Need Advice on Adding More Power to HPS SC
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Originally Posted by Vadim-SoCal
What on earth are talking about??????????
This thread is about FALSE claims by HPS, in case you were not paying attention.
This thread is about FALSE claims by HPS, in case you were not paying attention.
No need to slap down HPS further
the problems to date are clear to all but fools. 
I am glad to see that progress is being made and I hope the tuning issues are sorted very soon.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Please don't put 100+ octane gas and play fair everyone.
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Originally Posted by Vadim-SoCal
All of the Kleemann installs that were done at evosport put down between 420 and 400 SAE RWHP on 55s. I can personally attest to it.
Also...Can you tell me why Dragon's AMG dyno chart was using a STD correction factor? I asked him and he didn't know the answer. What would the rwhp be if he used SAE?
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Has HPS ever approached you about consulting for them yet?
Lol.......i highly doubt it ever going to happen even if Vadim pay HPS !!
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Can you share with us how you prevented the downshift?
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Originally Posted by Josh K
Unless you're having detonation issues or running an ECU that's been programmed to advance timing to accommodate race gas, 100+ octane won't make any difference. Wait.....I suppose with the tuning problems some have been having they might actually benefit from it LOL....scratch what I said...91 people! ;0)
I've heard Kleemann people are using 100 octane for dyno. Some are even use it for everyday drive (JAME55.......
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Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
I've heard Kleemann people are using 100 octane for dyno. Some are even use it for everyday drive (JAME55....... ).
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
I dynoed at 431 rwhp on 91 octane
That's awesome numbers !! AMG car dynoed at 396, which is really good numbers when compared to your car with "S7".
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Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
I've heard Kleemann people are using 100 octane for dyno. Some are even use it for everyday drive (JAME55....... ).
). I personally don't see anything wrong with running 100+oct. Just taking advantage of my custom ECU. 
Originally Posted by Josh K
"with the tuning problems some have been having" they might actually benefit from it LOL
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Hey Linh! Did you hear what Josh said? I personally don't see anything wrong with running 100+oct. Just taking advantage of my custom ECU. Translation = Some (cough...linh...cough) HPS owners! LOL
I personally don't see anything wrong with running 100+oct. Just taking advantage of my custom ECU. Translation = Some (cough...linh...cough) HPS owners! LOL James, i know and agreed with Josh. I also personally experienced with 100 octane gas on my SLk 230 with pulley. I mentioned your name to show that i know at least one person with Kleemann kit that are running on 100 octane for normal use. I know there is benefit to it because of the custom ECU tuned but It make me wonder with all the Kleemann past dyno charts posted, were those numbers dyno with 91 or 100 octane? I'm sure they're all dyno at 100 octane just for "show".
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh K
"with the tuning problems some have been having" they might actually benefit from it LOL
Translation = Some (cough...linh...cough) HPS owners! LOL
Originally Posted by Josh K
"with the tuning problems some have been having" they might actually benefit from it LOL
Translation = Some (cough...linh...cough) HPS owners! LOL
Sorry, buddy but HPS haven't get to my car yet. I'll will be the second one the on the ECU tuning.
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Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
That's awesome numbers !! AMG car dynoed at 396, which is really good numbers when compared to your car with "S7".
It's like pulling for the underdog!!! Can it be done?
A blower that is almost half the cost yet match up with the elite Twin-Screw for power and reliability? Inquiring MB enthusiast minds want to know.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
We're nowhere near our goal. I have to find how far to the edge I can take this MP112 without blowing the motor! At 8lbs and under it should keep up with the Twin-Screws if everything is set-up just right.
It's like pulling for the underdog!!! Can it be done? A blower that is almost half the cost yet match up with the elite Twin-Screw for power and reliability? Inquiring MB enthusiast minds want to know.
It's like pulling for the underdog!!! Can it be done?
A blower that is almost half the cost yet match up with the elite Twin-Screw for power and reliability? Inquiring MB enthusiast minds want to know.It can be done but not with stock compression. At 8 psi on any AMG engine, alot of thing need to red-design again. Like the intercooler...etc.
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Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
James, i know and agreed with Josh. I also personally experienced with 100 octane gas on my SLk 230 with pulley. I mentioned your name to show that i know at least one person with Kleemann kit that are running on 100 octane for normal use. I know there is benefit to it because of the custom ECU tuned but It make me wonder with all the Kleemann past dyno charts posted, were those numbers dyno with 91 or 100 octane? I'm sure they're all dyno at 100 octane just for "show".
Don't hate!
Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
Sorry, buddy but HPS haven't get to my car yet. I'll will be the second one the on the ECU tuning.
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DragonAMG sent this to me and I'm sure he doesn't mind sharing his dyno chart. This is what I am striving for. The numbers are impressive and AFR looks nice. Should I also use STD correction factor for my charts as well?
