Need Advice on Adding More Power to HPS SC
What are you doing on this thread since you have NO INTEREST in modding or racing? You are one of those chicken sh*t dudes that are AFRAID to take any risks to mod your car (goes back to dealer in 3 years, must be under 10K miles per year crap) and looking for others to FAIL in order to justify your own cowardice.
Moderator: Can you please ban this guy with the childish harassment? Or I could REALLY put him in HIS place on this public forum.
Last edited by AMGSC; Feb 17, 2007 at 01:42 PM.
What are you doing on this thread since you have NO INTEREST in modding or racing? You are one of those chicken sh*t dudes that are AFRAID to take any risks to mod your car (goes back to dealer in 3 years, must be under 10K miles per year crap) and looking for others to FAIL in order to justify your own cowardice.
Moderator: Can you please ban this guy with the childish harassment? Or I could REALLY put him in HIS place on this public forum.
Pathetic my friend.................. pathetic!
Geez. This thread just gets more entertaining every day. The WWF has nothing on this battle/match/show
Sounds like someone needs his diaper changed.

And please, keep the smack-talk coming. I can't wait for the next episode.
But of course, I always enjoy a little verbal jostle
but don't tell me I'm the one who instigated everything.I still offered to race them both for bragging rights on this forum and some cold ones.
Besides, I forgot that it would have been an illegal contract
that is unenforceable anyway.you need help
You say it's so bad *** as it is, so stop blowin smoke up everyones ***, putting it off, making excuses, waiting for this and that part to be installed and follow through WITH YOUR OWN CHALLENGE!
Either way, it would appear that the reason for being on this thread/forum is to 'discuss' whatever it is you want to do with your car. That includes, but is not limited to, taking/not taking advice (which is fine either way), and importantly, dealing with the backlash when you insult forum members.
20% of ALL posts to the C32/C55 forum are in this thread! That's pretty impressive in light of the fact that we have only come away with one or two pieces of valuable information! I'll still keep on reading it though - I'm still secretly rooting for you and your quest to have an awesome and safe car.
I'm so glad I am in no way associated with USC
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
There's a hell of a difference between being one of those 'chicken sh*t dudes' (i.e. me) who don't take unnecessary risks and somebody who massacres their car.
Either way, it would appear that the reason for being on this thread/forum is to 'discuss' whatever it is you want to do with your car. That includes, but is not limited to, taking/not taking advice (which is fine either way), and importantly, dealing with the backlash when you insult forum members.
20% of ALL posts to the C32/C55 forum are in this thread! That's pretty impressive in light of the fact that we have only come away with one or two pieces of valuable information! I'll still keep on reading it though - I'm still secretly rooting for you and your quest to have an awesome and safe car.

For example, EVERY MOD I put on this car BESIDES the HPS KIT came AFTER I got valuable advice from you guys posting on MBWORLD. Every other mod worked perfectly (K&Ns, 160F-T STAT, Denso and Magnecor, larger BOSCH Injectors & Pump,Methanol Mist, PSS9s, Sprintbooster, etc.. although the jury is still out on HPS and possibly SI.
Soon I will report objectively on the future mods listed below for all who are considering it or who already have them installed. This is a fantastic sight because it gets a TON of traffic so the information is always CURRENT unlike the other MB forums.
I appreciate the fact that some of you are advising me to scrap the kit and frustrated at me for STILL dealing with a company that many regard as UNETHICAL but like I said many times before they have tried to rectify things.
Did you know that HPS paid for 100% of Linh's blown CL55 motor? He dyno'd it together with me at JBA and recorded 302rwhp and 325rwtq. Not bad for a 2001 overhauled engine by Mechtech. Does Kleemann or Renntech warranty your MOTOR? HPS did everything they could to increase my kit's power and tried endlessly to improve the kit such as extensive tuning with Jessie, better injectors, pullies, pump and intercooler at no cost to me and ALL current and future customers so they are not just turning their backs on POST SALE HPS customers and I applaud them for that.
Last edited by AMGSC; Feb 17, 2007 at 05:44 PM.
Just to let you know the MP122 will not help your car ever. The MP112 is plenty big enough to make power for a 5.5liter. The problem is the rest of the HPS kit. IT IS JUNK!!!!!. I run a MP90 on my 5.5l and have 400whp and it has never left me on the side of the road. All I do it change the oil every once in a while.
