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Evosport C32s: Why is the plumbing mounted so high on the washer reservoir?

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Old 04-26-2006, 10:58 PM
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isnt the supercharger on a srt 6 the same on the C32? maybe it will have the same core?
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The Chrysler Crossfire SRT6 has the same engine but different intercooler. It is actually smaller and has different mounting brackets than the C32 AMG intercooler. The Crossfire is based on the old SLK R170 chassis. Therefore, the SLK32/ Crossfire SRT6 intercoolers are smaller and would not be able to bolt onto the C32 AMG chassis. The dealer sent me an SLK32 AMG intercooler by mistake and it wouldn't fit at all along with the other hoses and fittings. Had to get the right one.

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Pshek,

It is the heat exchanger mounted directly below the supercharger that is failing on the C32's - not the intercooler mounted in front of the radiator.

Why would this need to be different on the Chrysler?
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Originally Posted by OZC32AMG
Pshek,

It is the heat exchanger mounted directly below the supercharger that is failing on the C32's - not the intercooler mounted in front of the radiator.

Why would this need to be different on the Chrysler?
Well as a general technical discussion, I always thought that we had FMIC on our cars, but in other threads I was told that that's not an intercooler up there, just a radiator for the intercooler which was located back by the s/c.

Anyone have a simple explanation?
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Infront of the radiator is the cars heat exchanger. The intercooler is located under the supercharger.
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Now I am really confused. Which POS part is it that is leaking. . . the one in front of the radiator or one underneath the supercharger?
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Now I am really confused. Which POS part is it that is leaking. . . the one in front of the radiator or one underneath the supercharger?
The POS under the supercharger is the item which is leaking. The item in the front is an added cooler for the engine coolant and it cools the coolant as it travels to the heat exchanger under the blower. The "after cooler" under the blower is the part which leaks and this is where the coolant (water in your case) gets into the intake runners.

If the front cooler were leaking it would not clog up the charge air since the coolant would just drip onto the belly pan and out the bottom of the car.
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my bad. i got confused between the two. the heat exchanger is under the front bumper and the intercooler is below the supercharger. the slk32 and crossfire srt6 has a smaller heat exchanger because of the smaller chassis. intercooler is the same.

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so what you guys are saying that C32, slk32, and SRT6 use the same intercooler core that is leaking?

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Originally Posted by Trekman
so what you guys are saying that C32, slk32, and SRT6 use the same intercooler core that is leaking?
Same intercooler core. Yes it is the same.

Not a very strong core might i add

This makes C32's look a little less fun on the used market. Pull the manifolds off before you take it home!!!

I am slightly worriend since V8k cars are starting to have the same issues as they get a bit older. Bet my cars start to leak sooner than later.

But I know SMGC32's core started leaking at less than 20k miles I think and finally we caught the issue at 30k miles when the car just would not cool charge air and when the car felt generally weak (intake runners were 80% clogged).

And of course there is no part to superceed the faulty current core. When you have a limited production car they tend to just leave the faulty parts alone and let you keep buying new ones.

Sad but true....
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I have developed a bespoke upgrade system utilizing a new high capacity heat exchanger and after-cooler core that has lowered intake air temps by over 70 degrees, netting 110 to 130 degrees at extended high rpm driving. These are real world numbers taken from a laptop plugged into the OBDII port utilizing Nology's software. No more leaks, and no more heat soak. If anyone is seriously interested in this type of upgrade, PM me.
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hey guys. i finally got the call back from the dealer. my service rep. said that it's not my intercooler. he said it's internal and that i only need to replace my supercharger with some gaskets and stuff.

i asked my rep are you sure if not's the intercooler cause that's where the coolant run's thru and he assured me it wasn't and that the supercharger is making the coolant leak. i don't believe this. theres no way that coolant is running thru the supercharger.

ok guys let me ask is it possible and i might be wrong ???
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Originally Posted by amgstyle
hey guys. i finally got the call back from the dealer. my service rep. said that it's not my intercooler. he said it's internal and that i only need to replace my supercharger with some gaskets and stuff.