I am still trying to get my chart from MechTech but will post as soon as I get it. You will be able to see the difference between Dragon and my chart because my power curve starts at 4000rpm while his shown here starts at 2700rpm. Roots blowers should kick power at around 2100rpm.
Does anyone know how to convert a PDF formatted file to JPG, GIF, BMP?
I am still trying to get my chart from MechTech but will post as soon as I get it. You will be able to see the difference between Dragon and my chart because my power curve starts at 4000rpm while his shown here starts at 2700rpm. Roots blowers should kick power at around 2100rpm.
Does anyone know how to convert a PDF formatted file to JPG, GIF, BMP?
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
DragonAMG sent this to me and I'm sure he doesn't mind sharing his dyno chart. This is what I am striving for. The numbers are impressive and AFR looks nice. Should I also use STD correction factor for my charts as well?
I am still trying to get my chart from MechTech but will post as soon as I get it. You will be able to see the difference between Dragon and my chart because my power curve starts at 4000rpm while his shown here starts at 2700rpm. Roots blowers should kick power at around 2100rpm.
Does anyone know how to convert a PDF formatted file to JPG, GIF, BMP?
I am still trying to get my chart from MechTech but will post as soon as I get it. You will be able to see the difference between Dragon and my chart because my power curve starts at 4000rpm while his shown here starts at 2700rpm. Roots blowers should kick power at around 2100rpm.
Does anyone know how to convert a PDF formatted file to JPG, GIF, BMP?
BTW --- I no longer have my car and have to reminisce. DAMN I MISS MY CAR!!! I think I made a very stupid descision to sell it.
I don't know what the hell I was thinking. 
I'm probably going to say "the hell with the porsche" and get the SLK55/63 and Kleemannize that bad boy. I wonder what Kleemann has up their sleeves for the 63 engines.
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DAMN I MISS MY CAR!!! I think I made a very stupid descision to sell it. I don't know what the hell I was thinking.
I don't know what the hell I was thinking. 
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Get the SLK55 and get it kleemanized or renntech etc. Since you've used Kleeman I"m sure you will probably go that route. GET THE 030 package!
SLK should be significantly faster than your C55 was.
I was about to buy a porsche 997c2S but ended up getting the SLK55. While I never thought I would buy a convertible, I have to say I love it now.
I have 2 kids but you have to spoil yourself once in a while and I have other cars for family events.
Unless you plan on taking this car to a track (not 1/4mile) I really don't see the benefit of the porsche's handling over the Slk. The 7 speed tranny is wonderful and makes up for being an auto in my mind. In my opinion the SLK55 is the loudest sounding and most like a sports car of any of the mercedes with the exception of the SLR.
SLK should be significantly faster than your C55 was.
I was about to buy a porsche 997c2S but ended up getting the SLK55. While I never thought I would buy a convertible, I have to say I love it now.
I have 2 kids but you have to spoil yourself once in a while and I have other cars for family events.
Unless you plan on taking this car to a track (not 1/4mile) I really don't see the benefit of the porsche's handling over the Slk. The 7 speed tranny is wonderful and makes up for being an auto in my mind. In my opinion the SLK55 is the loudest sounding and most like a sports car of any of the mercedes with the exception of the SLR.
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Originally Posted by Dan ****
Look at this Lorinser / Vortech setup that I found on ebay installed in a 2002 CL55.
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SLK should be significantly faster than your C55 was.
If you're talking about the 6.3 motor then you would have to compare it with the new C63 (extremely limited). Once they develop an SC for this 4-valve bad boy I'm going to sell my 06 C55 and get either the 07 or 08 C63.
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no I"m talking about current cars ... the C55 and the SLK55 ... I'm not interested in talking about cars that aren't available.
Just looking at the stats of all the roadtests from mags as well as the timeslips we have seen, stock to stock the slk55 is faster. I believe the SLK is also about 200lbs lighter than the C55.
Another note is that the SLK55 has the new 7 speed tranny the current C55 does not.
Whats up with you "wheres your proof" crap ... I swear you been on this thread way too long. What you don't know how to look up car mag times for cars? I haven't been one of the people that are slamming you or HPS so don't be giving me attitude. You seem to have a knack for pissing people off.
These are different cars for different needs. This is NOT a comparison. DragonAMG is looking at getting a porsche and the SLK seems to be a possible alternative for him.
Just looking at the stats of all the roadtests from mags as well as the timeslips we have seen, stock to stock the slk55 is faster. I believe the SLK is also about 200lbs lighter than the C55.
Another note is that the SLK55 has the new 7 speed tranny the current C55 does not.
Whats up with you "wheres your proof" crap ... I swear you been on this thread way too long. What you don't know how to look up car mag times for cars? I haven't been one of the people that are slamming you or HPS so don't be giving me attitude. You seem to have a knack for pissing people off.
These are different cars for different needs. This is NOT a comparison. DragonAMG is looking at getting a porsche and the SLK seems to be a possible alternative for him.
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Lorinser made that? wow....it's a far cry from this:
