SiLvaC32

i had done it about 1 year ago.... car is still running great and strong. but... i strongly recommend you to run this setup with a shop that has a dyno. Evosport had work tremedously hard to get my bottles installed... and they have done a GREAT job.

jturkel

haha......no. i backed out. decided i'd wait a little longer. didn't really wanna take this route yet. sorry

Eurocharged Rick

care to give us some more details on your setup?

sales@eurocharged.com

bottles

SiLvaC32

i haave a big stereo system in the back before i got the nitrous setup, so... i had to get 2 smaller bottles in order to cram it in there. basically, i have a switch under my arm-rest and i can activate it when i want to give it a go. A straight shot into the intake, i am already running EVOsport stage 2, with a straight pipe setup. with the 40 shots nitrous, my dyno came around 400rwhp. its been running great, but i am gettin tired of filling these babies up. haha

sales@eurocharged.com

Pictures please!

SiLvaC32

pix of?? the bottles? everything is hidden under the engine bay. you cannot see anything from engine, the most i can show you is my lil-switch in my armrest and my bottles in the back. which, has no real meanings.

Jrocket

Can be done and has been done.No problems.

MRAMG1

Can only tell you what KenneBell and Lhyholm, the manufactuer recomend.
The impellers only have a few thousands clearnace, and now you want to put fuel in there, oh well,Anything can be done, but I know I won't try it.

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Slater126

This sounds awsome! I definitely wouldn't try it, especially given the lack of an engineered system for this car, but it should be very interesting. Take a video of it and post it on You Tube.

Slater126

Only one way to find out right? We've got someone who's willing to do it so we don't have to

Reminds me of the old joke -- What's the most common last word among rednecks?

"Watch this."

Jrocket

Theres more than a few E55's that run nitrous systems.

MRAMG1

Hey Guys:

An easy way to check this out is contact ANY positive displacement blower manufactuer, and the FIRST question they will ask you is " Are you going to run the blower Wet or Dry". They have to know this to set up the impeller clearance. DRY blowers can be set VERY tight, WET can not.

Remember, your physics, or a hydralulic jack, you CAN NOT compress fluids, ie they take up the same amount of space, GAS's are easy to compress.

Fill a pop botlle up all the way with water and sqeeze it, now fill the bottle up with air and squeeze it, get the picture.

Oh well, as I said, I know I WOULD NEVER try it on my Whipple, or C32.

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Zeppelin

Yeah, but none run a wet shot through the blower

Slater126

Don't forget that Nitrous is 50% more dense than air. Picturing this in my mind, what we're going to be doing is cramming a very volatile gas into a unit designed to handle air only and then compressing it between gears of very tight clearance. We'll also be coupling this with some heat from the pressurization process.

Again, should be extremely interesting. I don't think any resulting explosion will be enough to blow a hole in the case or send the fast moving lysholm units out the side but....

sales@eurocharged.com

Remember, nitrous isn't flammable by itself. Even if there was a spark, nothing would happen.

Also, one of our blades is coated, so there is very little metal to metal contact.

MRAMG1

Jerry:

You are right about nitrous, but in theory the rotor blades DON"T ever touch when the impellers are properly timed from the factory. If they did, there would be serious problems

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Slater126

Well, what causes nitrous to explode in the combustion chamber? Pressure, heat and oxygen right? Inside the OP's blower case, we're going to have: 1) the nitrous being compressed via fine gears; 2) oxygen, 3) a whole lot of pressure because of the additional material (pressure the case and gears aren't designed to handle); and, 4) heat (and probably more so than normal due to the addition of the additional material). Is that all enough to combust the nitrous? I'm not an engineer so I don't know. I'm guessing it may be.

sales@eurocharged.com

Ya, I know. I'm just saying that even if they did touch, and a magic spark was created, that nothing would happen.

sales@eurocharged.com

You will also need fuel. There is no fuel running through the S/C. When nitrous is heated, it actually breaks down and releases more oxygen. The extra power in nitrous comes when it is combined with fuel and heated up during the compression stroke. This oxygen can burn more fuel, which creates higher cylinder pressures, which equals more HP.

If there was fuel running through the S/C, then you would have issues.

MRAMG1

RIGHT ON,

provided that it was a DRY shot

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Slater126

Sounds like we have ourselves a dispute. Only one way to resolve it. On one hand, I don't want the guy to get blown to smithereens but on the other, I'm more than a bit curious about this little physics dilemma. I say drill the nozzle right into the top of the blower case and shoot it in there and see what happens. What the hell. Just wear a fire suit!

Jrocket

The cars Im talking about DO run wet kits before the throttle body,meaning it does go through the SC.

c32AMG-DTM

fuel AND nitrous mixed together is the definition of a wet shot though, correct?

Slater126

"Wet nitrous oxide shots have fuel in them. This explains the usage of the word wet. The nitrous oxide is mixed together with fuel and a fogger injects this mixture directly into the throttle body. This provides the extra fuel to balance out the extra oxygen provided by the nitrous oxide, thus keeping the air-fuel mixture stoichiometric or not too lean. However wet nitrous injection kits might cause puddles of fuel to be stuck in the intake manifold, and cause severe backfire conditions."

http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/...us-oxide-work/