i asked my rep are you sure if not's the intercooler cause that's where the coolant run's thru and he assured me it wasn't and that the supercharger is making the coolant leak. i don't believe this. theres no way that coolant is running thru the supercharger.

ok guys let me ask is it possible and i might be wrong ???
your service rep is WRONG! coolant does not run through the supercharger, it runs through the intercooler, which in your case is leaking...the problem will come back if that is all they are going to do...

are they covering this under warranty? i bet if they are, they are just trying to appease you so that they don't really have to fix the problem...
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Originally Posted by amgstyle
hey guys. i finally got the call back from the dealer. my service rep. said that it's not my intercooler. he said it's internal and that i only need to replace my supercharger with some gaskets and stuff.

i asked my rep are you sure if not's the intercooler cause that's where the coolant run's thru and he assured me it wasn't and that the supercharger is making the coolant leak. i don't believe this. theres no way that coolant is running thru the supercharger.

ok guys let me ask is it possible and i might be wrong ???
PM Jon Winter on this forum as he has gone through all this with his C32. He has over 120k miles and has had new intercoolers, new head gaskets, new kompressors... the works.

I am trying to recall what he said BUT I think that he said the blowers can get holes in it but the ozzing goo is not the problem a caused by a hole in the blower.

I would want to see the intercooler core my self to see if it is indeed leaking.

That being said it is NOT unheard of for these cars to need new blowers and or head gaskets.

Good luck and give Jon a message. He will be glad to help you out.
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Originally Posted by amgstyle
hey guys. i decided to take out my intake manifold to exactly see if i'm losing coolant for my intercooler and guess what i'am *****. i took some pics.




I have the same problem as you do intercooler leak,how hard is to replace by myself and what kind of tools i need and probably there are some torqe # 's needed for the bolts .if you can please healp 02/ c-32 black.Thanks.
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Am I seeing a recurring pattern of intercooler failures in cars using non-MBZ (i.e., "green") coolant?
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Yes,

Why do those ports look green inside??
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Am I seeing a recurring pattern of intercooler failures in cars using non-MBZ (i.e., "green") coolant?
Mark SMG down for a stock cooling system haivng had the intercooler fail. He ran whatever coolant mb but in the car yet it still failed. I think water likely makes it happen more quickly but I bet it still will leak with do time with factory fill coolant.
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Vadim,

What kind of water did you put in your windshield reservoir for your cooling? did you put in distilled water or regular water along your redline water wetter...how much redline water wetter did you mix with the water?

Im planning on doing that too..since my car has the IC upgrade along with the Stage I..dont want windshield fluid to eat my intercooler core...

thanks!!
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Vadim,

What kind of water did you put in your windshield reservoir for your cooling? did you put in distilled water or regular water along your redline water wetter...how much redline water wetter did you mix with the water?

Im planning on doing that too..since my car has the IC upgrade along with the Stage I..dont want windshield fluid to eat my intercooler core...

thanks!!
Distilled water...you usually use a whole bottle of water wetter for an entire cooling system, but since you are using it for an isolated system that does not hold as much liquid, then i would probably use half a bottle...would be good to hear how much Vadim is using...
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I use distilled water from any grocery store, with a bottle of Water Wetter.

One could also use antifreeze.
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Originally Posted by smgC32
I have developed a bespoke upgrade system utilizing a new high capacity heat exchanger and after-cooler core that has lowered intake air temps by over 70 degrees, netting 110 to 130 degrees at extended high rpm driving. These are real world numbers taken from a laptop plugged into the OBDII port utilizing Nology's software. No more leaks, and no more heat soak. If anyone is seriously interested in this type of upgrade, PM me.
id like to see some pics
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thanks guys...im gonna order some online then go get a bottle of distilled water..
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suppose you put antifreeze into the reservoir, wouldn't you be spraying the antifreeze to the windscreen?

or do they have seperate reservoir? (ie; one for windscreen spray, and another for intercooler fluid)
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since the Stage I reroutes the windshield washer fluid to the intercooler core, yes you would be spraying antifreeze onto your windscreen.

I just bought redline water wetter today

mixed a bottle of waterwetter with a gallon of distilled water as well as anti-freeze(15% of 1 gallon)

hope its gonna keep cooling levels down a bit =P


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