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Has any C32 here failed their battery/alternator?

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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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Has any C32 here failed their battery/alternator?

Mine is a 02 C32 and got this warning msg came up today saying Battery/Alternator failed and undervoltage low. I asked a shop to test the battery and alternator and they said the output voltage of the alternator is low. Since they don't have parts at the time, i drove the car home and planned to go back on Monday and on the way home, all sorts of msg came up and car had no power and i couldn't turn on the engine. Just wondering does any body else experienced this on their C32? and do we have to use the OEM alternator? or is there a cheaper alternative? any info will be appreciated.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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very goo Qs.

I would like to know about this as will, but most folks on the board advise you to search b4 giving you a straight foward answer.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by crystal_ice
Mine is a 02 C32 and got this warning msg came up today saying Battery/Alternator failed and undervoltage low. I asked a shop to test the battery and alternator and they said the output voltage of the alternator is low. Since they don't have parts at the time, i drove the car home and planned to go back on Monday and on the way home, all sorts of msg came up and car had no power and i couldn't turn on the engine. Just wondering does any body else experienced this on their C32? and do we have to use the OEM alternator? or is there a cheaper alternative? any info will be appreciated.
I have not had that problem with my C32 yet, but then again i'm only at 50,000K's but my old car had his problem, where i got a low voltage sign and the car cut power and then all these messages cames on. so for the messages coming on that is normal, the car does not have enough voltage to run its current function, soo all the messages will come on. But with my old car my the problem went to the next level, where the alternator started shooting out blue flames out the side, so i would highly recommend not driving the car until u get this fixed. my personal recommendation would be that you stick with a mercedes item when it comes to stuff like this.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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I experienced battery drainage due to a control seat module malfunction. I'll recommend you check current draws on both modules before replacing the alternator.

If you call MB assistance, they won't charge you for labor replacing the battery.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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I experienced battery drainage due to a control seat module malfunction. I'll recommend you check current draws on both modules before replacing the alternator.

If you call MB assistance, they won't charge you for labor replacing the battery.
agree ! try to unplug power suply on passenger and driver side seats. There is 4 plugs under each seat, un plug the Big flat one only. If those two does not work it might be the seat module malfunction i had it replaced on my brillant silver 320. * i think it was around 1200 or 1700 plus labor... 3 years ago....
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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If the alternator is not putting out enough voltage (at least 13.5V) then it is bad. This is an easy check and it sounds like the shop did this test. There is no way a seat module or any other high drain on the battery will drag this voltage down.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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thanks guys for the replys. The car is at dealer now and first step they said is to fully charge the battery now before they perform any test. This will be done Monday. I will let you guys know the official diagnostic.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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thanks guys for the replys. The car is at dealer now and first step they said is to fully charge the battery now before they perform any test. This will be done Monday. I will let you guys know the official diagnostic.
The best answer would be to remove the alternator and bench test it. This should be able to determine how good the unit is.
I realize that the seat control modules can drain the battery, but demonstrating a low system voltage while the car is running is strongly suggestive of an alternator problem.

The other issue is that if you "deep cycle" (drain) the battery by running the car when the alternator is not working until the battery dies, then you probably should replace the battery also. Just my 2cents. They don't seem to hold charge again like they should.

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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by crystal_ice
Mine is a 02 C32 and got this warning msg came up today saying Battery/Alternator failed and undervoltage low. I asked a shop to test the battery and alternator and they said the output voltage of the alternator is low. Since they don't have parts at the time, i drove the car home and planned to go back on Monday and on the way home, all sorts of msg came up and car had no power and i couldn't turn on the engine. Just wondering does any body else experienced this on their C32? and do we have to use the OEM alternator? or is there a cheaper alternative? any info will be appreciated.
The same scenario happened with me. I had the same voltage warning message for about a week and then a whole bunch of warnings lit up and the car wouldn't start. I brought it in and had the alternator replaced under warranty. I asked them to check the seat modules and they said they did in fact check them and they are fine. It's been a year and it hasn't happened since, so it was the alternator.
Re: alternatives to getting a new one - there must be a way to recondition them?

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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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The same scenario happened with me. I had the same voltage warning message for about a week and then a whole bunch of warnings lit up and the car wouldn't start. I brought it in and had the alternator replaced under warranty. I asked them to check the seat modules and they said they did in fact check them and they are fine. It's been a year and it hasn't happened since, so it was the alternator.
Re: alternatives to getting a new one - there must be a way to recondition them?
recondition them, you can have them rebuilt, but its wate of money in my opinion. How much did the dealer charge for the replacement of the new alrernator ? just curious
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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recondition them, you can have them rebuilt, but its wate of money in my opinion. How much did the dealer charge for the replacement of the new alrernator ? just curious
It was covered under warranty - my warranty invoices never have charges on them - sorry!
Here's the part #'s though:
1 x 112-154-02-02-88 (alternator)
1 x 112-154-02-02-88 (core return)
1 x 002-997-24-90 (loom tie)
2 x 005-997-62-90 (loom tie)
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Old May 1, 2007 | 03:40 AM
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If it is a bosch alternator then it is most likely the regulator. The bosch alternator in rebuildable if it comes to that.

The Valeo alternator on the otherhand is more than likely going to require replacement. When mine failed last year valeo were only releasing them through MB. It was nil stk Germany and had to be specially ordered (6 weeks).........I wasn't happy!
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Old May 2, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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I replaced the alternator on my 2003 C32 last year as the front bearing went noisy. I was going to have it stripped and pop a new bearing in, but time constraints meant I just bought a new one from MB in the end. It was a valeo unit (made in France)(strangely almost everything that has broken on my car has the Valeo badge on it and France as the country of origin. Hmmm.)

At that time, I was told by a friend who is a UK Valeo agent, that MB hold the patent on the unit, and it would not be released to the aftermarket, or even sold by Valeo agents for some while to come...
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recondition them, you can have them rebuilt, but its wate of money in my opinion. How much did the dealer charge for the replacement of the new alrernator ? just curious
A rebuilt Bosch alternator for a C32 is about $325 over the counter. The last Bosch alternator I had rebuilt cost me about $70 (brushes, bearings, paint, and labor). The last time I priced a *new* Bosch alternator (Porsche) it was over a grand. Why do you recommend not having one rebuilt?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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Mine is a 02 C32 and got this warning msg came up today saying Battery/Alternator failed and undervoltage low. I asked a shop to test the battery and alternator and they said the output voltage of the alternator is low. Since they don't have parts at the time, i drove the car home and planned to go back on Monday and on the way home, all sorts of msg came up and car had no power and i couldn't turn on the engine. Just wondering does any body else experienced this on their C32? and do we have to use the OEM alternator? or is there a cheaper alternative? any info will be appreciated.
My '02's service history shows a battery/electrical failure and jump start at 17,500 miles back in 2004. Obviously that was before I owned it so I have no idea what happened. For all I know, the owner left the lights on. I've personally had no problems with the car's electrical system and the service history doesn't show any other than that one. I'm sure you could get a cheaper alternator at Auto Zone, Pep Boys, or whatever but I don't know how that would enhance reliability to be blunt.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by boohooramblers
It was covered under warranty - my warranty invoices never have charges on them - sorry!
Here's the part #'s though:
1 x 112-154-02-02-88 (alternator)
1 x 112-154-02-02-88 (core return)
1 x 002-997-24-90 (loom tie)
2 x 005-997-62-90 (loom tie)
So, do we know if this is a Valeo or Bosch alternator? OEMparts direct shows a price of $615 for that part number, which is still $220 cheaper than my local independent quoted me for a re-built.
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