Bone Stock Maggie goes 12.80 @ 109 MPH!
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Bone Stock Maggie goes 12.80 @ 109 MPH!
Click here for the 12.8 @ 109 video.
As some of you may recall, I recently ran a Stage II C32 AMG on the highway and after beating it easily, was told by members of this forum that the C32 must have been broken or the driver didn't know what he was doing. I was also laughed at when I told people I was doing 0-60 MPH in 4.5 seconds according to the built in timer that comes on '07 SRT-8s. Lastly, a bunch of people started magazine racing and quoting obscure sources which put the SRT-8 nowhere near my 4.5 second 0-60 MPH times...
Well I finally had a chance to take Maggie to the local dragstrip in Englishtown, NJ. She ran a 12.802 @ 109.12 and then backed it up with a 12.9 @ 108 on the second pass. I'm pretty happy with these numbers considering the car is 100% bone stock with no modifications whatsoever. It even still has the temp tags on it.
On my 12.802 pass, the 0-60 MPH according to the car's built in EVIC was a 4.45. I think with more practice, I can cut a mid to high 1.8 60ft and run a 12.6 to 12.7 in cooler air at Atco. Not too shabby for a 4400lb naturally aspirated family wagon!!!
Here are all the specs:
2007 Dodge Magnum SRT-8 w/3200 miles on the odo
No options except option package #2 (air filtration, automatic headlights, etc)
Track elevation: 70ft above sea level
Outside temperature: 71°F
Barometric Pressure: 29.43 In.
Dewpoint: 55°F
Density Altitude: 1617ft
Race weight including driver: 4388lbs
Please don't be a hater on this thread. Remember, afterall, this car is comprised of a LOT of Mercedes-Benz parts, including the trans and rear end.
Click here for the 12.8 @ 109 video.
As some of you may recall, I recently ran a Stage II C32 AMG on the highway and after beating it easily, was told by members of this forum that the C32 must have been broken or the driver didn't know what he was doing. I was also laughed at when I told people I was doing 0-60 MPH in 4.5 seconds according to the built in timer that comes on '07 SRT-8s. Lastly, a bunch of people started magazine racing and quoting obscure sources which put the SRT-8 nowhere near my 4.5 second 0-60 MPH times...
Well I finally had a chance to take Maggie to the local dragstrip in Englishtown, NJ. She ran a 12.802 @ 109.12 and then backed it up with a 12.9 @ 108 on the second pass. I'm pretty happy with these numbers considering the car is 100% bone stock with no modifications whatsoever. It even still has the temp tags on it.
On my 12.802 pass, the 0-60 MPH according to the car's built in EVIC was a 4.45. I think with more practice, I can cut a mid to high 1.8 60ft and run a 12.6 to 12.7 in cooler air at Atco. Not too shabby for a 4400lb naturally aspirated family wagon!!!
Here are all the specs:
2007 Dodge Magnum SRT-8 w/3200 miles on the odo
No options except option package #2 (air filtration, automatic headlights, etc)
Track elevation: 70ft above sea level
Outside temperature: 71°F
Barometric Pressure: 29.43 In.
Dewpoint: 55°F
Density Altitude: 1617ft
Race weight including driver: 4388lbs
Please don't be a hater on this thread. Remember, afterall, this car is comprised of a LOT of Mercedes-Benz parts, including the trans and rear end.
Click here for the 12.8 @ 109 video.
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if 109 is your best you still won't beat a stage2 C32.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2204804
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2204804
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Last edited by FrankW; Sep 6, 2007 at 05:11 AM.
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check the link, smart ***...
stage "ONE" pulls off 109-110 easy. stage "two" running properly would rape your ***. given that you don't jump into someone else's car and "press buttons"...
btw, also found these http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21
stage "ONE" pulls off 109-110 easy. stage "two" running properly would rape your ***. given that you don't jump into someone else's car and "press buttons"...
btw, also found these http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21
Last edited by FrankW; Sep 6, 2007 at 05:23 AM.
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check the link, smart ***...
stage "ONE" pulls off 109-110 easy. stage "two" running properly would rape your ***. given that you don't jump into someone else's car and "press buttons"...
btw, also found these http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21
stage "ONE" pulls off 109-110 easy. stage "two" running properly would rape your ***. given that you don't jump into someone else's car and "press buttons"...
btw, also found these http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21
Again, magazine racing sure is fun, but it's not applicable to my real world experiences.
I'm officially calling out any and all C32 AMGs on this forum. Step up to the plate instead of hiding behind data published on websites and in magazines.
