ellery

It looks like a Scion TC with a kit and a BMW grill... LOL
It looks good though... just not powerful enough.

skratch77

I think the new 3 series look better than any BMW to date I can't wait to see what the next M will look like.

Its all are opinions but when I saw the new 3 in person it really looked better and grows on me the more I see them out there.

heres a few pics a a bone stock 335 vs an modded m3 with blacked out grile,lips,lowered and wheels.

look how out dated it looks





and thats a regular 3 series just wait till the next M hits the streets...hopfully it will look like this

14cue

nah, the M3 still looks better. that's a kick *** design. the new head lights look like a chicks' eyes.

EvilllEmpirE

E46 M3 still looks better

EvilllEmpirE

i think the 335 is a great package, especially for its $40kish pricetag. Sure the interior could be better, but I don't think its "over rated". The hype and exitement over the 335 has obviously been its powerplant, and the possiblity of tuning since it is a FI Tubocharged application. With just software/chip....I am sure the 335 is toe to toe, if not pulling on stock C32's and perhaps C55's. But the reliability factor will be the main sticking point....we shall see about the possible overheating issues in 335's. Also.....how well the Alum block will handle the extra boost from tuning. Some believe 400 HP may be the max reliable # from 335's. Either way...they are nice cars with exciting Turbocharged powerplant, which is what is making the carfans and enthusiasts excited about.

Jrocket

I'd like to see some more comparison's between the C32 and the 335i.Im getting ready to order the 335i real soon.

Stock for stock who's quicker?

newton22

I too, think the E46 looks better than the new 3 coupe.

drallafi

Stock for stock, the C32 will win every time. The 335i is quick, but not quick enough. It looks great, though.

Jrocket

On a drag strip,how many cars lengths do you think it would be out front?

I test drove the 335i and it has some grunt too it. I havent driven a c32yet,but Im looking for a good CPOed car at the dealer too test.

TA-9FF

Man, come on....an AMG vs. stock 3-er? It's a no brainer.

What I want to see is, stock for stock, the future C63 and new M3 go at it head to head. That should be a better comparison.

Jrocket

So how fast is a stock C32 in the 1/4 then? Seems the 335i's are real close from what Im reading,if not the exact same.

kip

Mercedes C 32 AMG - Supertest 2001 (Serie)


Motorart V 6
Hubraum 3199 ccm
Aufladung Kompressor
PS - UMin 354 PS - 6100/Min
Nm - UMin 450 Nm - 4400/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 5/Automatik
Supertest in sport auto 9/2001
Gewicht 1648 kg
0 - 80 km/h 4,1 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,5 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 9,9 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,5 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,6 s
0 - 200 km/h 19,8 s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 39,0 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 39,0 m
Nordschleife 8.37 min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.20,6 min
Querbeschleunigung 1,00 g
Slalom 18 m - km/h
Slalom 36 m 118 km/h
ISO Ausweichtest 132 km/h
Testverbrauch 15,4 L/SP

BMW 335i Coupé E92 - Supertest 2006 (Serie)


Motorart R 6 Benziner
Hubraum 2979 ccm
Aufladung BiTurbo 0,6 bar/Euro 4
PS - UMin 306 PS (225 kW) - 5800/Min
Nm - UMin 400 Nm - 1300/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 6/manuell
Supertest in sport auto 10/2006
Gewicht 1610 kg
0 - 80 km/h 4,2 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 8,0 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 10,2 s
0 - 160 km/h 13,0 s
0 - 180 km/h 16,9 s
0 - 200 km/h 20,7 s
0 - 250 km/h - s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 37,0 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 37,2 m
Nordschleife 8.26 min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.17,8 min
Motopark Oschersleben - min
max. Querbeschleunigung 1,15 g
Slalom 18 m 67,6 km/h
Slalom 36 m 130 km/h
ISO Ausweichtest 110 m 136 km/h
Testverbrauch min/max/ges 9,9/14,6/11,8 L/SP

glomar83

I test drove a 335 sedan yesterday, just for the hell of it. It was definitely impressive. I ran it up to about 90. Wasn't as quick as the c55 but I love the manual tranny. Handling was good but the brakes were really touchy. I'm sure I could get used to them. IMO, the coupe is much nicer than the sedan, but I like the c55 better regardless, especially with a price tag of about 50k for the 335.

tee_tz

$50K?? What options are you selecting?

