Anyone ever driven both C32 and an E46 M3?
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I have driven both, infact I have a C32 on order (Arriving November 10th). The M3 does infact feel faster in a straight line because the ride is a lot more harsh, so you really feel every bump in the road, don't be decieved by this though; the C32 is infact faster in a straight line than the M3.
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I've driven both. The M3 feels faster because the torque curve is not as flat as with the C32. It charges with great drama towards its 8000 rpm redline, whereas the C32 produces speed with relatively less fuss.
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One of my friends just took the delivery of his jet black M3, and I had the chance of driving it the other day. According to my butt dyno, the M3 certainly feel faster, DOES handle the curve a lot better. The seating position is higher than the c32.
anyway, WOW is the word I would use for both car. I certainly don't regret getting the C32.
anyway, WOW is the word I would use for both car. I certainly don't regret getting the C32.
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I own an 02 C32. My younger brother owned an 02 M3 for all of about 3 months. After the M3 was broken in, we took turns driving both. The M3 felt slooowww in a straight line. We did not have a G-tech at the time, but there was no comaprison between the two cars when broken in. Absent droping the clutch, it does not have the get up and go of the C32. Handling on some tight twisties was in the M3's favor - slighlty less body roll. I have tracked the C32 and have no doubt at the track it may be more fun to play with the M3. My C32 was able to hang with a C5 sporting a pair of Hosier slicks though - not a bad accomplishment. In everyday driving though, the power of the C32 is more useable. The M3 is nice but I think BMW got something wrong this last version. Too many engine problems for my liking. I have no doubt the next M3 will be another killer car - which will include a 4 door.
The end result was that the M3 got traded on an 02 NSX. We bought a G-tecj pro and ran the cars in 0-60 runs. My brother would not drop the NSX clutch. No problem for the C32 to match the NSX's time. In fact I beat it on the first run 5.20 compared to 5.28.
So that resulted in the NSX getting supercharged. Several grand later, he's got a faster car, but it is not useable. So say good-bye to the NSX (this past weekend) and hello to a Bentley. He's giving up.
The C32 is still around will be for 2-3 more years.
The end result was that the M3 got traded on an 02 NSX. We bought a G-tecj pro and ran the cars in 0-60 runs. My brother would not drop the NSX clutch. No problem for the C32 to match the NSX's time. In fact I beat it on the first run 5.20 compared to 5.28.
So that resulted in the NSX getting supercharged. Several grand later, he's got a faster car, but it is not useable. So say good-bye to the NSX (this past weekend) and hello to a Bentley. He's giving up.
The C32 is still around will be for 2-3 more years.
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C32 & C240
Sorry - he (or the master of the house) had both - an 02 911 turbo in fly yellow and a 360 F1. Both have come and gone. The 355 F1 (targa) has stuck around for some odd reason - perhaps its the add-ons that the little one added which killed the re-sale / not that the NSX held its value with the supercharger and free flow exhaust.
An S8 is the main ride - 02 porsche targa was traded in. Actually the 02 targa was traded in on a Jag XJR (?? not sure if I have the right name here - the claimed 400 hp - midsize). Severe tranny problems shifting from 2nd to 1st while stoping. Tried a second one and same problem. Transaction was undone and off to the Audi dealer across the street.
My only dissapointment is that NSX/Bentley debacle killed the SL55 purchase. I may be waiting for the SL360 or perhaps a SMART car in 05 just for the hell of it.
An S8 is the main ride - 02 porsche targa was traded in. Actually the 02 targa was traded in on a Jag XJR (?? not sure if I have the right name here - the claimed 400 hp - midsize). Severe tranny problems shifting from 2nd to 1st while stoping. Tried a second one and same problem. Transaction was undone and off to the Audi dealer across the street.
My only dissapointment is that NSX/Bentley debacle killed the SL55 purchase. I may be waiting for the SL360 or perhaps a SMART car in 05 just for the hell of it.
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Originally posted by Chan
The C32 unless up against an SMG M3 should be quicker due to its very nice auto tranny.
The SMG M3 pulls off more consecutive times than the manual.
The C32 unless up against an SMG M3 should be quicker due to its very nice auto tranny.
The SMG M3 pulls off more consecutive times than the manual.
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i also hear that air temps and conditions play a big in which car pulls better i.e. coller temps is better for an NA engine while hot, dense air is better for blown engines. i might have gotten that switched around.
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Originally posted by JDMkIV
i also hear that air temps and conditions play a big in which car pulls better i.e. coller temps is better for an NA engine while hot, dense air is better for blown engines. i might have gotten that switched around.
i also hear that air temps and conditions play a big in which car pulls better i.e. coller temps is better for an NA engine while hot, dense air is better for blown engines. i might have gotten that switched around.
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Originally posted by Accord
The C32 is faster in a straight line than the SMG2 and manual tranny M3.
The C32 is faster in a straight line than the SMG2 and manual tranny M3.
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Originally posted by FrankW
it depends on the driver of the M3 manu or SMGII, and the condition when the test was made. SMG can actually be drop clutched from neutral to 1. That's what i tried with my friend's M3 SMG. Not a hard launch though, just a normal driving launch.
it depends on the driver of the M3 manu or SMGII, and the condition when the test was made. SMG can actually be drop clutched from neutral to 1. That's what i tried with my friend's M3 SMG. Not a hard launch though, just a normal driving launch.
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Originally posted by ro0zy
BOTH are low 13sec cars....SHEESH:p
within 1/10th's of each other!!!!! so many factors that affect that so lets just say BOTH are low 13sec cars.
BOTH are low 13sec cars....SHEESH:p
within 1/10th's of each other!!!!! so many factors that affect that so lets just say BOTH are low 13sec cars.
One is made for Autobahn, and one the made for Nurburgring. That's my story and i'm sticking to it.
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Frank, the launch control system of the U.S. SMG does not allow as high of rpm to drop the clutch at as the European counterpart. In any case, the 6-speed is still quicker to the 1/4 mile.
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Originally posted by JustinTRW
Frank, the launch control system of the U.S. SMG does not allow as high of rpm to drop the clutch at as the European counterpart. In any case, the 6-speed is still quicker to the 1/4 mile.
Frank, the launch control system of the U.S. SMG does not allow as high of rpm to drop the clutch at as the European counterpart. In any case, the 6-speed is still quicker to the 1/4 mile.
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i havent riden in either, but have heard them both racing in person. The M3 didnt have the exhuast note I thought it would. The C32 sounded way better.
