How to know if Valeo?

Subscribe
Feb 21, 2007 | 07:44 PM
  #1  
Hi, I already tried searching and didn't come up with any definitive way to determine if my radiator is a Valeo. Does anyone have a picture or can give me an answer as to how I know if it is a Valeo? It is black, and I don't see any writing anywhere.
Reply 0
Feb 21, 2007 | 09:46 PM
  #2  
It has a small label on top of the rad which is hard to see. I tried looking from quite a few openings and angles until I noticed it.
Reply 0
Feb 21, 2007 | 10:40 PM
  #3  
If you have a Behr, you'll find its ID sticker on the bottom, in the middle of the lower radiator tank.

If you do indeed have the dreaded Valeo, insist that your dealer perform a Glycol test. It's a warranty job; Star Bulletin #P-B-27.55/50f.
Reply 0
Feb 22, 2007 | 10:08 AM
  #4  
Quote: If you have a Behr, you'll find its ID sticker on the bottom, in the middle of the lower radiator tank.

If you do indeed have the dreaded Valeo, insist that your dealer perform a Glycol test. It's a warranty job; Star Bulletin #P-B-27.55/50f.
Outside of warranty though. If it's valeo, would the smart thing to do be to just replace radiator and flush radiator fluid AND transmission fluid or is that overkill without the glycol test?
Reply 0
Feb 22, 2007 | 01:52 PM
  #5  
Quote: Outside of warranty though. If it's valeo, would the smart thing to do be to just replace radiator and flush radiator fluid AND transmission fluid or is that overkill without the glycol test?
Some may think it's overkill without the glycol test, but I had it all done. The peace of mind was WAY worth the extra $$.
Reply 0
Feb 23, 2007 | 04:16 PM
  #6  
Quote: Some may think it's overkill without the glycol test, but I had it all done. The peace of mind was WAY worth the extra $$.

i thought the issue with the rad was not if it will fail but when. i had mine replaced, tranny fluid flushed. car runs like a dream now. very smooth.

you can flush or test but in a month the rad could fail, what then? by the time you recognise you have a problem you may need a new tranny or toque convertor....$$$$$.

DO IT NOW!
Reply 0
Feb 23, 2007 | 04:20 PM
  #7  
Quote: i thought the issue with the rad was not if it will fail but when. i had mine replaced, tranny fluid flushed. car runs like a dream now. very smooth.

you can flush and in a month the rad could fail, what then? by the time you recognise you have a problem you may need a new tranny or toque convertor....$$$$$.

DO IT NOW!
Yeah, I'm gonna do it within the next couple weeks. I got a motorcycle so I will ride that mostly till the radiator is fixed. I think all at the same time I'll change radiator, intercooler pump, flush transmission fluid, and flush radiator coolant. That should alleviate me from the dreaded problems Isn't there a Transmission Control Unit software upgrade from 02 to 03 that I could ask for as well to the dealer or is that pushing it?
Reply 0
Feb 23, 2007 | 05:31 PM
  #8  
Quote: If you have a Behr, you'll find its ID sticker on the bottom, in the middle of the lower radiator tank.

If you do indeed have the dreaded Valeo, insist that your dealer perform a Glycol test. It's a warranty job; Star Bulletin #P-B-27.55/50f.
Does Star Bulletin #P-B-27.55/50f list any other models besides the C32 with this problem ? or just the C32 ????
Reply 0

MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

Explore
story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Feb 23, 2007 | 06:04 PM
  #9  
There are different Valeo radiators.
Not all Valeo radiators are bad. There is the bad Valeo that caused coolant to leak into the transmission system (as described in the TSB, it's the way the radiator expansion tanks are crimped together) and the updated Valeo that was to mitigate that problem (I know because I have the updated Valeo, and it does not look anything like the one shown in the TSB). The only is thing that the updated Valeo radiator part number did not last long because it was replaced when MB switched radiator suppliers for the subsequent model year. I checked part numbers with a dealer and it seems to confirm the frequent updating (or superseding) of radiator part number year after year.

Hope this helps.
Reply 0
Feb 23, 2007 | 09:06 PM
  #10  
Quote: Not all Valeo radiators are bad. There is the bad Valeo that caused coolant to leak into the transmission system (as described in the TSB, it's the way the radiator expansion tanks are crimped together) and the updated Valeo that was to mitigate that problem (I know because I have the updated Valeo, and it does not look anything like the one shown in the TSB). The only is thing that the updated Valeo radiator part number did not last long because it was replaced when MB switched radiator suppliers for the subsequent model year. I checked part numbers with a dealer and it seems to confirm the frequent updating (or superseding) of radiator part number year after year.