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BTW, trap speeds don't tell the whole story when racing from a highway roll. Picture two cars that both trap at 109 in the 1/4 mile. One car has a top end of 175 while the other only goes 160. They do a pull from 80 to 150 and despite their 109 trap speeds, the one that has a 175 top end cleans the clocks of the one that goes 160. A lot can happen PAST the trap speed.
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Why don't you not edit your post after I respond to your post, smart ***?
Again, magazine racing sure is fun, but it's not applicable to my real world experiences.
I'm officially calling out any and all C32 AMGs on this forum. Step up to the plate instead of hiding behind data published on websites and in magazines.
Again, magazine racing sure is fun, but it's not applicable to my real world experiences.
I'm officially calling out any and all C32 AMGs on this forum. Step up to the plate instead of hiding behind data published on websites and in magazines.
btw, I was adding the links before you posted.
I'd run you. just come out to SoCal. I'll be waiting. mine's not even a stage 2.
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BTW, trap speeds don't tell the whole story when racing from a highway roll. Picture two cars that both trap at 109 in the 1/4 mile. One car has a top end of 175 while the other only goes 160. They do a pull from 80 to 150 and despite their 109 trap speeds, the one that has a 175 top end cleans the clocks of the one that goes 160. A lot can happen PAST the trap speed.
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Not an AMG :(
...As some of you may recall, I recently ran a Stage II C32 AMG on the highway and after beating it easily.....
in a C32/C55 forum.No 'hating' here - if memory serves me, doesn't it share components with the W210? If so, post your times there.
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Click here for the 12.8 @ 109 video.
As some of you may recall, I recently ran a Stage II C32 AMG on the highway and after beating it easily, was told by members of this forum that the C32 must have been broken or the driver didn't know what he was doing. I was also laughed at when I told people I was doing 0-60 MPH in 4.5 seconds according to the built in timer that comes on '07 SRT-8s. Lastly, a bunch of people started magazine racing and quoting obscure sources which put the SRT-8 nowhere near my 4.5 second 0-60 MPH times...
Well I finally had a chance to take Maggie to the local dragstrip in Englishtown, NJ. She ran a 12.802 @ 109.12 and then backed it up with a 12.9 @ 108 on the second pass. I'm pretty happy with these numbers considering the car is 100% bone stock with no modifications whatsoever. It even still has the temp tags on it.
On my 12.802 pass, the 0-60 MPH according to the car's built in EVIC was a 4.45. I think with more practice, I can cut a mid to high 1.8 60ft and run a 12.6 to 12.7 in cooler air at Atco. Not too shabby for a 4400lb naturally aspirated family wagon!!!
Here are all the specs:
2007 Dodge Magnum SRT-8 w/3200 miles on the odo
No options except option package #2 (air filtration, automatic headlights, etc)
Track elevation: 70ft above sea level
Outside temperature: 71°F
Barometric Pressure: 29.43 In.
Dewpoint: 55°F
Density Altitude: 1617ft
Race weight including driver: 4388lbs
Please don't be a hater on this thread. Remember, afterall, this car is comprised of a LOT of Mercedes-Benz parts, including the trans and rear end.
Click here for the 12.8 @ 109 video.
As some of you may recall, I recently ran a Stage II C32 AMG on the highway and after beating it easily, was told by members of this forum that the C32 must have been broken or the driver didn't know what he was doing. I was also laughed at when I told people I was doing 0-60 MPH in 4.5 seconds according to the built in timer that comes on '07 SRT-8s. Lastly, a bunch of people started magazine racing and quoting obscure sources which put the SRT-8 nowhere near my 4.5 second 0-60 MPH times...
Well I finally had a chance to take Maggie to the local dragstrip in Englishtown, NJ. She ran a 12.802 @ 109.12 and then backed it up with a 12.9 @ 108 on the second pass. I'm pretty happy with these numbers considering the car is 100% bone stock with no modifications whatsoever. It even still has the temp tags on it.
On my 12.802 pass, the 0-60 MPH according to the car's built in EVIC was a 4.45. I think with more practice, I can cut a mid to high 1.8 60ft and run a 12.6 to 12.7 in cooler air at Atco. Not too shabby for a 4400lb naturally aspirated family wagon!!!
Here are all the specs:
2007 Dodge Magnum SRT-8 w/3200 miles on the odo
No options except option package #2 (air filtration, automatic headlights, etc)
Track elevation: 70ft above sea level
Outside temperature: 71°F
Barometric Pressure: 29.43 In.