Robert have you ever looked at the HPS kit off your car and compared it to something that worked? Once you see the difference you will close this thread and then buy your self something that works and not something from HPS.
Good luck
Just to let you know the MP122 will not help your car ever. The MP112 is plenty big enough to make power for a 5.5liter. The problem is the rest of the HPS kit. IT IS JUNK!!!!!. I run a MP90 on my 5.5l and have 400whp and it has never left me on the side of the road. All I do it change the oil every once in a while.
Robert have you ever looked at the HPS kit off your car and compared it to something that worked? Once you see the difference you will close this thread and then buy your self something that works and not something from HPS.
Good luck
I don't get it. You bash HPS yet you are SO PROUD of your HPS KIT.
Anyway, HPS declined to upgrade the blower and it mostly likely would be too costly to do a one-off AND get it Carb-certified as TheRicker pointed out so I'm going to check out HOW much bigger the AUTOROTOR TWIN-SCREW that Kleemann uses versus the MP112 before pulling the trigger and driving up to Colorado Springs.
I don't get it. You bash HPS yet you are SO PROUD of your HPS KIT.
Anyway, HPS declined to upgrade the blower and it mostly likely would be too costly to do a one-off AND get it Carb-certified as TheRicker pointed out so I'm going to check out HOW much bigger the AUTOROTOR TWIN-SCREW that Kleemann uses versus the MP112 before pulling the trigger and driving up to Colorado Springs.

Josh at HOP, fixed the AFR, it was all messed up, Josh put on the FMU and saved the day, and made the kit run safely, & added more power
Last edited by Thericker; Feb 17, 2007 at 06:04 PM.
Heck, the DNC has Howard Dean. I guess that should make me really glad that I am in no way associated with the Democat Party.
Anyway, Would Jim criticize his own "co-designed/developed kit?
According to Adam, the GEN II works great on NON-AMG models and needs no ECU tuning. He has cited numerous 430 and 500 models making at least 120-135rwhp gains with dyno's to prove it.
The problem they are having is trying to get the power out of these AMG configured ECUs which absolutely requires tuning.
I think I'm finally coming around to switching to Kleemann. No hassles no wasted time on a mad science project, etc...Just planning my vacation time to do it. Twin Screw is better than being Triple Screwed I guess.
Last edited by AMGSC; Feb 17, 2007 at 06:14 PM.
Anyway, Would Jim criticize his own "co-designed/developed kit?
According to Adam, the GEN II works great on NON-AMG models and needs no ECU tuning. He has cited numerous 430 and 500 models making at least 120-135rwhp gains with dyno's to prove it.
The problem they are having is trying to get the power out of these AMG configured ECUs which absolutely requires tuning.
I think I'm finally coming around to switching to Kleemann. No hassles no wasted time on a mad science project, etc...Just planning my vacation time to do it. Twin Screw is better than being Screwed I guess.
Also had drivability issues, after install of bucking/stammering if coming out of 3/4 throttle to any hard acceleration then slight back off would cause this, felt very scary at freeway speeds.
This is what happened on my car, your results may vary.
Last edited by Thericker; Feb 17, 2007 at 09:29 PM.
I don't get it. You bash HPS yet you are SO PROUD of your HPS KIT.
Anyway, HPS declined to upgrade the blower and it mostly likely would be too costly to do a one-off AND get it Carb-certified as TheRicker pointed out so I'm going to check out HOW much bigger the AUTOROTOR TWIN-SCREW that Kleemann uses versus the MP112 before pulling the trigger and driving up to Colorado Springs.
Hell, for comparison sake my cars a 98' C43 with 60k and it makes 360whp 370wtrq SAE/STD (which ever reads higher). Starting with 60hp less than you I would think this would raise a brow? Even worse, I have no other performance mods yet including especially, TUNING AND INTERCOOLING. That's right, this simple kit makes more than that one even without an intercooler.....I don't understand bud
Hell, for comparison sake my cars a 98' C43 with 60k and it makes 360whp 370wtrq SAE/STD (which ever reads higher). Starting with 60hp less than you I would think this would raise a brow? Even worse, I have no other performance mods yet including especially, TUNING AND INTERCOOLING. That's right, this simple kit makes more than that one even without an intercooler.....I don't understand bud

I'm definitely moving on to either Kleemann $12K or Renntech $16 kit. I just got to do some research if Renntech is worth the extra $4K. I think the Kleemann uses the AutoRotor brand of Twin Screw while Renntech uses IHI (Japanese company). I've read somewhere that the Autorotor is slightly stronger and more efficient. Can anyone confirm this?
