Need Advice on Adding More Power to HPS SC
04-27-2006, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by xyzpl
I don't think coming up with another dyno C55 is hard to do... I am sure Evosport has done a few C55's. They prob have all those dynos saved in their computer. But from reading your posts, you prob would want to be there and make sure it was the real deal. Or not, I feel that you just about had it, and I think it is a smart move for your. Being a SC Alum as well, I can't believe that you will be taken for a longer ride than you already have. You are a much better man than I am... I would of called it quits months ago...
Well, I will give Mario a call tomorrow to see when he can meet up, can't wait to ride in his car. And best wishes to your on going battle!
I got your back! Trojans stay together! ( as long as you are not changing your mind about HPS again
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Well, I will give Mario a call tomorrow to see when he can meet up, can't wait to ride in his car. And best wishes to your on going battle!
I got your back! Trojans stay together! ( as long as you are not changing your mind about HPS again
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04-27-2006, 03:29 AM
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humm... thats funny, from reading this thread I would of thought all those Kleeman guys would JUMP at the chance to dyno and put down HPS...
I guess they were all busy...
I guess they were all busy...
04-27-2006, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by xyzpl
humm... thats funny, from reading this thread I would of thought all those Kleeman guys would JUMP at the chance to dyno and put down HPS...
I guess they were all busy...
I guess they were all busy...
BTW. it was could talking to you Robert, "stay strong"
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04-27-2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by xyzpl
I would of thought all those Kleeman guys would JUMP at the chance to dyno and put down HPS...
Originally Posted by E55Cent
I think we are all waiting for JAM55 to dyno his Kleemann S8 ride, but never any luck.
04-27-2006, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Why would i put down HPS when this thread has already proved it's not advertising the numbers it's supposed to be? No need to kick someone down when they're already hurt.
Just need to finish up a few more things before it hits the dyno then i'll post it.
Just need to finish up a few more things before it hits the dyno then i'll post it.
04-27-2006, 12:38 PM
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I just wish I had 1 more dyno besides AMGDragon's C55 to convince me to just GO for the Kleemann without waiting for any settlement from HPS. If I see another C55 making over 425whp with either a Kleeman or Renntech then HPS cannot continue to claim that NONE of the other brands of SC's make the advertised power without increasing boost to 8-10 psi.[/QUOTE]
MY psi is only at 7 and I am getting 408 -
the Kleemann car (dragon's) had the catalytic converters removed, hence the extra power...
Renntech wouldnt do it.
BennyZ
MY psi is only at 7 and I am getting 408 -
the Kleemann car (dragon's) had the catalytic converters removed, hence the extra power...
Renntech wouldnt do it.
BennyZ
04-27-2006, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BennyZ
MY psi is only at 7 and I am getting 408 -
the Kleemann car (dragon's) had the catalytic converters removed, hence the extra power...
Renntech wouldnt do it.
BennyZ
Hey Bennyz!!! What's up? Car still running strong? Did you read about my new E55 K2? The E55 are no joke. I'm putting down 480 rwhp and 550 rwtq. The E55 feels like it pulls so much harder than the C55K
04-27-2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
The cats were not removed, only replaced with high flow cats. I had the complete Kleemann exhaust. In addition, I had the Kleemann headers.
Hey Bennyz!!! What's up? Car still running strong? Did you read about my new E55 K2? The E55 are no joke. I'm putting down 480 rwhp and 550 rwtq. The E55 feels like it pulls so much harder than the C55K
Hey Bennyz!!! What's up? Car still running strong? Did you read about my new E55 K2? The E55 are no joke. I'm putting down 480 rwhp and 550 rwtq. The E55 feels like it pulls so much harder than the C55K
Whats going on man? I was a way fro mthe baords for a while on business and I could'nt belive my eyes when I saw that you sold the car. I was a bit disappointed - no showdown.
And since you bought an E55 there will never be a showdown. My new 997 GT3 is due to arrive in September. (White w/ black wheels - off course)
Yeah, E55 are strong beasts... just a tad big for my taste. Plus My C55 is as fast as I want car to be or I would kill myself. I just dont hold back! It is full throtle all the time. (especially living in LA)
My C is running sweet! and with the nos I am almost at 450 rwhp - on a C.
Can you say no traction!
My bad, high flow cats - it still help out and Renntech did not want to touch the cats...
Enjoy the sweet brand new ride and stay out of trouble...
Have you taken the E to the track yet?
04-27-2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
The cats were not removed, only replaced with high flow cats. I had the complete Kleemann exhaust. In addition, I had the Kleemann headers.
