How to know if Valeo?
02-21-2007, 07:44 PM
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How to know if Valeo?
Hi, I already tried searching and didn't come up with any definitive way to determine if my radiator is a Valeo. Does anyone have a picture or can give me an answer as to how I know if it is a Valeo? It is black, and I don't see any writing anywhere.
02-21-2007, 10:40 PM
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If you have a Behr, you'll find its ID sticker on the bottom, in the middle of the lower radiator tank.
If you do indeed have the dreaded Valeo, insist that your dealer perform a Glycol test. It's a warranty job; Star Bulletin #P-B-27.55/50f.
If you do indeed have the dreaded Valeo, insist that your dealer perform a Glycol test. It's a warranty job; Star Bulletin #P-B-27.55/50f.
02-22-2007, 10:08 AM
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Outside of warranty though. If it's valeo, would the smart thing to do be to just replace radiator and flush radiator fluid AND transmission fluid or is that overkill without the glycol test?
02-22-2007, 01:52 PM
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Some may think it's overkill without the glycol test, but I had it all done. The peace of mind was WAY worth the extra $$.
02-23-2007, 04:16 PM
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i thought the issue with the rad was not if it will fail but when. i had mine replaced, tranny fluid flushed. car runs like a dream now. very smooth.
you can flush or test but in a month the rad could fail, what then? by the time you recognise you have a problem you may need a new tranny or toque convertor....$$$$$.
DO IT NOW!
02-23-2007, 04:20 PM
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i thought the issue with the rad was not if it will fail but when. i had mine replaced, tranny fluid flushed. car runs like a dream now. very smooth.
you can flush and in a month the rad could fail, what then? by the time you recognise you have a problem you may need a new tranny or toque convertor....$$$$$.
DO IT NOW!
you can flush and in a month the rad could fail, what then? by the time you recognise you have a problem you may need a new tranny or toque convertor....$$$$$.
DO IT NOW!
Isn't there a Transmission Control Unit software upgrade from 02 to 03 that I could ask for as well to the dealer or is that pushing it?
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There are different Valeo radiators.
Not all Valeo radiators are bad. There is the bad Valeo that caused coolant to leak into the transmission system (as described in the TSB, it's the way the radiator expansion tanks are crimped together) and the updated Valeo that was to mitigate that problem (I know because I have the updated Valeo, and it does not look anything like the one shown in the TSB). The only is thing that the updated Valeo radiator part number did not last long because it was replaced when MB switched radiator suppliers for the subsequent model year. I checked part numbers with a dealer and it seems to confirm the frequent updating (or superseding) of radiator part number year after year.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
02-23-2007, 09:06 PM
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Not all Valeo radiators are bad. There is the bad Valeo that caused coolant to leak into the transmission system (as described in the TSB, it's the way the radiator expansion tanks are crimped together) and the updated Valeo that was to mitigate that problem (I know because I have the updated Valeo, and it does not look anything like the one shown in the TSB). The only is thing that the updated Valeo radiator part number did not last long because it was replaced when MB switched radiator suppliers for the subsequent model year. I checked part numbers with a dealer and it seems to confirm the frequent updating (or superseding) of radiator part number year after year.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
02-23-2007, 09:25 PM
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02-23-2007, 09:53 PM
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Mine is a 2002 (went into service June of 2002) and it doesn't have the Valeo radiator. There's no record on the VMI of it being replaced either.
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Yes, the following are affected by potential Valeo failure, and therefore Glycol contamination of the ATF;
Models 203.040/061/064/065/081/084/261/281/284/740/747/764
Models 209.365/375/376/465/475
Models 211.065/070/076/083/265/283
*Up to Production Date 09/2003*
Because of copyright issues, the pdf bulletin cannot be reproduced here.
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Models 203.040/061/064/065/081/084/261/281/284/740/747/764
Models 209.365/375/376/465/475
Models 211.065/070/076/083/265/283
*Up to Production Date 09/2003*
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02-25-2007, 11:35 AM
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Is this a good deal on a Behr radiator?
http://replacement.autopartswarehous...diator&dp=true
The first one.
http://replacement.autopartswarehous...diator&dp=true
The first one.
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here's where i got mine $189 oem behr.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/175571-189-good-price-radiator.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/175571-189-good-price-radiator.html
02-25-2007, 12:17 PM
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here's where i got mine $189 oem behr.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=175571
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=175571
03-13-2007, 09:49 PM
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The dealer install a Valeo radiator in my car before I bought it. There is a sticker on the top that has 11/4/2004 on it, so hopefully it's the new one and won't leak.
Anyone think I should say screw it and get the Behr?
Anyone think I should say screw it and get the Behr?
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Does anyone have any more up to date and accurate information on how to determin whether a C32 has a Valeo? Mine is missing the label it seems and I can't verify the make of the radiator.
GT4AWD mentioned that the crimps are different. But different how?
GT4AWD mentioned that the crimps are different. But different how?
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Yes, the following are affected by potential Valeo failure, and therefore Glycol contamination of the ATF;
Models 203.040/061/064/065/081/084/261/281/284/740/747/764
Models 209.365/375/376/465/475
Models 211.065/070/076/083/265/283
*Up to Production Date 09/2003*
Because of copyright issues, the pdf bulletin cannot be reproduced here.
Send an inquiry to johngoodlad@verizon.net should you require further discussion.
Models 203.040/061/064/065/081/084/261/281/284/740/747/764
Models 209.365/375/376/465/475
Models 211.065/070/076/083/265/283
*Up to Production Date 09/2003*
Because of copyright issues, the pdf bulletin cannot be reproduced here.
Send an inquiry to johngoodlad@verizon.net should you require further discussion.
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