Anyway, I think the handling and braking are BMW standard, which are the best for all manufactures in my opinion (except the Porsche's, Ferrari's & Co.). The 335i is pretty impressive - it hugs the corners quite well, well, put it this way: it's an improvement from the 330, which says a lot; I mean the 330 was certainly the best small 4-door sedan (performance wise) for year and years so expect better (disregarding S-Audi and AMG-Benz).

If you're coming from an AMG - or even an M BMW, you may not be so impressed, but you'll note that it's not exactly slow. Coming from an C320/C350 or the Audi counterparts and you'll realize this car is extraordinary! It just proves that giving the 335 300HP, 300LB/Torque, proves the M3 will be quite deadly; let's see if it can give the RS4 a run... which currently stands in the lead.


Tee_Tz.

glomar83

The sedan that I drove was priced at like 42k. There was a loaded coupe that was already sold and I believe the salesman said it was 50k or very close to it. I could be wrong though. I would go with the c55 regardless. I'm not sure if your entire post was directed at me but I am coming from an amg and I said that I was impressed with the 335.

FrankW

don't like the tail of the E92's all I have to say. lol

all previous gen M3 are timeless. can't compare.

JMC32

Where's the video?

skratch77

car keeps getting faster and faster...Its up to 405 ft lbs and 355 whp with a tune and exh and 93 oct The next M3 will barely break 300 CRANK torque lol

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43252

with some race gas and bigger down pipes It should come real close 400whp and 450 plus ft lbs in the mid range

I feel bad for the owners of the next M3 when they get walked hard by a car that cost 20k less lol

Eurocharged Rick

i am wondering how much this platform can handle...very nice car with a LOT of potential, makes me wonder where this car will peak out at? maybe i need to be looking for these on the streets...

MikeRPA

wow 335s are that fast ????? i always wanted to run it on my maxima , every1 is saying that my car is factory freak , i have a 6 speed , 06 maxima with injen CAI its very fast , i eat is350's acura tl's and g35's all day long , but i guess i dont have a chance with the 335

FrankW

with the aluminum block I don't think it can be very reliable. I doubt it'll handle the boost like the B5S4 did which can run up to 22psi on the k04 turbos, but like that link it should have no problem at around 12-15 or even 17-18 psi if the stock turbos can handle it. but the 355whp/400tq is kinda without seeing the stock dyno. Not even the chip/exhaust gave the B5 S4 more than 50-60 crank hp. different system, but you get the idea.

if it is infact correct the 535i when it becomes available may be my choice of new car. lol

skratch77

The block isnt the problem,its the stock turbos....There pretty much maxed out right now and the most some one will get is prolly just under 400whp.

I have no problems with the block.The e36 M3 that has an aluminum block and was made to be NA can make 700whp with just a head gasket.

The e46 M3 that everyone said was a high strung engine is now making over 600 whp without even opening up the block.

there are plenty of stock dynos of the 335's they make 280-290 ftlb and 260-270 whp in stock form

the s4 has nothing to do with a inline 6.The tuners on the s4 more than doubled the boost to make there gains and used the stock ecu.

the 335 is only getting 3.5 psi more than stock with a piggy back(way more flexibility than the stock ecu) and is tappering boost up top to keep them from blowing up like the s4s did.From 5k-7k the 335 drops boost down to 9 and then to 7 by redline.IM sure some kids will run them 14-15 psi all the way to redline but will greatly decrease the life of the turbos.

skratch77

A stock 335 is neck to neck with an e46 M3 all the way to 90 ish and that is when the gearing of the M3 starts to pull a little bit.They are very under rated from the factory.

they trap 104-105 in the 1/4 mile and M3s trap 105-107

but once you chip the car forget it lol.

jgsx

The high power M3s out do not have the reliablity of a stock vehicle. I know that isn't an issue for some people, and it didn't used to be an issue with me on previous vehicles, but I want my german daily driver to run perfectly. I've seen a few modified M3s around Chicago on the shoulder with the hoods up and the guy working on the car. I don't want to deal with that. I'd only modify a car to the point where it still retains its stock reliability. If I wanted to go ***** out, I'd work on an EVO.

itsmeek

i love the m3's, but i doubt that the new m3 will have a chance in hell if the c63 comes out with the specs we think it will have.