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Old 08-18-2005, 02:39 AM
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lined up at a light with a 2004 S4...and he bit

So on my way home from the hangout I stop and a light and found myself next to a red 2004^ Audi S4. The 2002 and up models started comming with a V8 and kept the same AWD platform...not to be reckoned with from a dig.

From the first light we lined up and he looked over and asked me "are you ready?"... i reply "anytime when you are, hey wait is that thing AWD"... he smiles and grins!!! Light turns green and low and behold, my RWD C32 holeshot the AWD S4 by 1/2 a car and I kept on pullin and pullin.

At the next light, he tells me "dammmnnn that thing moves". We line up again and he tells me lets go again. This time i hear him powerbraking nasty (holding both the brake and gas at the same time to load the launch, very affective on AWD automatic cars with lots of low end torque, say from a V8). So I brake boost and load up the torque converter a bit. Light turns green and low and behold I get an even better launch and holeshot him by 1 car this time and kept on pulling.

Great way to end the night!! It goes to show how somebody whos learned their car in and out can make a difference. I cant wait for winter cool weather to roll around.
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Originally Posted by BenzoAMGpower
So on my way home from the hangout I stop and a light and found myself next to a red 2004^ Audi S4. The 2002 and up models started comming with a V8 and kept the same AWD platform...not to be reckoned with from a dig.

From the first light we lined up and he looked over and asked me "are you ready?"... i reply "anytime when you are, hey wait is that thing AWD"... he smiles and grins!!! Light turns green and low and behold, my RWD C32 holeshot the AWD S4 by 1/2 a car and I kept on pullin and pullin.

At the next light, he tells me "dammmnnn that thing moves". We line up again and he tells me lets go again. This time i hear him powerbraking nasty (holding both the brake and gas at the same time to load the launch, very affective on AWD automatic cars with lots of low end torque, say from a V8). So I brake boost and load up the torque converter a bit. Light turns green and low and behold I get an even better launch and holeshot him by 1 car this time and kept on pulling.

Great way to end the night!! It goes to show how somebody whos learned their car in and out can make a difference. I cant wait for winter cool weather to roll around.
Good story, make sure you don't brake boost longer then 5 secs or else there goes the Torque Convertor!!! Does anyone offer an aftermarket Stall for the c32?

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Nice "Write-Up" and way to go
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02 and o3 S4's had the bi-turbo not the V8.

You should be able to take him anyway.(with a good launch)

What mods do you have on your car?
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Sounds like the S4 was an automatic,is that even possible?
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
Sounds like the S4 was an automatic,is that even possible?
Yes. A regular 5-speed slushbox with the name "Tiptronic" (and possibly some software, not sure) licensed from Porsche. The tip S4s came with nice paddles on the wheel for up/down shifting as well. Drives really nice, but nowhere near as fun as the very slick-shifting 6-speed manual.

Bit of trivia: the Tiptronic was optional, but avoided the gas guzzler tax that went with the manual, so cars with either drivetrain were essentially the same asking price.

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Originally Posted by MCOUPIN
02 and o3 S4's had the bi-turbo not the V8.

You should be able to take him anyway.(with a good launch)

What mods do you have on your car?
The only Turbo was the 6 not the 8. The only V8 turbo from them so far was the RS6, which would have pulled hard on a C32. Just from screwing around, I know that the C32 (stock) is much faster than the S4. I think part of it is the lack of low end torque -- for some reason it feels like the car does have a turbo since it doesn't really start to move until about 3-4k.

Just do the numbers. The C32 stock has 9hp on the S4 and is 3500lbs versus 3800lbs. The results shouldn't be a surprise.

FWIW: The Cab has about another 200lbs of weight. I raced my friend from about a 10mph roll (getting on the expressway). He was driving my C32. The C32 pulled about 5 cars on me to 80. If that's not a beating, I don't know what is... :p I do like the AMG speedshift transmission much better. It seems to be a lot faster and more brutal when changing gears, but the Audi paddle shifters are so cool.

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Originally Posted by BenzoAMGpower
So on my way home from the hangout I stop and a light and found myself next to a red 2004^ Audi S4. The 2002 and up models started comming with a V8 and kept the same AWD platform...not to be reckoned with from a dig.

From the first light we lined up and he looked over and asked me "are you ready?"... i reply "anytime when you are, hey wait is that thing AWD"... he smiles and grins!!! Light turns green and low and behold, my RWD C32 holeshot the AWD S4 by 1/2 a car and I kept on pullin and pullin.

