My first Kill- C32 beats a modded S4
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Originally Posted by m3_eater
A nice, controlled oversteer drift is what it's all about! Frank, you're missing out.
... and I aim to get the handling sorted on my C32 to allow it.
... and I aim to get the handling sorted on my C32 to allow it.
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Well hopefully I will have a good answer to those new genration RS4. I just took delivery of this, my project has begun... 03 CL55 Engine. God be with me...
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Originally Posted by 360_iti
BBM_S4, V8 S4 4.2 is B6.
What jody raced against was 2001/2002 S4. The generation before yours.
In your case, I wouldn't bet my money racing against you stock vs stock
What jody raced against was 2001/2002 S4. The generation before yours.
In your case, I wouldn't bet my money racing against you stock vs stock
yip i know...the B5 S4 has huge power potential with the mods that are avail afrom guys like MTM and Oetinger.
i wouldnt bet my money on me either vs a stock C32 ha ha :-)
my buddy has a C32 and another has the C55...
if we were racing 100m then id win ha ha...other than that they pass me from about 120km/h and keep going.
4WD off the line is really fun :-)
hold revvs at 6000rpm, drop the clutch and it rockets
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Originally Posted by jody420
Well hopefully I will have a good answer to those new genration RS4. I just took delivery of this, my project has begun... 03 CL55 Engine. God be with me...
oh....my....@#$....
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[QUOTE=BBM_S4]
I think you could probably launch it twice like that before the clutch turns to sand
Originally Posted by 360_iti
BBM_S4, V8 S4 4.2 is B6.
What jody raced against was 2001/2002 S4. The generation before yours.
In your case, I wouldn't bet my money racing against you stock vs stock
QUOTE]
yip i know...the B5 S4 has huge power potential with the mods that are avail afrom guys like MTM and Oetinger.
i wouldnt bet my money on me either vs a stock C32 ha ha :-)
my buddy has a C32 and another has the C55...
if we were racing 100m then id win ha ha...other than that they pass me from about 120km/h and keep going.
4WD off the line is really fun :-)
hold revvs at 6000rpm, drop the clutch and it rockets
What jody raced against was 2001/2002 S4. The generation before yours.
In your case, I wouldn't bet my money racing against you stock vs stock
QUOTE]
yip i know...the B5 S4 has huge power potential with the mods that are avail afrom guys like MTM and Oetinger.
i wouldnt bet my money on me either vs a stock C32 ha ha :-)
my buddy has a C32 and another has the C55...
if we were racing 100m then id win ha ha...other than that they pass me from about 120km/h and keep going.
4WD off the line is really fun :-)
hold revvs at 6000rpm, drop the clutch and it rockets
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[QUOTE=ash-c32]
I think you could probably launch it twice like that before the clutch turns to sand
nope.... i race the S4 almost every thurs night......with buddies like M&M and a few other M3 and CSL and M5 and Scooby owners....
only had one clutch replaced so far in the 58000km i have done :-)
i think they handle the power and hard lanches quite nicely......
but i am getting a new gearbox now though
damaged my third gear synchro racing too much....
but Audi pays for it as it is still in the maintenance plan so i dont care LOL
Originally Posted by BBM_S4
I think you could probably launch it twice like that before the clutch turns to sand
nope.... i race the S4 almost every thurs night......with buddies like M&M and a few other M3 and CSL and M5 and Scooby owners....
only had one clutch replaced so far in the 58000km i have done :-)
i think they handle the power and hard lanches quite nicely......
but i am getting a new gearbox now though
damaged my third gear synchro racing too much....
but Audi pays for it as it is still in the maintenance plan so i dont care LOL
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Originally Posted by FrankW
do a M3 like power dome on your hood when you stuff that monster in there
btw, just noticed it. They cover the intake hole yet left the oil cap open??
btw, just noticed it. They cover the intake hole yet left the oil cap open??
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Originally Posted by jody420
yeah i believed they drained the Oil, don't know otherwise...it's an SL55 engine sorry for the mistake not CL. I have a lot of work to do, A MB tech is goig to do the swap for me, let's see how it turns out, this guy has done a couple of swaps on C43's. This is the first.
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According to the tech we will try it with the C32 tranny first to see how it turns out, it is just for experimentation but my guts tell me it will not work, but he is the tech. I will definitely need the ECU, custom intercooler and other things to start with. The tranny i could get for 1200 in potomac.
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[QUOTE=BBM_S4]
nope.... i race the S4 almost every thurs night......with buddies like M&M and a few other M3 and CSL and M5 and Scooby owners....
only had one clutch replaced so far in the 58000km i have done :-)
i think they handle the power and hard lanches quite nicely......
but i am getting a new gearbox now though
damaged my third gear synchro racing too much....
but Audi pays for it as it is still in the maintenance plan so i dont care LOL
I have friends who think like you, which makes me so glad I bought an auto.
Originally Posted by ash-c32
nope.... i race the S4 almost every thurs night......with buddies like M&M and a few other M3 and CSL and M5 and Scooby owners....
only had one clutch replaced so far in the 58000km i have done :-)
i think they handle the power and hard lanches quite nicely......
but i am getting a new gearbox now though
damaged my third gear synchro racing too much....
but Audi pays for it as it is still in the maintenance plan so i dont care LOL
I have friends who think like you, which makes me so glad I bought an auto.