Dewpoint: 55°F
Density Altitude: 1617ft
Race weight including driver: 4388lbs
Please don't be a hater on this thread. Remember, afterall, this car is comprised of a LOT of Mercedes-Benz parts, including the trans and rear end.
Click here for the 12.8 @ 109 video.
Okay, first thing first:
Congrats on your run, its always great to see stock cars running so well
Now with that being said, DUDE, GO AWAY BACK TO CHRYSLER LAND.
No one here cares about dinosaur tech from the 60's or 6.1 liter engines
Its great to see Chrysler is going back to its roots of Bricks on wheels with HUGE engines. They have already done that in the sixties as I saidDo you realize that there ar Honda's with 2.? engines running 8' and 9's
SO what if your 6.1 liter engine can beat a stock 3.2 liter, try it against a 5.5 and see what happens
It doesn't empress me one bit, No one here could give a rats a__ about your car.
We like, style, blowers, handling, braking, etc, etc
If we pulled up to a restaurant, bar, night club, or a group of ladies, Whose car do you think will get noticed
Unless of course it was a group of socor moms looking for storage
Go back to Chrysler land, and brag about your toy there.
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Click here for the 12.8 @ 109 video.
As some of you may recall, I recently ran a Stage II C32 AMG on the highway and after beating it easily, was told by members of this forum that the C32 must have been broken or the driver didn't know what he was doing. I was also laughed at when I told people I was doing 0-60 MPH in 4.5 seconds according to the built in timer that comes on '07 SRT-8s. Lastly, a bunch of people started magazine racing and quoting obscure sources which put the SRT-8 nowhere near my 4.5 second 0-60 MPH times...
Well I finally had a chance to take Maggie to the local dragstrip in Englishtown, NJ. She ran a 12.802 @ 109.12 and then backed it up with a 12.9 @ 108 on the second pass. I'm pretty happy with these numbers considering the car is 100% bone stock with no modifications whatsoever. It even still has the temp tags on it.
On my 12.802 pass, the 0-60 MPH according to the car's built in EVIC was a 4.45. I think with more practice, I can cut a mid to high 1.8 60ft and run a 12.6 to 12.7 in cooler air at Atco. Not too shabby for a 4400lb naturally aspirated family wagon!!!
Here are all the specs:
2007 Dodge Magnum SRT-8 w/3200 miles on the odo
No options except option package #2 (air filtration, automatic headlights, etc)
Track elevation: 70ft above sea level
Outside temperature: 71°F
Barometric Pressure: 29.43 In.
Dewpoint: 55°F
Density Altitude: 1617ft
Race weight including driver: 4388lbs
Please don't be a hater on this thread. Remember, afterall, this car is comprised of a LOT of Mercedes-Benz parts, including the trans and rear end.
Click here for the 12.8 @ 109 video.
As some of you may recall, I recently ran a Stage II C32 AMG on the highway and after beating it easily, was told by members of this forum that the C32 must have been broken or the driver didn't know what he was doing. I was also laughed at when I told people I was doing 0-60 MPH in 4.5 seconds according to the built in timer that comes on '07 SRT-8s. Lastly, a bunch of people started magazine racing and quoting obscure sources which put the SRT-8 nowhere near my 4.5 second 0-60 MPH times...
Well I finally had a chance to take Maggie to the local dragstrip in Englishtown, NJ. She ran a 12.802 @ 109.12 and then backed it up with a 12.9 @ 108 on the second pass. I'm pretty happy with these numbers considering the car is 100% bone stock with no modifications whatsoever. It even still has the temp tags on it.
On my 12.802 pass, the 0-60 MPH according to the car's built in EVIC was a 4.45. I think with more practice, I can cut a mid to high 1.8 60ft and run a 12.6 to 12.7 in cooler air at Atco. Not too shabby for a 4400lb naturally aspirated family wagon!!!
Here are all the specs:
2007 Dodge Magnum SRT-8 w/3200 miles on the odo
No options except option package #2 (air filtration, automatic headlights, etc)
Track elevation: 70ft above sea level
Outside temperature: 71°F
Barometric Pressure: 29.43 In.
Dewpoint: 55°F
Density Altitude: 1617ft
Race weight including driver: 4388lbs
Please don't be a hater on this thread. Remember, afterall, this car is comprised of a LOT of Mercedes-Benz parts, including the trans and rear end.
Click here for the 12.8 @ 109 video.
Just to keep the theme of this thread going, here's a $5000 ****-box doing 10.24@138.
http://www.mnsportcompacts.net/forum...39&postcount=1
Anyone have any others to share?