Hope this helps.
OK i thought all 2002 c32s had the "defective" rads??
Reply 0
Feb 23, 2007 | 09:25 PM
  #11  
Quote: OK i thought all 2002 c32s had the "defective" rads??
AWDman,

You got me there...mine is an 03, TJ_Andrews did not mention 02 only so I posted my obersvation. So I should have put: "03 and on have different Valeo rads...

I wouldn't be able to speak for 02's.

Cheers.
Reply 0
Feb 23, 2007 | 09:53 PM
  #12  
Quote: AWDman, You got me there...mine is an 03, TJ_Andrews did not mention 02 only so I posted my obersvation. So I should have put: "03 and on have different Valeo rads...
I wouldn't be able to speak for 02's.
Cheers.
Mine is a 2002 (went into service June of 2002) and it doesn't have the Valeo radiator. There's no record on the VMI of it being replaced either.
Reply 0
Feb 23, 2007 | 10:02 PM
  #13  
Quote: Mine is a 2002..and it doesn't have the Valeo radiator...
OE Behr installed at birth in mine too!
Reply 0
Feb 24, 2007 | 10:31 AM
  #14  
Quote: Yes, the following are affected by potential Valeo failure, and therefore Glycol contamination of the ATF;

Models 203.040/061/064/065/081/084/261/281/284/740/747/764

Models 209.365/375/376/465/475

Models 211.065/070/076/083/265/283

*Up to Production Date 09/2003*

Because of copyright issues, the pdf bulletin cannot be reproduced here.
Send an inquiry to johngoodlad@verizon.net should you require further discussion.
Where do you find the Model of your car that you mentioned here?
Reply 0
Feb 24, 2007 | 02:13 PM
  #15  
Quote:
Where do you find the Model..?
It's listed in the "technical data" section of the operator's manual. C32=203.065
Reply 0
Feb 25, 2007 | 11:35 AM
  #16  
Is this a good deal on a Behr radiator?

http://replacement.autopartswarehous...diator&dp=true

The first one.
Reply 0
Feb 25, 2007 | 12:08 PM
  #17  
here's where i got mine $189 oem behr.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/175571-189-good-price-radiator.html
Reply 0
Feb 25, 2007 | 12:17 PM
  #18  
Quote: here's where i got mine $189 oem behr.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=175571
You end up installing it yourself or you get it professionally done?
Reply 0
Mar 13, 2007 | 09:49 PM
  #19  
The dealer install a Valeo radiator in my car before I bought it. There is a sticker on the top that has 11/4/2004 on it, so hopefully it's the new one and won't leak.

Anyone think I should say screw it and get the Behr?
Reply 0
Oct 17, 2010 | 04:55 PM
  #20  
Does anyone have any more up to date and accurate information on how to determin whether a C32 has a Valeo? Mine is missing the label it seems and I can't verify the make of the radiator.

GT4AWD mentioned that the crimps are different. But different how?
Reply 0
Oct 18, 2010 | 01:38 AM
  #21  
Valeo connection...


How to know if Valeo?-valeocrimp.jpg  

Reply 0
Oct 18, 2010 | 02:10 PM
  #22  
Trying to figure out what that picture is a picture of.
Reply 0
Oct 19, 2010 | 12:51 AM
  #23  
The end tank on the radiator. Bottom side.
Reply 0
Oct 19, 2010 | 03:32 AM
  #24  
Quote: Yes, the following are affected by potential Valeo failure, and therefore Glycol contamination of the ATF;

Models 203.040/061/064/065/081/084/261/281/284/740/747/764

Models 209.365/375/376/465/475

Models 211.065/070/076/083/265/283

*Up to Production Date 09/2003*

Because of copyright issues, the pdf bulletin cannot be reproduced here.
Send an inquiry to johngoodlad@verizon.net should you require further discussion.
Never checked my radiator until now that this thread was resurrected. I do have the Valeo radiator but the part number is A 203 500 39 03, with a date of 04/02/05 which is not listed on the list that Splinter provided here in 2007. My car is a 2002, does this mean the first owner might of encountered the glycol contamination and therefore replacing it..? Production date was 02/2002..
Reply 0
Oct 19, 2010 | 07:28 AM
  #25  
Sounds like yours has already been replaced. Where did you find the part number that you referenced?
Reply 0
story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE