My first Kill- C32 beats a modded S4
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My first Kill- C32 beats a modded S4
Well guys this for sure felt good. It was friday night and i had just finished waxing my car, I am in the hightway (BQE expressway) many of you might not know it but it is a nice strip that connects brooklyn and queens. I am doing like 60 when all of a sudden I see an 2002 or 01 silver S4 pulled right next, he was so obvious he wanted to race me, he was behind me and i guess after he saw the badging it was like a wild horse he just jumped right next to me. This guy had suspension work, muffler and spoiler at least that is what i saw. My car does not have any mods just SL55 splitter and Aerodynamics in the rear and roof spoiler. So he takes up front the car in front of me won't move so i follow him for like about 30 seconds and I am just eating his behind, I shift my car to 3rd gear and i picked up like a rocket. Finally we get to a clear open space where i could finally get next to him and i floored it right through, man it was beautifull all you could hear was my supercharger sucking the air I blew right by Him and left him a good 5 to 6 cars behind. 
, left him crazy, 
lol!
, left him crazy, lol!
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That was a B5 S4. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but even a bone stock C32 would beat B5 S4 with ECU and intercooler. Especially if it was a clutchless S4.
B7 S4 is a whole different story. Anyway, congrats. Mods, please move to general forums/ kill stories.
B7 S4 is a whole different story. Anyway, congrats. Mods, please move to general forums/ kill stories.
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I understand the 2002 and below S4 is not a competitor, I have seen those with upgraded turbos put down way more than a modded C32, I really don't know what he had under the hood, all I know is supposedly he felt he had a chance to blow me away in traffic, and he got a surprise. Sorry for the post in the general forum, i will take it to the kill stories forum next time. 
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it's always nice to have a kill, especially when the other guy started it! As far a competitors, it's not always that easy to tell who is a competitor. A couple weeks ago, I had a '91 or '92 eagle talon (same car as mitsubishi eclipse gsx) right on my *** when i was going 80 km/h .... i pinned it and i couldn't get any space between us all the way up to 170 kmh.
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Originally Posted by 360_iti
That was a B5 S4. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but even a bone stock C32 would beat B5 S4 with ECU and intercooler. Especially if it was a clutchless S4.
B7 S4 is a whole different story. Anyway, congrats. Mods, please move to general forums/ kill stories.
B7 S4 is a whole different story. Anyway, congrats. Mods, please move to general forums/ kill stories.
interesting race there...
however 360iti...im more interested by ur comment....
ive got the V8 S4 4.2 ...
and at sea level this past december i raced a stock C32....
off the line i pulled about 1.5 cars on the C32, but by 140km/h the c32 left me for dead and kept opening up the gap....
and this was at sea level where the NA V8 is at its peak....
have u guys with the C32's had many runs against the V8 S4's there in the US??
would be keen to hear ur experiences...
thanks.
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Originally Posted by BBM_S4
interesting race there...
however 360iti...im more interested by ur comment....
ive got the V8 S4 4.2 ...
and at sea level this past december i raced a stock C32....
off the line i pulled about 1.5 cars on the C32, but by 140km/h the c32 left me for dead and kept opening up the gap....
and this was at sea level where the NA V8 is at its peak....
have u guys with the C32's had many runs against the V8 S4's there in the US??
would be keen to hear ur experiences...
thanks.
B
however 360iti...im more interested by ur comment....
ive got the V8 S4 4.2 ...
and at sea level this past december i raced a stock C32....
off the line i pulled about 1.5 cars on the C32, but by 140km/h the c32 left me for dead and kept opening up the gap....
and this was at sea level where the NA V8 is at its peak....
have u guys with the C32's had many runs against the V8 S4's there in the US??
would be keen to hear ur experiences...
thanks.
B
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Originally Posted by BBM_S4
quick question....
how is the C32 on the track when compared to the S4....
i see a lotta C55 vs S4 on the track tests, but not many C32??
any views here guys??
how is the C32 on the track when compared to the S4....
i see a lotta C55 vs S4 on the track tests, but not many C32??
any views here guys??
a stock US spec C32 understeer like a snow-plow (Euro spec ain't that much better either). It's probably a little slower than the B6-B7 S4 on tracks with lots of turns. stock vs stock of course.
some people here with C32 and some suspension upgrades runs better than M3s, but experience on track also matters.
on surface streets, freeway speed, etc the S4's 4wd doesn't help much.
p.s. just got to say this, but I can finally squeal my tires off the line again!! the intercooler pump problem is finally fixed.
Last edited by FrankW; Feb 22, 2006 at 02:47 AM.
