march motortrend has c63 @ 481 hp
photo and snippet on e92 m3- 410hp, may get dsg. on sale 10/07 in germany and here soon after.
pix of new g35 coupe, more swoopy, pretty nice. 306 hp. (i thought the 3.5 vq was being punched out to 3.8??)
the evo x was driven in this issue as well.
worth buying for the content on the hot new rides.
With the new CTS-V coming up, (z06 motor) and new additions from Lexus... it probably enough.
M3 its on a different class.. since it does not have 4 doors. The RS4 is a direct competitor, but its more a track car than a luxury sports sedan.
However... it definately will have tough competition.
With the new CTS-V coming up, (z06 motor) and new additions from Lexus... it probably enough.
M3 its on a different class.. since it does not have 4 doors. The RS4 is a direct competitor, but its more a track car than a luxury sports sedan.
However... it definately will have tough competition.
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remember.. the car is going to grow and add pounds.
The 7sp transmission is not as aggressive as we thought.
If you really want to know how fast it would be.... search for CLK63 and deduct a few tenths of the 0-60, 0-100 and 1/4.
There are already a few test of the CLk63 and it performed okay, but still a few ticks away from the E and CLS63
The car is probably going to be a high 12's with traps of 112+.
I just hope weight stays under 3700lbs, which I doubt.
remember.. the car is going to grow and add pounds.
The 7sp transmission is not as aggressive as we thought.
If you really want to know how fast it would be.... search for CLK63 and deduct a few tenths of the 0-60, 0-100 and 1/4.
There are already a few test of the CLk63 and it performed okay, but still a few ticks away from the E and CLS63
The car is probably going to be a high 12's with traps of 112+.
I just hope weight stays under 3700lbs, which I doubt.
Anyway so the only reason people buy the E and CLS is because its faster then the C and not because its bigger, more expensive, more of a status symbol and has more available options and standard features for it. I guess your right that couldn't be it. The only reason people buy the C is because they can't afford the E and CLS.
This is going to start a war
with people from other classes, because they would say I am full of it, but the reason I bought my C55 is because I love the styling and the interior (more sportier looking) than the E55 or CLS55 class. Don’t get me wrong I love the exterior of the other two but I just can’t see myself looking at that IP every day. Originally I was looking to purchase an E55, test drove one loved it but HATED the IP (instrument panel) JUST LOOKED TO PLAIN FOR A $115,000 car. I even got offered a hell of a deal on one MB Mississauga had in stock loaded with nav, two tone leather (red & blk), automatic trunk closing, keyless go and some others that I can't remember, they were willing to let the car go for base price $115,000 no charge for the options almost $6g's in options. Then I saw the C55 and ask my sales guy is that a C32 and he said no its a C55, I did not know about the C' Class having a 55 edition so I went over to have a look and fell in love with the interior but wanted the digital climate control, he said that the E55 was the better car with more power, so I took the C55 out for a spin and of course it did not have the power the E55 had but quite fast never the less. Long story shore after a week of SERIOUS data searching back and fort with four of my car buddies (Automotive Engineers & Technicians) to the dealer I decided to get the C55 and wanted to order the digital climate control but found out that it was not offered on North American cars so I spoke to one of the MB techs and he said it can be done if I wanted to (did not do it yet). So like you said some people buy because of STATUS, E > C but I bought because of what I like and not the MONEY.
Anyway so the only reason people buy the E and CLS is because its faster then the C and not because its bigger, more expensive, more of a status symbol and has more available options and standard features for it. I guess your right that couldn't be it. The only reason people buy the C is because they can't afford the E and CLS.
I do realize that C&D clock a very impressive time for the CLK63 whick equals the E63 and CLS63 and even a M5.
but you may want to read other times before making a general assumption.
please see below:
http://www.pbs.org/mpt/motorweek/search.shtml
(scroll down to the CLK section)
so let's not put a new W204 in the 11's yet.
I am working with DC Switzerland and believe me, the C63 will not be faster than the E63. That's policy. But it will look very sporty like a real muscle car. The AMG Package on the new W204 C-class is a good hint how sporty it will be.
Regards,
Tim
Last edited by Tim CH; Feb 10, 2007 at 09:57 AM.
With the new CTS-V coming up, (z06 motor) and new additions from Lexus... it probably enough.
M3 its on a different class.. since it does not have 4 doors. The RS4 is a direct competitor, but its more a track car than a luxury sports sedan.
However... it definately will have tough competition.