I'm officially selling my UPGRADED kit for $3500. Any takers?
Last edited by AMGSC; Feb 17, 2007 at 06:59 PM.
What are you doing on this thread since you have NO INTEREST in modding or racing? You are one of those chicken sh*t dudes that are AFRAID to take any risks to mod your car (goes back to dealer in 3 years, must be under 10K miles per year crap) and looking for others to FAIL in order to justify your own cowardice.
Moderator: Can you please ban this guy with the childish harassment? Or I could REALLY put him in HIS place on this public forum.
Am I supposed to crap or **** in my pants now?
Mr. Internet Tough Guy. Talk about low EQ
If you care to read the previous posts, I've given you plenty of advices with regards to your crappy situation. As for calling me a kid, I would like to thank you for your compliments. I'll be turning 27 by the end of the year, so I'm by no means "young". Being called a kid really make me feel "young" and "special" again, similar to the time that I got carded for buying Sudafed.
rolf: I'm honoring every single damn class in medical school so far, so don't you worry about me. You should pay more attention to your poor ghetto-rigged C55.
As far as modding my car, if you actually read the whole message, you will find out that I do want to mod my car but there aren't any good tuners around here (the closest one being Ai Design, Tecknik1, and RPM Racing in NYC and some tuners in CT). I don't want to take the risk of not being able to troubleshoot if I ran into a problem. I'm getting a new Targa 4S for next year and that would definitely be taken care of by Eric Badia of RPM North with an EVOMS supercharger. Do you wanna race for Victoria's Secret PINKS?
Go ahead and put me in place, Mr. AMGSC. I'm looking forward to your great comments and stop harassing the moderators. This is an open forum and every one is entitled to his / her own opinion as long as it does not violate the TOU. Last time I checked, I don't think I've violated anything, yet.
We've given you plenty of advice but you always came back with more problems. Don't you see a pattern here? It's your problem, not ours.
Last edited by Kev04C320; Feb 17, 2007 at 07:44 PM.
Anyway, Would Jim criticize his own "co-designed/developed kit?
According to Adam, the GEN II works great on NON-AMG models and needs no ECU tuning. He has cited numerous 430 and 500 models making at least 120-135rwhp gains with dyno's to prove it.
The problem they are having is trying to get the power out of these AMG configured ECUs which absolutely requires tuning.
I think I'm finally coming around to switching to Kleemann. No hassles no wasted time on a mad science project, etc...Just planning my vacation time to do it. Twin Screw is better than being Triple Screwed I guess.
Am I supposed to crap or **** in my pants now?
Mr. Internet Tough Guy. Talk about low EQ
If you care to read the previous posts, I've given you plenty of advices with regards to your crappy situation. As for calling me a kid, I would like to thank you for your compliments. I'll be turning 27 by the end of the year, so I'm by no means "young". Being called a kid really make me feel "young" and "special" again, similar to the time that I got carded for buying Sudafed.
rolf: I'm honoring every single damn class in medical school so far, so don't you worry about me. You should pay more attention to your poor ghetto-rigged C55.
As far as modding my car, if you actually read the whole message, you will find out that I do want to mod my car but there aren't any good tuners around here (the closest one being Ai Design, Tecknik1, and RPM Racing in NYC and some tuners in CT). I don't want to take the risk of not being able to troubleshoot if I ran into a problem. I'm getting a new Targa 4S for next year and that would definitely be taken care of by Eric Badia of RPM North with an EVOMS supercharger. Do you wanna race for Victoria's Secret PINKS?
Go ahead and put me in place, Mr. AMGSC. I'm looking forward to your great comments and stop harassing the moderators. This is an open forum and every one is entitled to his / her own opinion as long as it does not violate the TOU. Last time I checked, I don't think I've violated anything, yet.
We've given you plenty of advice but you always came back with more problems. Don't you see a pattern here? It's your problem, not ours.
Last edited by AMGSC; Feb 17, 2007 at 08:56 PM.
I just feel sorry for your car for having a bad owner and getting hacked. However, you, on the other hand, had made a lot of promises and issued a lot of challenges that you backed out of. Who's more pathetic? You or me?
Enjoy your car in good health and happy new year
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Last edited by Kev04C320; Feb 17, 2007 at 09:07 PM.
Enjoy your car in good health and happy new year
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