Hey Bennyz!!! What's up? Car still running strong? Did you read about my new E55 K2? The E55 are no joke. I'm putting down 480 rwhp and 550 rwtq. The E55 feels like it pulls so much harder than the C55K
Hey Bennyz!!! What's up? Car still running strong? Did you read about my new E55 K2? The E55 are no joke. I'm putting down 480 rwhp and 550 rwtq. The E55 feels like it pulls so much harder than the C55K
With the lack of a pre-cat you can advance timing a WHOLE bunch and get some very serious power increases with Kleemann headers. Trouble is the DOT might have something to say about the pre-cat not being there.
If the EPA realized what was going on Kleemann would be very SOL with their idea of making race headers and selling them for known street use!
But yes Kleemann cars do make insane power figure and the lack of pre-cat helps a WHOLE bunch. The removal of the pre-cat is what RENNtech wont do.
These modern cars have so many cat's its crazy.
04-27-2006, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
Well which cats are we talking about here. The kleeman headers remove the pre-cat and they replace the main cats under the car with highflow cats. This is what I was told over the phone when talking to Brandon.
With the lack of a pre-cat you can advance timing a WHOLE bunch and get some very serious power increases with Kleemann headers. Trouble is the DOT might have something to say about the pre-cat not being there.
If the EPA realized what was going on Kleemann would be very SOL with their idea of making race headers and selling them for known street use!
But yes Kleemann cars do make insane power figure and the lack of pre-cat helps a WHOLE bunch. The removal of the pre-cat is what RENNtech wont do.
These modern cars have so many cat's its crazy.
With the lack of a pre-cat you can advance timing a WHOLE bunch and get some very serious power increases with Kleemann headers. Trouble is the DOT might have something to say about the pre-cat not being there.
If the EPA realized what was going on Kleemann would be very SOL with their idea of making race headers and selling them for known street use!
But yes Kleemann cars do make insane power figure and the lack of pre-cat helps a WHOLE bunch. The removal of the pre-cat is what RENNtech wont do.
These modern cars have so many cat's its crazy.
04-27-2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
Well which cats are we talking about here. The kleeman headers remove the pre-cat and they replace the main cats under the car with highflow cats. This is what I was told over the phone when talking to Brandon.
With the lack of a pre-cat you can advance timing a WHOLE bunch and get some very serious power increases with Kleemann headers. Trouble is the DOT might have something to say about the pre-cat not being there.
If the EPA realized what was going on Kleemann would be very SOL with their idea of making race headers and selling them for known street use!
But yes Kleemann cars do make insane power figure and the lack of pre-cat helps a WHOLE bunch. The removal of the pre-cat is what RENNtech wont do.
These modern cars have so many cat's its crazy.
With the lack of a pre-cat you can advance timing a WHOLE bunch and get some very serious power increases with Kleemann headers. Trouble is the DOT might have something to say about the pre-cat not being there.
If the EPA realized what was going on Kleemann would be very SOL with their idea of making race headers and selling them for known street use!
But yes Kleemann cars do make insane power figure and the lack of pre-cat helps a WHOLE bunch. The removal of the pre-cat is what RENNtech wont do.
These modern cars have so many cat's its crazy.
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Originally Posted by BennyZ
Hey Josh,
Whats going on man? I was a way fro mthe baords for a while on business and I could'nt belive my eyes when I saw that you sold the car. I was a bit disappointed - no showdown.
And since you bought an E55 there will never be a showdown. My new 997 GT3 is due to arrive in September. (White w/ black wheels - off course)
Yeah, E55 are strong beasts... just a tad big for my taste. Plus My C55 is as fast as I want car to be or I would kill myself. I just dont hold back! It is full throtle all the time. (especially living in LA)
My C is running sweet! and with the nos I am almost at 450 rwhp - on a C.
Can you say no traction!
My bad, high flow cats - it still help out and Renntech did not want to touch the cats...
Enjoy the sweet brand new ride and stay out of trouble...
Have you taken the E to the track yet?
Whats going on man? I was a way fro mthe baords for a while on business and I could'nt belive my eyes when I saw that you sold the car. I was a bit disappointed - no showdown.
And since you bought an E55 there will never be a showdown. My new 997 GT3 is due to arrive in September. (White w/ black wheels - off course)
Yeah, E55 are strong beasts... just a tad big for my taste. Plus My C55 is as fast as I want car to be or I would kill myself. I just dont hold back! It is full throtle all the time. (especially living in LA)
My C is running sweet! and with the nos I am almost at 450 rwhp - on a C.
Can you say no traction!
My bad, high flow cats - it still help out and Renntech did not want to touch the cats...
Enjoy the sweet brand new ride and stay out of trouble...
Have you taken the E to the track yet?
NOS and s/c is wild. I'm thinking on a NOS setup on my E55.
