E55AMGGG04

I lost to another 335i also he's on this forum (blackedout335i) and I raced him also with my failing pump and lost. I will get the chance to race him again soon even though his car is quicker now then when he beat me last time. I will be interested to see how well I do with my car running healthy as ever.

PEARSON627

Well I just did a 30 mph roll on with a 335i, I had no idea about this tread or I would have asked the guy what he had done to the car. I have a stock CLS55 with about 400lb of human cargo, the guy looked to be 150 wet and the race ended at about 90mph and it was DEAD even.

juicee63

He was chipped, they like to sneak up on the AMG, you look over you say oh a 335? A little 4 door, pretty brave to goose a CLS 55. Yet the car has TT, it has hp and tq for days and definately has suprised plenty of AMG cars.

You needed to lose about 300 lbs of that human cargo, then you win!

JustPete

JustPete

The difference comes from a dig. The lighter higher revving car will always win/do better in a race like that with near the same hp.

Just my opinion ... but I think the guys attempt in the CLS was WEAK.

And like I said ... with mine, traction control on, you drop the hammer on it at 5mph and it's like you got stuck in the mud.

Traction control off , she screams like a bat out of hell and scares women and children for miles.

E55AMGGG04

That little 335i coupe is pushing about 370-380 torque to the wheels in a 3500lb car. It will have the same problem as a 55.

turbotom1

I crack myself up.













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juicee63

hehe

turbotom1

The car is great for what it is but my point is "no one is going to take you seriously if your driving around in a 3 series"

Your tagged as a light weight.

Stereotypes:
young and starting out
just graduated
a girl
have bad credit
never made it in the working world

https://mbworld.org/forums/att...0&d=1211727371

Parents love when they can say they gave their kid a BMW. Men get pride when he tells his friends he gave his wife one for her birthday.

Blackedout335i

Hey TurboTom,

I see you live on Long Island, would you want to set up some friendly runs to see what "a girl" car can do to your CLS55?? Maybe you will be pictured as a grandmother on video after i am done with you.

JustPete

Well ... if I read correctly the 335 is nearer to 3600lbs and there was 480lbs of drivers in it.

The CLS55 030's according to my specs weighs in at approximately 4100lbs and it had a 180lb driver.

BMW - 10.85 lbs per ftlb
MB - 8.29 lbs per ftlb

HUGE advantage MB CLS55. Sorry.

I'd love to see the torque curve.

Hard for me to believe the torque comes on as low an rpm as the 55Kompressor's too. Small motors don't make low end torque like that without forced induction like that from a SC.

Yes I know it's turbocharged ... which usually means some turbolag too and definitely not the kind of torque you induce from a supercharger.

At any rate ... I'm not saying it's not a fast car.

I'm saying the CLS driver was weak ... from what I could see.

JustPete

That's what I'm talking about!

JustPete

Brisk335

I dont understand, what is there about being a weak driver? Its a AT tranny, he put his foot down and he went, in second gear there no ESP intervention or launching, he wasnt gaining or pulling.
There didnt seem to be any ESP intervention from his launch at all, a small chirp and he was gripping!?
Would just like to hear your view on this, since i thought we bought got off pretty good for our cars power, and overall was a GREAT race.



On Jb3 1.3(newest version which has alot more power) on a high boost map on 93 octane which i run, i can make as much as 370WHP by 3k rpm.
Here is a dyno comparison of Jb3 1.2 vs 1.3, but you can see what kinda power/tq the 1.3 is making,

This member made 400 ft lb to the wheels by 2,800 rpms.
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - View Single Post - DYNO results: 1.22 vs 1.3 beta


It is what it is, and i have run a couple fast cars, i know this might shock you, a 335i hung and was about to beat a cls55 but it almost happened. I pull on M5's, i thought the result here were expected, at least for me anyways.

It was just for fun and the driver of the CLS55 was a kool guy and good sport...

Thericker

You have ZERO clue as to where BMW 335i TQ/HP band lives or proper TT Turbo applications for that matter, talk about living in a bubble. Open your eyes & close your mouth/keyboard. You're mistakenly comparing the high revving N/A M3 power band for I-6 TT 335i

335i TQ band comes in even sooner than your precious SC'er, as well as stays in peak tq band longer. IE can come in @ 2000-5500+RPM's

The 55 Kompressor peak TQ arrives @ 2500-5000+ You're in need of serious remedial TT/Supercharger info...

turbotom1

haha, thought my post would irk you, like yours irked us.

Just ordered my MODs and once installed in a couple of weeks, I will be looking forward to see how effective they were before hitting the track.

Blackedout335i

Turbotom, after all that talk ,you sh*t ur pants and are now not going to come and do any runs...............(i don't want to hear any BS either)...........I am just dissapointed

TTMotorsports

In good time.

I for one have built quite a few 135/335/535's and they can be extremely powerful cars with the right mods. The JB3 is in a class by itself for the power levels that are found with the right mapping.

Now if only BMW can keep these cars from eating themselves up(stock or modded).

MOUTHS SHUT..........CARS RUN............WINNER GLOATS!

Friendly racing on the streets.........JUST STUPID!

Take it to E-town on Wednesday nights. $28 FOR 3 RUNS.

jikjak

the 335s are great cars and can be quite fast when modded right. ive raced my friend's 335 that had a bunch of mods. i have seen him beat an ISF and M3. ive raced him a few times as well. the first few times we were very close but i found that it was due to a cooling pump problem. after getting that fixed it made a big difference.

i wish we could have a go at it but i guess we obviously live too far away. im betting that your 335 is much faster than the one my friend had. there are quite a few highly modded 335s locally and ill try to get them to come out next time.

anyways there is no need for anyone to get all worked up. anything can happen in a race, especially on the streets. sometimes people can take losing too personally, its really not a big deal to lose! either way its just a short race and u cant win them all. as car enthusiasts i feel that we do this to have some fun and to see how different cars measure up to each other. i find that to be very interesting, also losing is a good thing, thats what motivates me to do more modding, which causes me to have even more fun with my car.

turbotom1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackedout335i

Turbotom, after all that talk ,you sh*t ur pants and are now not going to come and do any runs...............(i don't want to hear any BS either)...........I am just dissapointed

hahaha, Kyle you just made my night

juicee63

are you folks suggestng now that the CLS 55 is faster than the CLS 63???

bassn_07

Is it?

juicee63

should be door to door. I just wonder why the stock CLS 63 does not wanna do runs vs. a CLS 55 and a 335 jb3?

As noted previously those little turbo's could have a seizure

Igor180

My friend has a 09 CLS63 with 20's and we ran it up against a JB3 335i sedan, auto, a few weeks ago. The 335 had intakes, JB3, and straight exhaust from the cats. 1 passanger in the 63, and just the driver in the 335... the bmw instantly jumped on the 63 which started a little late, and put like 2 cars on it up until about 60-70 and the 63 started passsing it, by like 130 the 63 had a bus length on the bmw.

Video will be up soon.

Full Throttle

We all realize you are all excited about your little 335I but please calm down. You almost beat a 4100lb luxury sedan in your little (slow) twin turbo coupe.