Need Advice on Adding More Power to HPS SC
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Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
Oh really........you dare to race AMGSC? 
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Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
Oh really........you dare to race AMGSC?
AMGSC car now works and is safe, thanks to much sweat and tears. I'm glad is car is making good power he deserves it for all he had to go through.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
Sounds mean. The GenII must be a different SC because I didn't hear the whine on Robert's car.
The GenII must be a different SC because I didn't hear the whine on Robert's car.After having the supercharger for over 10k miles, I really don't even hear it that much. I have really learned to love it.
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
I will race you! Why do you have to get others to race me? Why don't I get my buddies 800whp Z06 to race your bother's uncle's cousin's former roomates car.
AMGSC car now works and is safe, thanks to much sweat and tears. I'm glad is car is making good power he deserves it for all he had to go through.
AMGSC car now works and is safe, thanks to much sweat and tears. I'm glad is car is making good power he deserves it for all he had to go through.
I think you intentionally did the burnouts but the traction was'nt that great after you got going. According to Brandon (SuperC55) he is "buddies" with SMG32 (installed and tested Quaife on C55) and can have the Quaife's installed at a Mercedes Dealer at a fraction of the cost of what a tuner shop would charge. I am planning to go that route. If you join in we might get an even better price. Quaife America retails the Part at $1795 but
wholesale tuners and dealers get it much cheaper.
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
I will race you! Why do you have to get others to race me? Why don't I get my buddies 800whp Z06 to race your bother's uncle's cousin's former roomates car.
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Dude, if my car is ready, i would race you and hand you an 0-2 record.
But for now, AMGSC's car will do and both car weight almost the same.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Ling,
Next week at the Rose Bowl, I'll let you drive the car for a few miles on the freeway to get a feel for the new power. Jesse is finishing with the final tuning on my car after the rain subsides (two days of road tuning). This is custom tuning beyond anything one can buy off-the-shelf.
All the C55 HPS owners have GOT TO THANK ME for setting the bar higher and higher as this "Enhanced" system will be available in all future kits. My butt dyno honestly "feels" that this car is making over 440rwhp right now with 8+lbs of boost with this cold weather and the 50lb Bosch injectors. I'm accelerating so fast from 20mph to 100mph that the hairs on the back of my neck are standing up.
By swapping to colder spark plugs (stock Bosch-IFR6D10 per my dealer based on my VIN#) and going to FR4's and getting the torque converter adjusted I should get another 50rwhp because the split second stutter when accelerating is probably due to detonation caused by extreme boost in cold weather and 91 Octane gas.
So far I have not paid a dime out of my pocket. I know I've been inconvenienced but I think future customers will not be because this kit will be perfected by then.
Next week at the Rose Bowl, I'll let you drive the car for a few miles on the freeway to get a feel for the new power. Jesse is finishing with the final tuning on my car after the rain subsides (two days of road tuning). This is custom tuning beyond anything one can buy off-the-shelf.
All the C55 HPS owners have GOT TO THANK ME for setting the bar higher and higher as this "Enhanced" system will be available in all future kits. My butt dyno honestly "feels" that this car is making over 440rwhp right now with 8+lbs of boost with this cold weather and the 50lb Bosch injectors. I'm accelerating so fast from 20mph to 100mph that the hairs on the back of my neck are standing up.
By swapping to colder spark plugs (stock Bosch-IFR6D10 per my dealer based on my VIN#) and going to FR4's and getting the torque converter adjusted I should get another 50rwhp because the split second stutter when accelerating is probably due to detonation caused by extreme boost in cold weather and 91 Octane gas.
So far I have not paid a dime out of my pocket. I know I've been inconvenienced but I think future customers will not be because this kit will be perfected by then.
. I'm glad to hear that your car is finally running the way it should. Robert, I appreciate the offer of letting me drive your car but I don't think I'd want to buy a SC kit for my car at this very moment.
Stepping back into my car after I drive yours will be torture. Then I'd have to think about it all the way home when I floor it and my car doesn't go anywhere. 
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
Robert, I appreciate the offer of letting me drive your car but I don't think I'd want to buy a SC kit for my car at this very moment. Stepping back into my car after I drive yours will be torture. Then I'd have to think about it all the way home when I floor it and my car doesn't go anywhere.
Stepping back into my car after I drive yours will be torture. Then I'd have to think about it all the way home when I floor it and my car doesn't go anywhere.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
I understand. There are always risks in heavily modifying a brand new car like mine and yours. Even more so if you go with a new company. Plus the mods won't do a thing for resale value. I always felt my car felt pretty fast when it was stock so I don't think it would be as big a letdown as you might imagine.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
I understand. There are always risks in heavily modifying a brand new car like mine and yours. Even more so if you go with a new company.
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Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
Oh really........you dare to race AMGSC?
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Originally Posted by JR1
I will......... I already offered the challenge to VDOC and he backed down. I have a proven run on my dyno of 407 rwhp out of my car, at 4.3 litres. More than I can say for any HPS charged 5.5 litre motor. Hell Lynh I 'll race you and give you 2 and the fly and still hand you your *** in a drag.
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Originally Posted by JR1
I will......... I already offered the challenge to VDOC and he backed down. I have a proven run on my dyno of 407 rwhp out of my car, at 4.3 litres. More than I can say for any HPS charged 5.5 litre motor. Hell Lynh I 'll race you and give you 2 and the fly and still hand you your *** in a drag.
He's been saying he's going to get the gen II for a year now, I was just over @ Benzworld and read 1 of his posts dated early 2005 where he says "I'm getting my gen II next month"?? 