At the next light, he tells me "dammmnnn that thing moves". We line up again and he tells me lets go again. This time i hear him powerbraking nasty (holding both the brake and gas at the same time to load the launch, very affective on AWD automatic cars with lots of low end torque, say from a V8). So I brake boost and load up the torque converter a bit. Light turns green and low and behold I get an even better launch and holeshot him by 1 car this time and kept on pulling.

Great way to end the night!! It goes to show how somebody whos learned their car in and out can make a difference. I cant wait for winter cool weather to roll around.
LOVE IT! :v
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Originally Posted by naadp
The only Turbo was the 6 not the 8. The only V8 turbo from them so far was the RS6, which would have pulled hard on a C32. Just from screwing around, I know that the C32 (stock) is much faster than the S4. I think part of it is the lack of low end torque -- for some reason it feels like the car does have a turbo since it doesn't really start to move until about 3-4k.

Just do the numbers. The C32 stock has 9hp on the S4 and is 3500lbs versus 3800lbs. The results shouldn't be a surprise.

FWIW: The Cab has about another 200lbs of weight. I raced my friend from about a 10mph roll (getting on the expressway). He was driving my C32. The C32 pulled about 5 cars on me to 80. If that's not a beating, I don't know what is... :p I do like the AMG speedshift transmission much better. It seems to be a lot faster and more brutal when changing gears, but the paddle shifters are so cool.
Correct, I was just saying that the 2002 and 2003 were not V8's but the bi-turbo V6.
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Sorry, I read it again. Anyone want to go for a ride on the short bus with me? :p
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He powerbraked on an AWD?? what an idiot..leave the tranny at the door would ya..
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actually 2002.5 S4 started comming with the V8!! Im just happy at the fact that i holeshot the S4.
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Originally Posted by BenzoAMGpower
actually 2002.5 S4 started comming with the V8!! Im just happy at the fact that i holeshot the S4.

Not to drive this into the ground but I thought that atleast in the US, the V8 S4 started as an 04 model?
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hey benzo.. i see your c32 is renntech... now correct me if im wrong... but an 04 s4 should not even have a chance against your c32 even if it was stock right... just wondering because i am in the market of either a s4 or c32...and i am leaning strongly towards a c32 because of the cheap prices right now...but i heard that the c32 is right up there with the m3 stock which would leave the s4 far behind..oh and yes the s4 just came out with its first v8 in 04"
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Good story, make sure you don't brake boost longer then 5 secs or else there goes the Torque Convertor!!! Does anyone offer an aftermarket Stall for the c32?

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what exactly is a torque convertor and does power breaking cause any damage to the car even if you do keep it under 5 secs?
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Originally Posted by d wig
hey benzo.. i see your c32 is renntech... now correct me if im wrong... but an 04 s4 should not even have a chance against your c32 even if it was stock right... just wondering because i am in the market of either a s4 or c32...and i am leaning strongly towards a c32 because of the cheap prices right now...but i heard that the c32 is right up there with the m3 stock which would leave the s4 far behind..oh and yes the s4 just came out with its first v8 in 04"
i dont think your getting the point... in the long run, power for power i know I ***** the S4... but as far as comming out of a traffic light an AWD automatic car that brake boosts is always going to launch hard... i just saw it as a great accomplishment for me to outlaunch an AWD V8 powered S4 on pavement...seeing that im RWD and on street tires!!!
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ok... well good kill none the less... by the way your car is sick looking.. hoping to get one very soon... just not 04..
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an AWD automatic car that brake boosts is always going to launch hard...
Not as hard as a manual six speed S4 would!
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Not as hard as a manual six speed S4 would!
yea but you can powerbrake and auto AWD, launch, and not have to worry about revs climbing so fast you hit rev limiter be4 going into 2nd!!
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yea but you can powerbrake and auto AWD, launch, and not have to worry about revs climbing so fast you hit rev limiter be4 going into 2nd!!
Nope! You need to raise the revs high enuff so that you can get a descent launch! This is why you would install a TQ Converter with a higher stall speed!That's why the auto tranny in a stck S4 will never allow the S4 to launch out the hole like a manual 6speed S4.Stck TQ converter has to go. An auto S4 will never evr evr evr run out the hole with a six spd manual S4.

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Yes. A regular 5-speed slushbox with the name "Tiptronic" (and possibly some software, not sure) licensed from Porsche. The tip S4s came with nice paddles on the wheel for up/down shifting as well. Drives really nice, but nowhere near as fun as the very slick-shifting 6-speed manual.

Bit of trivia: the Tiptronic was optional, but avoided the gas guzzler tax that went with the manual, so cars with either drivetrain were essentially the same asking price.

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autos are 6speeds too.


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