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Marc - Good job with the maggie! It's a fast vehicle and deserves more than you are getting here.
Guys - Give the dude a break....he is car enthusiast like us and is just trying to prove a point (even though it shouldn't be here Marc
).
Our C32's are very heat sensitive cars. In fact, I took mine back to the dyno yesterday and ended up with a -30WHP loss due to heat. I dynoed the car less than 2 weeks ago on the same dyno, with a cooler car (sat for hours), and pulled the +30WHP higher numbers.
So, in a real world situation, he has the faster, more consistent car...period. The C32 is like an out of shape boxer..... it can hit hard but gets tired quickly and can easily be beaten over multiple runs.
I think that we should focus on a better cooling system for our car so we can make multiple back to back runs in 95° weather against these cars.
Marc - From my experience, a C32 should never sit before a race, especially when warm. The cars cooling system doesn't function when it's turned off and it will continue to heak soak. If the C32 you raced sat after it did runs with an Evo, the car will not make full power. With that said, I still think that you would have beaten him 3 out of 5 runs.
Is that your friend that had the C32? If so, could you arrange another race with the C32 cold or cooler? I would love to see real world changes as the cars warms up. I bet that the C32 would win the first 2, and then you would pull on the last 3.
Guys - Give the dude a break....he is car enthusiast like us and is just trying to prove a point (even though it shouldn't be here Marc
).Our C32's are very heat sensitive cars. In fact, I took mine back to the dyno yesterday and ended up with a -30WHP loss due to heat. I dynoed the car less than 2 weeks ago on the same dyno, with a cooler car (sat for hours), and pulled the +30WHP higher numbers.
So, in a real world situation, he has the faster, more consistent car...period. The C32 is like an out of shape boxer..... it can hit hard but gets tired quickly and can easily be beaten over multiple runs.
I think that we should focus on a better cooling system for our car so we can make multiple back to back runs in 95° weather against these cars.
Marc - From my experience, a C32 should never sit before a race, especially when warm. The cars cooling system doesn't function when it's turned off and it will continue to heak soak. If the C32 you raced sat after it did runs with an Evo, the car will not make full power. With that said, I still think that you would have beaten him 3 out of 5 runs.
Is that your friend that had the C32? If so, could you arrange another race with the C32 cold or cooler? I would love to see real world changes as the cars warms up. I bet that the C32 would win the first 2, and then you would pull on the last 3.
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^^^ I have no problem with the mag - lots of cars are faster than our C32s and I can appreciate any car and I do think our fellow C32ers who take it personally are just feeding a troll. But trolling is trolling and to come on and start another thread just to poke his head in the door just to stick out his tongue at us...well that's just annoying clutter.
I mean, I don't go on a Chrysler board and start a thread entitled "Video of me in a bone stock C32 getting more ***** than my friend with a 7th gen k-car".
FWIW I think these new Chryslers are great and obviously fast. Plus that's probably some good driving from those drag times, no disrespect there.
I mean, I don't go on a Chrysler board and start a thread entitled "Video of me in a bone stock C32 getting more ***** than my friend with a 7th gen k-car".
FWIW I think these new Chryslers are great and obviously fast. Plus that's probably some good driving from those drag times, no disrespect there.
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BTW, trap speeds don't tell the whole story when racing from a highway roll. Picture two cars that both trap at 109 in the 1/4 mile. One car has a top end of 175 while the other only goes 160. They do a pull from 80 to 150 and despite their 109 trap speeds, the one that has a 175 top end cleans the clocks of the one that goes 160. A lot can happen PAST the trap speed.
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[QUOTE=AMG-Jerry;2398834]Marc - Good job with the maggie! It's a fast vehicle and deserves more than you are getting here.
Guys - Give the dude a break....he is car enthusiast like us and is just trying to prove a point (even though it shouldn't be here Marc).
Our C32's are very heat sensitive cars. In fact, I took mine back to the dyno yesterday and ended up with a -30WHP loss due to heat. I dynoed the car less than 2 weeks ago on the same dyno, with a cooler car (sat for hours), and pulled the +30WHP higher numbers.
Hey AMG-Jerry
I have notning but respect for car nuts, ALL CAR NUTS
And yes I do value ALL opions. I just hate when someone crashs a board to bring up a useless point. SO what if he beat one of our toys. I have beaten a vette becuase he blow it off the line. Any car can beat any other car on any given day. And yes I did mean congrats on his GREAT stock time.