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i think stock for stock c32 is faster than b5, b6 or b7 s4 on the top end. the v8 is pretty impressive, very refined and smooth, ample power down low, but not the rush on the top end that i expected. i am confident a pullied c32 will beat a modded v8 s4 as well in the straightline. and i think the s4's have great low-end torque when modded. modded b5 s4's can be very very quick, very low et's. for comparable et's though, the modded b5 s4's seem to have lower trap speeds than a pullied c32? on k03's i think people go for so much power you are overboosting the turbos outside of the compressor efficiency ranges. k04'd cars i am interested in, straight rs4 k04 vs pullied c32. the k04 can have so many connotations, there are so many kits...with the proper fueling kit and tuning though, some k04 s4's are much faster than modded c32's are. though that said, c32's haven't been modded all that heavily yet, mainly basic boltons. but k04/k16 or k04/k24 hybrids and dual Garrett's are in another league though.
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Originally Posted by KompressorKev
k04'd cars i am interested in, straight rs4 k04 vs pullied c32. the k04 can have so many connotations, there are so many kits...with the proper fueling kit and tuning though, some k04 s4's are much faster than modded c32's are.
K04 B5 S4 minus fueling vs chipped & pullied C32.
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Originally Posted by 360_iti
I'll certainly give u an update on that this upcoming summer..
K04 B5 S4 minus fueling vs chipped & pullied C32.
K04 B5 S4 minus fueling vs chipped & pullied C32.
jody, your project is gonna be amazing. when u said v8 project, i thought u were gonna put in a w210 e55 motor lol but this is much better!! i'm really excited to see what the c32 will be like with that much power, especially if u mod it to 600hp / 650 trq like some 55's are running!
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you are excited....and i can't sleep. I just can't wait till it is in there. Trust me I will let you guys know after i finish it. How are the pullies doing in your C32? Did you dynoed it yet? A lot of people are saying they get some good power with the pulleys.
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Originally Posted by naadp
Personally, I've never taken either one on a road course... but the C32 wins by at least 5 cars in a straight line to 60, so I'd expect that it'd do better on the track as well.
This was the stupidist comment I have heard from an amg owner.
to 60 the b7 s4 will be even with the c32, especially it being the awd.
In the road course we knwo that the s4 has a bigger advantage compared to the c class amg. Amg cars are not meant to be for the road course, auto kills it in a road course.
See the Top Gear stats if you would like.
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Originally Posted by KompressorKev
i think stock for stock c32 is faster than b5, b6 or b7 s4 on the top end. the v8 is pretty impressive, very refined and smooth, ample power down low, but not the rush on the top end that i expected. i am confident a pullied c32 will beat a modded v8 s4 as well in the straightline. and i think the s4's have great low-end torque when modded. modded b5 s4's can be very very quick, very low et's. for comparable et's though, the modded b5 s4's seem to have lower trap speeds than a pullied c32? on k03's i think people go for so much power you are overboosting the turbos outside of the compressor efficiency ranges. k04'd cars i am interested in, straight rs4 k04 vs pullied c32. the k04 can have so many connotations, there are so many kits...with the proper fueling kit and tuning though, some k04 s4's are much faster than modded c32's are. though that said, c32's haven't been modded all that heavily yet, mainly basic boltons. but k04/k16 or k04/k24 hybrids and dual Garrett's are in another league though.
Modified b5 S4's can be reall quick.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi--S4-Drag-Racing.html
Most of them are sub 12 sec cars. And I have seen some more sub 10 sec b5 s4s, they have been compiling a data a few years back on audiworld forums
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html
Not much of a comparison.
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Originally Posted by zumbalak
Modified b5 S4's can be reall quick.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi--S4-Drag-Racing.html
Most of them are sub 12 sec cars. And I have seen some more sub 10 sec b5 s4s, they have been compiling a data a few years back on audiworld forums
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html
Not much of a comparison.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi--S4-Drag-Racing.html
Most of them are sub 12 sec cars. And I have seen some more sub 10 sec b5 s4s, they have been compiling a data a few years back on audiworld forums
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html
Not much of a comparison.
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Originally Posted by KompressorKev
o definitely modded b5 s4's are beasts in the straight, like the twin gt25 cars or k04 hybrid cars. they are untouchable by c32's, no doubting that. but i would venture to think a basic k04'd car vs. pullied/ecu c32 would be a good match on the top end? i've seen some with similar et's and trap speeds. 9-sec b5 s4's i have not heard about, that is quite an achievement though!
No doubt in the top end basic k04 vs pull/ecu c32 will be a good match, and I do think as speeds increase c32 will pull better than the s4. There is problem with the turbo cars that on their top ends, as the speeds are increasing their acceleration times are decreasing more significantly than NA or SC engines. I have not really seen a k04 s4 racing on top end like 130+mph, but I would think it will not be as fast as a modified c32. I maybe wrong, but seeing how slow the evo and sti get on top end, I would think the end result would be similar for the s4 as well.
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Originally Posted by jody420
you are excited....and i can't sleep. I just can't wait till it is in there. Trust me I will let you guys know after i finish it. How are the pullies doing in your C32? Did you dynoed it yet? A lot of people are saying they get some good power with the pulleys.
