lined up at a light with a 2004 S4...and he bit
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correct me if im wrong but I thought the B6 S4 came out in 2003/2002.5....
http://www.fast-autos.net/audi/03audis4.html
http://www.fast-autos.net/audi/03audis4.html
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Originally Posted by BenzoAMGpower
correct me if im wrong but I thought the B6 S4 came out in 2003/2002.5....
http://www.fast-autos.net/audi/03audis4.html
http://www.fast-autos.net/audi/03audis4.html
However 2005.5 the got facelifted with B7 S4 (current model)... the one with big center front grill..
I know quite a bit about S4 as I was considering it a while back. And I test drove brand new 2004 and 2005.5 model as well.
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Originally Posted by genechien
what exactly is a torque convertor and does power breaking cause any damage to the car even if you do keep it under 5 secs?
The Torque Convertor is basically like the clutch of the autos.....it locks up once a desired speed is reached. When you brake boost a car it starts to heat up, that is why if you lay on it for more then 5 seconds you could possible damage the drum and bend the fins inside the TC.
Now does anyone offer a Aftermarket/Higher Stall for the c32?
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I've run with S4s at Audi on-track events at Virginia Int'l Raceway. Purely stock, the V8s have similar HP to our C32s, but on the track, they are slower due to extra weight. There are not a lot of HP-adding upgrades you can do to the 4.2V8, so it's never going to be much of a threat.
The stock 2.7 liter twin turbo motor on the older S4 was only 250HP stock, but easiliy modified to 350+HP. They're also lighter than the V8 model.
So, the only S4 to fear is a modified, B4 S4.
The stock 2.7 liter twin turbo motor on the older S4 was only 250HP stock, but easiliy modified to 350+HP. They're also lighter than the V8 model.
So, the only S4 to fear is a modified, B4 S4.
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In any circumsatances the Automatic S4s are extremely slower compared to the manual ones.
The manual revs to 7200 rpm redline, the auto cuts off at 6800, and being an auto with torque converter and not the sportiest transmissions out there (tiptronic) they are about 0.6 or 0.8 seconds slower to 60 mph compared to the manual s4. I think they tested the s4 at like 5 seconds with manual tranny, and 5.6 or 5.8 with tiptronic. So AMG must always take the tiptronic. Manual depends on the driver, but still with equal drivers c32 or c55 should edge out the s4 after 60 mph.
The manual revs to 7200 rpm redline, the auto cuts off at 6800, and being an auto with torque converter and not the sportiest transmissions out there (tiptronic) they are about 0.6 or 0.8 seconds slower to 60 mph compared to the manual s4. I think they tested the s4 at like 5 seconds with manual tranny, and 5.6 or 5.8 with tiptronic. So AMG must always take the tiptronic. Manual depends on the driver, but still with equal drivers c32 or c55 should edge out the s4 after 60 mph.
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If you look at instrumented tests from Road & Track and Car & Driver, the manual transmission B6 S4 has always been consistently slower than the C32/C55 (in direct comparision tests).
It's slower to 60mph and slower to the quarter mile. The S4 is simply heavier and underpowered relative to the C32/C55. The only scenario where the S4 will have an advantage is in the wet.
It's slower to 60mph and slower to the quarter mile. The S4 is simply heavier and underpowered relative to the C32/C55. The only scenario where the S4 will have an advantage is in the wet.
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Originally Posted by Fifth Ring
I've run with S4s at Audi on-track events at Virginia Int'l Raceway. Purely stock, the V8s have similar HP to our C32s, but on the track, they are slower due to extra weight. There are not a lot of HP-adding upgrades you can do to the 4.2V8, so it's never going to be much of a threat.
The stock 2.7 liter twin turbo motor on the older S4 was only 250HP stock, but easiliy modified to 350+HP. They're also lighter than the V8 model.
So, the only S4 to fear is a modified, B4 S4.
The stock 2.7 liter twin turbo motor on the older S4 was only 250HP stock, but easiliy modified to 350+HP. They're also lighter than the V8 model.
So, the only S4 to fear is a modified, B4 S4.
and does Benzo post here anymore??
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Nice!! 
I just test drove an '06 S4 today (with a 6 speed auto) 
... I was dissapointed with the transmission as it did not shift at the 7000RPM redline, but overall good smooth shifts. Pulling power was not to bad but not too exciting.
I just test drove an '06 S4 today (with a 6 speed auto) ... I was dissapointed with the transmission as it did not shift at the 7000RPM redline, but overall good smooth shifts. Pulling power was not to bad but not too exciting.
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Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie
If you look at instrumented tests from Road & Track and Car & Driver, the manual transmission B6 S4 has always been consistently slower than the C32/C55 (in direct comparision tests).
It's slower to 60mph and slower to the quarter mile. The S4 is simply heavier and underpowered relative to the C32/C55. The only scenario where the S4 will have an advantage is in the wet.
It's slower to 60mph and slower to the quarter mile. The S4 is simply heavier and underpowered relative to the C32/C55. The only scenario where the S4 will have an advantage is in the wet.
I wouldn't take on a C32 or C55 in the dry in a straightline and expect to win. They're quicker than even their impressive on-paper stats suggest.
Someone made a good point about the S4 being slightly peaky at low revs for a V8. It's cos it's fairly high output for a NA V8, which is why torque is 302lb rather than c.330. Same story with the RS4 which is 317lb despite its 414brake, but I wouldn't recommend racing that off the lights. Of course, it's costs a fair bit more too.