What "Pic' N' Save" lay away plan is he on
probably like his Rent To Own home furnishings plan from the Salvation Army lol....Back to the car JR1--- what are you runing as far as boost etc.. to get that 4.3 to 407rwhp?????????????And what were your rwto #'s?????
That's freakin' amazing
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It has to run more boost than the 5.5L because it runs lower compression!The 5.0 is a great motor,5.5l even better.You figure for you 4.3 to 5.5L=80 more hp and almost 100 ft lbs of Tq more compared to the 5.0L motor.Now That's a swap!however,good luck with your project but I would contact Norm(MOTO) for a 5.5l motor.he's there in cali!But then again,I got my 5.5L motor for a steal!And yes it's a legit motor no pun intended!
Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
That's alot of wrk and dough for only 22ft lbs of Tq more than the AMG C43 4.3L motor.I think you'll only notice minimal difference for the $$(4.3 to 5.0).Be patient and look and wait for a 5.5L motor like a couple of us have.You'll notice a world of a difference and you won't regret it!
Ahh Your facts are slightly off, S430 motor has 275 HP 295 TO S500 has 302 HP 339 TO that's 44 more torque & 27 HP and a difference from 0-60 of S430-6.9 & S500-6.1...
Allready talked to Jim, & Bill both say they can run more boost than 5.4's + new gen II tweeks there expecting the 500 motors to make 380-390 rwhp Bill said they did some partial ecu tuning only to a CLS500 w/gen II and got 365 rwhp w/out more boost or bigger injecters...So in summation the 500 is a great idea/platform and will increase my hp dramaticly....
Even your C43 motor only had 302 torque What are you talking about that would make it 37 ft lbs more??
I'll be getting the performance of the 5.4 w/blower @ a fraction of the price
Ahh Your facts are slightly off, S430 motor has 275 HP 295 TO S500 has 302 HP 339 TO that's 44 more torque & 27 HP and a difference from 0-60 of S430-6.9 & S500-6.1...
Allready talked to Jim, & Bill both say they can run more boost than 5.4's + new gen II tweeks there expecting the 500 motors to make 380-390 rwhp Bill said they did some partial ecu tuning only to a CLS500 w/gen II and got 365 rwhp w/out more boost or bigger injecters...So in summation the 500 is a great idea/platform and will increase my hp dramaticly....
Even your C43 motor only had 302 torque What are you talking about that would make it 37 ft lbs more??
I'll be getting the performance of the 5.4 w/blower @ a fraction of the price
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What part don't you get? I'll be getting the same amount of HP & TO as the 5.4 motors..
With my exhaust cat delete/+racing cats and new HPS tweeks I'll be right @ 380-400 rwhp
I appreciate your concerns but I already bought the engine, I didn't say "Thinking about buying a 500 motor?"
Spending just $3,000 bucks to achieve the same power as a 5.4 w/hps blower---Seems like a no brainer to me
If I was runing N/A like you, your points would be valid but as I said above 5.0 w/blower = a totally different ANIMAL
With my exhaust cat delete/+racing cats and new HPS tweeks I'll be right @ 380-400 rwhp
I appreciate your concerns but I already bought the engine, I didn't say "Thinking about buying a 500 motor?"
Spending just $3,000 bucks to achieve the same power as a 5.4 w/hps blower---Seems like a no brainer to me
If I was runing N/A like you, your points would be valid but as I said above 5.0 w/blower = a totally different ANIMAL
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I just fell outta my chair laughing That is my next mod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is my next mod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I see "TheRicker" is gone. R.I.P.
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I knew you would like that mod
I see "TheRicker" is gone. R.I.P.
BTW, you are a horrible phone caller backer.
I see "TheRicker" is gone. R.I.P.
BTW, you are a horrible phone caller backer.
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I just found out from my MB dealer that the pulley kit is putting too much stress on the tranny. I told him that the car put down only 396rwhp so how can that be. Vadim said that a C55 tranny can take 600rwhp. Well the service manager told me they dyno'd it with a much higher number than 396rwhp but would'nt give me the number and advised me to do something immediately to relieve the stress/overload. Looks like I may have to go back to the standard pulley tomorrow. Crap!!! He was cool about not filing a warranty claim because if he did I would be SOL because MBUSA would have blacklisted me.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
I just found out from my MB dealer that the pulley kit is putting too much stress on the tranny. I told him that the car put down only 396rwhp so how can that be. Vadim said that a C55 tranny can take 600rwhp. Well the service manager told me they dyno'd it with a much higher number than 396rwhp but would'nt give me the number and advised me to do something immediately to relieve the stress/overload. Looks like I may have to go back to the standard pulley tomorrow. Crap!!! He was cool about not filing a warranty claim because if he did I would be SOL because MBUSA would have blacklisted me.
W/this dyno info what dealership are you using? I've never heard of a Mercedes dealership w/dyno machine...
Please get this car dynoed somewhere to confirm, or deny, this info asap...
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
I just found out from my MB dealer that the pulley kit is putting too much stress on the tranny. I told him that the car put down only 396rwhp so how can that be. Vadim said that a C55 tranny can take 600rwhp. Well the service manager told me they dyno'd it with a much higher number than 396rwhp but would'nt give me the number and advised me to do something immediately to relieve the stress/overload. Looks like I may have to go back to the standard pulley tomorrow. Crap!!! He was cool about not filing a warranty claim because if he did I would be SOL because MBUSA would have blacklisted me.
Good luck