I too wanted to have the showdown... would have been a lot of fun. Oh well... HAHA.
No track yet. Hoping to go sometime in May. It should run 11.50's-11.60's @ 122-124 mph. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
Very nice... the 997 GT3 is going to be sweet!!! I'm jealous!
NOS and s/c is wild. I'm thinking on a NOS setup on my E55.
I too wanted to have the showdown... would have been a lot of fun. Oh well... HAHA.
No track yet. Hoping to go sometime in May. It should run 11.50's-11.60's @ 122-124 mph. We'll see.
NOS and s/c is wild. I'm thinking on a NOS setup on my E55.
I too wanted to have the showdown... would have been a lot of fun. Oh well... HAHA.
No track yet. Hoping to go sometime in May. It should run 11.50's-11.60's @ 122-124 mph. We'll see.
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Warning To All Hps Gen II Owners!
I was just informed by a CLS500 owner his car with a Gen II had a complete engine shutdown while traveling 70mph on the freeway last week.
According to this person his steering also locked as he struggled to get the car off to the right shoulder. Luckily he was not hit from behind. It could easily have been a FATAL event.
When the car was towed to his MB dealer, the foreman and lead technician told him that faulty electrical wiring of the Supercharger was the cause of the malfunction. This person emailed me pictures of the faulty wiring to me and I will try to attach them to this email but they are very high resolution so I don't know if the files will be too big. When I called MT, he told me that this may be caused by the failure of the intercooler pump which in turn caused the fuse to pop in the main computer. The power source of the intercooler pump was apparently wired to the main circuit board!
Now I'm worried sick that this might happen to me so I called Adam and he has not offered any fix for my car!
All HPS customers/owers beware! Call HPS right away and get this wiring problem fixed. It's a LIFE or DEATH matter. I think that they should announce a recall! Adam, This is no joke. You don't want the potential liability.
According to this person his steering also locked as he struggled to get the car off to the right shoulder. Luckily he was not hit from behind. It could easily have been a FATAL event.
When the car was towed to his MB dealer, the foreman and lead technician told him that faulty electrical wiring of the Supercharger was the cause of the malfunction. This person emailed me pictures of the faulty wiring to me and I will try to attach them to this email but they are very high resolution so I don't know if the files will be too big. When I called MT, he told me that this may be caused by the failure of the intercooler pump which in turn caused the fuse to pop in the main computer. The power source of the intercooler pump was apparently wired to the main circuit board!
Now I'm worried sick that this might happen to me so I called Adam and he has not offered any fix for my car!
All HPS customers/owers beware! Call HPS right away and get this wiring problem fixed. It's a LIFE or DEATH matter. I think that they should announce a recall! Adam, This is no joke. You don't want the potential liability.
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Holy Piece of Sh** i bet Mercedes benz will void his warranty.... I had a buddy that was thinking going to HPS and he is a member at benzworld, I showed him this thread and now he wont even touch HPS with a wooden stick.
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wow, I went out of town for a few days and more horror stories? I don't know if I am suprised... kind of like... ya, I can see that happening...
HPS sure need to get a better PR person... among other things I guess...
HPS sure need to get a better PR person... among other things I guess...
05-04-2006, 07:10 PM
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wow, I went out of town for a few days and more horror stories? I don't know if I am suprised... kind of like... ya, I can see that happening...
HPS sure need to get a better PR person... among other things I guess...
HPS sure need to get a better PR person... among other things I guess...
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Wow?? 
Actually, I'm not that surprised anymore by the news of an engine failure on another HPS hack job. It's a shame really that a company like HPS is ruining the Mercedes-Benz brand.
Actually, I'm not that surprised anymore by the news of an engine failure on another HPS hack job. It's a shame really that a company like HPS is ruining the Mercedes-Benz brand.
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Originally Posted by xyzpl
wow, I went out of town for a few days and more horror stories? I don't know if I am suprised... kind of like... ya, I can see that happening...
HPS sure need to get a better PR person... among other things I guess...
HPS sure need to get a better PR person... among other things I guess...
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Wow?? Actually, I'm not that surprised anymore by the news of an engine failure on another HPS hack job. It's a shame really that a company like HPS is ruining the Mercedes-Benz brand.
Actually, I'm not that surprised anymore by the news of an engine failure on another HPS hack job. It's a shame really that a company like HPS is ruining the Mercedes-Benz brand.It really a shames on what has been happening, problems after problems. But the "finale episole" to this whole things haven't been told yet !!!
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Hey, were you still going to take a test drive?
I will definitly give you a call after Tuesday next week!
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
It really a shames on what has been happening, problems after problems. But the "finale episole" to this whole things haven't been told yet !!!