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Originally Posted by FrankW
if the C32 beats the so called modded B5 S4, then the B5 S4 isn't modded enough. Those 2.7 biturbo can be very scary with the right mods.
a stock US spec C32 understeer like a snow-plow (Euro spec ain't that much better either). It's probably a little slower than the B6-B7 S4 on tracks with lots of turns. stock vs stock of course.
some people here with C32 and some suspension upgrades runs better than M3s, but experience on track also matters.
on surface streets, freeway speed, etc the S4's 4wd doesn't help much.
p.s. just got to say this, but I can finally squeal my tires off the line again!! the intercooler pump problem is finally fixed.
a stock US spec C32 understeer like a snow-plow (Euro spec ain't that much better either). It's probably a little slower than the B6-B7 S4 on tracks with lots of turns. stock vs stock of course.
some people here with C32 and some suspension upgrades runs better than M3s, but experience on track also matters.
on surface streets, freeway speed, etc the S4's 4wd doesn't help much.
p.s. just got to say this, but I can finally squeal my tires off the line again!! the intercooler pump problem is finally fixed.
thanks Frank....
UNDERTSEER????
wow .... i would think the C32 would oversteer.....
they r RWD right??
yeah there r some guys here in SA with some nice mods to the kompressor on their C32's and they really fly.....and sound glorious at the same time as well :-)
thanks for the info though...
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Originally Posted by BBM_S4
thanks Frank....
UNDERTSEER????
wow .... i would think the C32 would oversteer.....
they r RWD right??
yeah there r some guys here in SA with some nice mods to the kompressor on their C32's and they really fly.....and sound glorious at the same time as well :-)
thanks for the info though...
UNDERTSEER????
wow .... i would think the C32 would oversteer.....
they r RWD right??
yeah there r some guys here in SA with some nice mods to the kompressor on their C32's and they really fly.....and sound glorious at the same time as well :-)
thanks for the info though...
couple reasons: 1. the supercharger on top of the engine adds weight to the front. 2. the suspension AMG setup is intended to understeer mainly because the spring rate is very stiff. Changing the springs will help this dramatically.
with this car's power you can power-oversteer coming out of a corner, but I'm not that brave because in order to do that you'll have to turn the ESP off.
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Originally Posted by FrankW
yup, the C32 understeer when pushed really hard.
couple reasons: 1. the supercharger on top of the engine adds weight to the front. 2. the suspension AMG setup is intended to understeer mainly because the spring rate is very stiff. Changing the springs will help this dramatically.
with this car's power you can power-oversteer coming out of a corner, but I'm not that brave because in order to do that you'll have to turn the ESP off.
couple reasons: 1. the supercharger on top of the engine adds weight to the front. 2. the suspension AMG setup is intended to understeer mainly because the spring rate is very stiff. Changing the springs will help this dramatically.
with this car's power you can power-oversteer coming out of a corner, but I'm not that brave because in order to do that you'll have to turn the ESP off.
i guess understeer is easier to correct than oversteer....
once i get used to a track, ive found that i get better lap times with my ESP switch off.....
but then again, quattro is a whole lot more forgiving if i make a mistake than a RWD would be.....
thanks Frank...
interesting stuff learnt today
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Originally Posted by BBM_S4
ok i see....
i guess understeer is easier to correct than oversteer....
once i get used to a track, ive found that i get better lap times with my ESP switch off.....
but then again, quattro is a whole lot more forgiving if i make a mistake than a RWD would be.....
thanks Frank...
interesting stuff learnt today
i guess understeer is easier to correct than oversteer....
once i get used to a track, ive found that i get better lap times with my ESP switch off.....
but then again, quattro is a whole lot more forgiving if i make a mistake than a RWD would be.....
thanks Frank...
interesting stuff learnt today
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Originally Posted by FrankW
I think on the track with the audi quattro you can just power through a corner like it's on rail. I drove my friend's B5 S4 auto through the canyon run once. Pretty cool how you can just plant it mid corner and it pulls you through. Not like how I have to watch my throttle on the same run.
yip, quattro gives us the slight advantage in that we can floor it that few split seconds earlier when coming out of a corner and we dont have to watch or control our accelerator pedal.....
but down the straights.....the RWD cars catch us up
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This was going towards the brooklyn bridge under the prominar, right up to the 36st exit or something like that. Have you been there?, there was a lot of traffic but it opened up after we got out of the prominar. it was nice.
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Originally Posted by FrankW
I think on the track with the audi quattro you can just power through a corner like it's on rail. I drove my friend's B5 S4 auto through the canyon run once. Pretty cool how you can just plant it mid corner and it pulls you through. Not like how I have to watch my throttle on the same run.
... and I aim to get the handling sorted on my C32 to allow it.
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Originally Posted by BBM_S4
however 360iti...im more interested by ur comment....
ive got the V8 S4 4.2 ...
ive got the V8 S4 4.2 ...
What jody raced against was 2001/2002 S4. The generation before yours.
In your case, I wouldn't bet my money racing against you stock vs stock
Originally Posted by FrankW
.. if the C32 beats the so called modded B5 S4, then the B5 S4 isn't modded enough...
