Anyone surprised when you tell 'em "it's a V8"?
10-06-2005, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
So what happens when the C55 (M113 4.3,5.0,5.5L)gets supercharged? 
Now do it! 
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10-06-2005, 09:44 AM
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C55 AMG, 135i, 911 GT3, GLE43 AMG
Originally Posted by ash-c32
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Go get your c55 supercharged- im comparing stock with stock, my c32 will kick a c55 on the road
Go get your c55 supercharged- im comparing stock with stock, my c32 will kick a c55 on the road
hehe...stock C32 blowing away a stock C55? Nice joke!! If you're not joking, I'm concerned you have signs of a delusional mind!!
10-06-2005, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ash-c32
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Go get your c55 supercharged- im comparing stock with stock, my c32 will kick a c55 on the road
Go get your c55 supercharged- im comparing stock with stock, my c32 will kick a c55 on the road
10-07-2005, 02:32 AM
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I sense you n/a boys are worried, anyone got the 30-70 times for both cars?
Superchargers rule and you know it...
Superchargers rule and you know it...
10-07-2005, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ash-c32
I sense you n/a boys are worried, anyone got the 30-70 times for both cars?
Superchargers rule and you know it...
Superchargers rule and you know it...
10-07-2005, 06:06 AM
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996 C4, previously owned 996 c2, c32 amg, 350z, R33 GTR, R34 GTR
Autocar C32 1/4 mile 13.4 107
30-50 1.5
50-70 2.4
Car and Driver C55 1/4 mile 13.3 108
30-50 2.5
50-70 3.2
I know the c55 will be faster outright but the c32 will kick it in gear on the road.
I drove the new M5 and it felt gutless below 5000 - it was very quick when you wound it up though but seemed to get caught out low down.
Still would like one though (c55)
30-50 1.5
50-70 2.4
Car and Driver C55 1/4 mile 13.3 108
30-50 2.5
50-70 3.2
I know the c55 will be faster outright but the c32 will kick it in gear on the road.
I drove the new M5 and it felt gutless below 5000 - it was very quick when you wound it up though but seemed to get caught out low down.
Still would like one though (c55)
10-10-2005, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankW
you are speaking of the new C55's V8. The old C55's V8 uses the w210 V8 which has the same hp as the s/c V6 only with more torque.
From 2k1 up ,the N/A 5.5L motors have higher compression pistons.11.0:1 vs 10.5:1. The S/C M113 5.5L V8 9.0:1 compression.
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10-10-2005, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ash-c32
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Go get your c55 supercharged- im comparing stock with stock,
Go get your c55 supercharged- im comparing stock with stock,
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10-10-2005, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
All of the MB/AMG V8's from 1998 to present ,S/C,NA are M113 motors. From 2k1 up ,the N/A 5.5L motors have higher compression pistons.11.0:1 vs 10.5:1. The S/C M113 5.5L V8 9.0:1 compression.
From 2k1 up ,the N/A 5.5L motors have higher compression pistons.11.0:1 vs 10.5:1. The S/C M113 5.5L V8 9.0:1 compression.
10-10-2005, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankW
but you know what I mean...they're still different in hp/tq rating
All of the v8's are basically the same,with some perhaps tuned better than others(A/F).
Originally Posted by ash-c32
I still think the s/c v6 is a better engine than the v8 in the c55 - the only thing that can exceed the low - mid range grunt from my c32 is an e55, not the c55.
I wonder if he realized that MB/AMG has Supercharged the same 24valve M113 5.5L V8 and got more than 400hp crank.
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10-12-2005, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
Don't look at the advertised #'s so much because if you put the 98-2000 cars on the Dyno and compare them to the 2k-2k5 cars you will see all of the results will come out similar or very very close 1-5 whp difference.some of the older cars may even come out higher and vice versa. Another reason why I don't look at the hp #'s by MB/AMG is because when you put the new E55 on the dyno rated at 463 crank,the whp is exactly the same as the 493 hp cars as posted in many many threads in the forum. All of the v8's are basically the same,with some perhaps tuned better than others(A/F).
The V6 is basically the same motor ,less two cylinders but don't quote me on that. I'm just wondering why this poster wants to compare a S/C V6 C32 to a normally aspirated M113 v8 and make claims as to the V6 being the better motor. I wonder if he realized that MB/AMG has Supercharged the same 24valve M113 5.5L V8 and got more than 400hp crank.