Okay, my real reason to posting to you is about our SO CALLED heat soak. I just ran 4 20 minute sesions at Beaverun during a 90 some degree with 80 some percent humidity during the middle of the day with only 20 minutes between runs, and my blower NEVER cut out
Yes I am still stock, although pullies are on there way, I was just wondering how quick your blower cuts out? My only mod is a new HE pump, and of course K/N's
AM I just lucky or is this heat soak issue questionable
Give me some facts about your toy please
See yeah
PS: I REALLY have enjoyed your post about, heads, cams and polishing, wonderful stuff my friend and wish you nothing but GOOD LUCK finishing her off and your new event
Guys - Give the dude a break....he is car enthusiast like us and is just trying to prove a point (even though it shouldn't be here Marc
).Our C32's are very heat sensitive cars. In fact, I took mine back to the dyno yesterday and ended up with a -30WHP loss due to heat. I dynoed the car less than 2 weeks ago on the same dyno, with a cooler car (sat for hours), and pulled the +30WHP higher numbers.
Hey AMG-Jerry
I have notning but respect for car nuts, ALL CAR NUTS
And yes I do value ALL opions. I just hate when someone crashs a board to bring up a useless point. SO what if he beat one of our toys. I have beaten a vette becuase he blow it off the line. Any car can beat any other car on any given day. And yes I did mean congrats on his GREAT stock time.
Okay, my real reason to posting to you is about our SO CALLED heat soak. I just ran 4 20 minute sesions at Beaverun during a 90 some degree with 80 some percent humidity during the middle of the day with only 20 minutes between runs, and my blower NEVER cut out
Yes I am still stock, although pullies are on there way, I was just wondering how quick your blower cuts out? My only mod is a new HE pump, and of course K/N's
AM I just lucky or is this heat soak issue questionable
Give me some facts about your toy please
See yeah
PS: I REALLY have enjoyed your post about, heads, cams and polishing, wonderful stuff my friend and wish you nothing but GOOD LUCK finishing her off and your new event
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^^^ It's not so much the SC cutting out, it just gets slower from the hot air going in. I ran into this just doing autox - hot day of course, but still...the thing just started to dog later in the day...the SC was still working, the car was just a slug though.
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I understand the concept, but I can tell you that during my 20 minute sesions, I was consistantly passing Mustangs, camaero's, BMW on the straight aways the ENTIRE time. Plus I have a data logger for the course, and my speeds reamined constant throughout the sesion as well. I ran consistant 1:10's , after I had the feel for the car.
And my straight away speeds stayed at 125 on the back and 118 on the front ALL DAY LONG.
This is why I am buying the pullies, and I REALLY quiestion this HEAT SOAK ISSUE.
If the intercooler was gradualy heating up, my straight away speeds should have gradualy decreased. But this was NOT the case.\
FYI
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Marc, would you do me a big favor. Since the admins don't seem fit to actually control the board in any way, could you at least post in the appropriate forum? Is that too much to ask? There is a forum specifically for this kind of garbage. Seriously, I, along with many other people could care less about you and your station wagon. It pretty much mucks up a perfectly good forum. Once again, I will report this post to the admins in the hopes that someone cares about maintaining some kind of order here.
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No, it's not. Your blower should never cut out, unless your car is overheating or IAT's are off the chart.
When our car reaches a certain point (heat soaked), the ECU will begin to pull timing to avoid misfires and detonation. When this happens, you car can lose as much as 50WHP, if not more.
I use datalogging software / hardware and I can pinpoint when it starts to happen. For me, it is when I'm stuck in traffic on a warm to hot day.
I took my car to the dyno yesterday and it was mid 90's outside with 30% humidity. My car put down -30Whp less than normal and it didn't feel any slower than it did 10 days ago when I put down more power.
If you are doing runs from 0-110 over and over, the car will heat soak.
If you are running your car around the track, and there is enough air flowing through the system, then it might not.
The only way to prove is on the dyno or with data logging. You should pick up a CarChip (http://www.davisnet.com/drive/produc...asp?pnum=08226). Plug this guy in while your car is cold and leave it in until you are done running at the track. Send me the files and I'll show you where and when your car starts to lose power.
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I saw the other thread go on and on with bench racing. It was boring and childish on most everyone's part IMHO. Your car is fast and that's great. I like all kinds of cars and can appreciate more than just one car.
My biggest question is why do you name your car Maggie or anything else for that matter. Do you think people know what "Maggie" is?
My biggest question is why do you name your car Maggie or anything else for that matter. Do you think people know what "Maggie" is?