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when top gear test the S4 against the M3...the track were damp/wet. I have that episode saved ...just need to figure out what was the date of that episode.
any high revving engine will produce more HP than torque. their torque curve is pretty consistant with their hp curve. low revving V8 like the now old 5.4 liter AMG unit that's used in the C55/SLK55/CLK55 produces more torque than HP. I think this is pretty much true for all engines.
the only thing S4 loses on is the weight.
for Auto S4 you'll need to put the gear in the manual mode for it to shift into the redline.
any high revving engine will produce more HP than torque. their torque curve is pretty consistant with their hp curve. low revving V8 like the now old 5.4 liter AMG unit that's used in the C55/SLK55/CLK55 produces more torque than HP. I think this is pretty much true for all engines.
the only thing S4 loses on is the weight.
for Auto S4 you'll need to put the gear in the manual mode for it to shift into the redline.
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I've run with S4s at Audi on-track events at Virginia Int'l Raceway. Purely stock, the V8s have similar HP to our C32s, but on the track, they are slower due to extra weight. There are not a lot of HP-adding upgrades you can do to the 4.2V8, so it's never going to be much of a threat.
The stock 2.7 liter twin turbo motor on the older S4 was only 250HP stock, but easiliy modified to 350+HP. They're also lighter than the V8 model.
So, the only S4 to fear is a modified, B4 S4.
The stock 2.7 liter twin turbo motor on the older S4 was only 250HP stock, but easiliy modified to 350+HP. They're also lighter than the V8 model.
So, the only S4 to fear is a modified, B4 S4.
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So on my way home from the hangout I stop and a light and found myself next to a red 2004^ Audi S4. The 2002 and up models started comming with a V8 and kept the same AWD platform...not to be reckoned with from a dig.
From the first light we lined up and he looked over and asked me "are you ready?"... i reply "anytime when you are, hey wait is that thing AWD"... he smiles and grins!!! Light turns green and low and behold, my RWD C32 holeshot the AWD S4 by 1/2 a car and I kept on pullin and pullin.
At the next light, he tells me "dammmnnn that thing moves". We line up again and he tells me lets go again. This time i hear him powerbraking nasty (holding both the brake and gas at the same time to load the launch, very affective on AWD automatic cars with lots of low end torque, say from a V8). So I brake boost and load up the torque converter a bit. Light turns green and low and behold I get an even better launch and holeshot him by 1 car this time and kept on pulling.
Great way to end the night!! It goes to show how somebody whos learned their car in and out can make a difference. I cant wait for winter cool weather to roll around.
From the first light we lined up and he looked over and asked me "are you ready?"... i reply "anytime when you are, hey wait is that thing AWD"... he smiles and grins!!! Light turns green and low and behold, my RWD C32 holeshot the AWD S4 by 1/2 a car and I kept on pullin and pullin.
At the next light, he tells me "dammmnnn that thing moves". We line up again and he tells me lets go again. This time i hear him powerbraking nasty (holding both the brake and gas at the same time to load the launch, very affective on AWD automatic cars with lots of low end torque, say from a V8). So I brake boost and load up the torque converter a bit. Light turns green and low and behold I get an even better launch and holeshot him by 1 car this time and kept on pulling.
Great way to end the night!! It goes to show how somebody whos learned their car in and out can make a difference. I cant wait for winter cool weather to roll around.
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you've got the model numbers wrong there. the b5 is the monster s4, and the b6 is the current v8. i've owned 2 of the b5's and although they were monsters- i would NEVER buy another one. problem after problem after problem. big things, little things, simple things, complex things. the only reason i got the second one was because it was the 2002.5 which was supposedlly a huge improvement from the pre '02's. NOPE, same probs except it cost more for parts.
I had a 2000 A6 2.7T which has the S4 drivetrain. I sold it in 2005 after losing all confidence in it's ability to stay in one piece. Turbo plumbing, coolant plumbing, transmission, control arms... Keeping in rolling was a $500/month habit! Once you roll up your sleeves and see how it all gets put together, it become pretty clear why it keeps breaking! Rube Goldberg engineering.
Maybe it's just a matter of time, but the C32 seems like a tank in comparison.
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I just bought a 2000 S4 for my winter-beater and I'm floored by the tuning potential and low-cost (compared to my C32) and awesome performance in the snow with Hakkapalita RSis - like I'm in a rally 
I currently have MTM chip and neuspeed exhaust (stage II) I'm putting in an RS4 clutch and AWE aluminum flywheel and down-pipes in a week or so. K04s this spring - I'm thinking it will be my track car after getting a taste of what driving a performance-stick is like. Seriously, it costs like nothing to mod this car. It's not even close to the same level of car as my C32 - interior is not as nice, uncomfortable driver's footwell, no head-room, not as fast, not even in the same category as far as seats, etc...it's going to smash the C32 in a line when I go stage III. 
Moderate thread-jack there, sorry.
I currently have MTM chip and neuspeed exhaust (stage II) I'm putting in an RS4 clutch and AWE aluminum flywheel and down-pipes in a week or so. K04s this spring - I'm thinking it will be my track car after getting a taste of what driving a performance-stick is like. Seriously, it costs like nothing to mod this car. It's not even close to the same level of car as my C32 - interior is not as nice, uncomfortable driver's footwell, no head-room, not as fast, not even in the same category as far as seats, etc...it's going to smash the C32 in a line when I go stage III. Moderate thread-jack there, sorry.
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hehe, wait till **** starts breaking on it. that car will COST you, and eventually drive you crazy. but fun while it works. i'd compare the reliability of the b5 s4 to that of my 94 rx7.
