold the 55 off after 90 mph . But if you fail to get the jump on the 55 you lose everytime , 63 will not pull a healthy 55 but it most certainly will reel in a 550. Edmunds made a mistake thats all. The cars performance wise (63 vs 550) is truly understated in this video. The 550 is great and a good choice for a powerful, capable sedan but no way is it keeping pace with either AMG55 or AMG63

Originally Posted by TREZ63

All 63s start in 1st gear. I have driven around 10 of them (AMG Challenge). There is a transmission update that fixes the 2nd gear start.

Originally Posted by kip

I dont understand what you mean by car and driver getting different results. 550 is always a lot slower??!! The results are exavtly the same!

E550:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...benz-e550.html

It’s hard for us to dislike a car that can hurl itself to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds and cover a quarter-mile in 13.4 at 106 mph. Not so long ago those numbers would have rivaled a Corvette’s, and they’re better than the sprints posted by the first-generation E55 AMG, not to mention the best in this test. The updated E-class Benz achieves this the old-fashioned way: It has more muscle and a torque curve whose topography is similar to Nebraska’s — long and flat.



E63:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...z-e63-amg.html

Paired with the Mercedes seven-speed automatic, the AMG V-8 delivers 4.2-second 0-to-60-mph runs and covers the quarter-mile in 12.6 seconds at 115 mph — about the same as the E55 AMG, even though the E63 weighs in some 80 pounds heavier. The seven-speed automatic has a paddle-shifted manumatic function that really knows how to follow orders, no independent decisions, unlike the Audi’s six-speed auto. As an aside, we have a confession to make: As much as we like the sense of involvement that goes with a good manual gearbox, we have to admit that the latest manumatic and automated manual transmissions are pretty compelling, particularly allied with big-output powerplants such as the ones under scrutiny here

E55:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...ets-page3.html

Propelled by the same supercharged 5.4-liter SOHC 24-valve V-8 employed in the SL55 AMG, albeit with a little less horsepower, it’s even faster than the SL55 we tested last November, clocking 0 to 60 in 4.3 seconds, 0 to 100 in 9.9, 0 to 150 in 24.5, and the quarter in 12.5 seconds at 116 mph. That’s quicker than anything else in this roundup—quicker, in fact, than any production sedan we’ve ever tested. Sports-car quick. The last Corvette Z06 we tested (December 2001) hit 60 mph in 4.0 seconds, 100 in 9.2, and 150 in 24.1, and it covered the quarter in 12.4 seconds at 116 mph.