All of the v8's are basically the same,with some perhaps tuned better than others(A/F). The V6 is basically the same motor ,less two cylinders but don't quote me on that. I'm just wondering why this poster wants to compare a S/C V6 C32 to a normally aspirated M113 v8 and make claims as to the V6 being the better motor.
I wonder if he realized that MB/AMG has Supercharged the same 24valve M113 5.5L V8 and got more than 400hp crank.
10-12-2005, 07:34 AM
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the simple fact is that the c32 will out accelerate the c55 below 100, modifying the c55 to supercharge it is irrelevant. I`m sure that s/charging the v8 is a very good idea I would love to have a c55 with 500 hp.
10-12-2005, 12:19 PM
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C55 AMG, 135i, 911 GT3, GLE43 AMG
Originally Posted by ash-c32
the simple fact is that the c32 will out accelerate the c55 below 100, modifying the c55 to supercharge it is irrelevant. I`m sure that s/charging the v8 is a very good idea I would love to have a c55 with 500 hp.
I think the C32 and C55 are pretty even, with a slight edge going to the C55 in outright acceleration. Handling wise, the C55 probably has a advantage over the C32 (looking at the g levels and track times at the "ring".) Because of that, it also has a harsher ride than the C32.
Edit: found the Car and Driver test times for North American spec cars:
C55/C32
0-60: 4.7/5.2
1/4 mile: 13.3/13.6
5-60: 4.9/5.8
skidpad: 0.86g/0.81g
Lap times for Nordschleife
C55/C32
8.22/8.37
Lap times for Hockenheim
C55/C32
1.18,6/1.20,6
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10-13-2005, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ash-c32
the simple fact is that the c32 will out accelerate the c55 below 100, modifying the c55 to supercharge it is irrelevant. I`m sure that s/charging the v8 is a very good idea I would love to have a c55 with 500 hp.
I'd love to hear this. 
10-13-2005, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
So what factors according to you ,make the V6 a better motor? I'd love to hear this.
I'd love to hear this.
10-13-2005, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
So what factors according to you ,make the V6 a better motor? I'd love to hear this.
I'd love to hear this.
10-14-2005, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ash-c32
and just because an engine has more cylinders doesnt make it better
Would it hurt you to let you know that it's basically the same motor minus two cylinders, and based on your responses you have no kind of technical knowledge about these motors or perhaps any motor whatsoever. Are those two responses the best you can come up with?
Take the supercharger off the V6 and see how much instant acceleration you have compared to the 5.5L V8.
10-15-2005, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
Would it hurt you to let you know that it's basically the same motor minus two cylinders, and based on your responses you have no kind of technical knowledge about these motors or perhaps any motor whatsoever. Are those two responses the best you can come up with?
Take the supercharger off the V6 and see how much instant acceleration you have compared to the 5.5L V8.
10-16-2005, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ash-c32
oh dear I seem to have upset the baby
Now Leave the crack alone and learn something about your engine MOM!!
10-17-2005, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
You sure did Mother Dear!!! Now Leave the crack alone and learn something about your engine MOM!!
Now Leave the crack alone and learn something about your engine MOM!!
10-17-2005, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ash-c32
Dont mess with the c32 BOY you will get spanked
Come up with something intelligent next time NOOB and stop wasting people's time!
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10-17-2005, 03:46 PM
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'05 C55 AMG
Originally Posted by ash-c32
Autocar C32 1/4 mile 13.4 107
30-50 1.5
50-70 2.4
Car and Driver C55 1/4 mile 13.3 108
30-50 2.5
50-70 3.2
I know the c55 will be faster outright but the c32 will kick it in gear on the road.
I drove the new M5 and it felt gutless below 5000 - it was very quick when you wound it up though but seemed to get caught out low down.
Still would like one though (c55)
30-50 1.5
50-70 2.4
Car and Driver C55 1/4 mile 13.3 108
30-50 2.5
50-70 3.2
I know the c55 will be faster outright but the c32 will kick it in gear on the road.
I drove the new M5 and it felt gutless below 5000 - it was very quick when you wound it up though but seemed to get caught out low down.
Still would like one though (c55)
it's funny that you quote numbers from two different magazines, autocar for the c32 and car&driver for the c55, to get the result that you wish would happen.
10-18-2005, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by genechien
it's funny that you quote numbers from two different magazines, autocar for the c32 and car&driver for the c55, to get the result that you wish would happen.I dont wish anything - if you have any data yourself please feel free to provide it
