e240TT

Hi Guys, i need some help from fellow friends here, although i am not driving a c class, i am driving a e class, its a 2.6l m112 and i believe one of the first succesfull in twin turbocharging it, i have a few matters that needs our fellow friends help

1) LSD, Anyone know if quaife lsd has a application similar that would fit my car, my vin number starts with WDB2110612A which is a Right Hand Drive and all cars which is 0612A should have the same differential.

2) CAMS, Anyone know where i can find some better flow cams which are meant for force induction ?

3) Used C32 Engine and Gearbox. <-- another idea slip up my mind, TwinCharge, i'd lower the supercharger boost and let the turbo kick in at the highend ? :P

Please help thanks.

msheredy

http://www.crower.com/ for your cam needs. They make top notch stuff and they'll do custom ground or regrind your existing cams. Either way they'll need all the engine specifications you can give them in order to properly configure your valve train.

SilverBulletAMG

Someone posted a new thread on a used complete engine for a C32. I believe it was just under $6k for the works. Mileage was around 80k-90k miles. Thread title with link was something along the lines of, "Anyone need a spare", if you're interested....

Edit: Found the thread HERE.

TemjinX2

seems liek a decent deal...comes with 90day warranty too.

maverik259

doesnt seem like alot of power for a twin turbo v6...my stock 350z had 305...i woulda thought an amg 6cyl woulda done more especially with a bi-turbo...what does a typical c32 run power wise?

turbo16lbs

He is running only 7.5lbs making 300HP. Just turn up the boost

TemjinX2

did you read the thread at all? he has a 2.6L v6 originally outputting 170hp to the crank. He twin turboed it and got 296rwhp..which is closer to 370hp to the crank.

Your 305hp 350z is probably putting down closer to 244rwhp.

He doesnt have a amg engine..he's looking for amg engine.

Read comprehension > you

maverik259

i thought this was about adapting a c32?

TemjinX2

it was originally about a turbo conversion by let, but they gave up. Then e240tt started posting about his e240 tt conversion which is the same as c240 engine.

This is more closer to adapting your c240 and making it a tt then for a c32. He saying he wants a c32 engien because he thinks he would be hitting closer to 500whp with a c32 engine with similar mods. I tend to agree with him.

c32used

+1

e240TT

hey all my friends, peace peace.

e240TT

Oh Yah Guys , for the C32 THat would like to convert to turbo, i got a solution for u guys.

This is what i will do.

Since the C32 has limited space, there is a way to do this.

Remove the charger, Where the charger sit is where i will put a GT3076R Garrett Turbo,

equal length (NON LOC TYPE) exhaust headers will be made to blow the turbo .

By the way i forgot to mention the turbo will be the other way round, inlet facing towards the inside, bend a pipe for intake out towards the right side of the engine, 2 x laminova inercooler water-air cores on each side of intake with custom intake runners which is connected to the throttle body, and the turbo will blow in the throttle body directly. downpipe is then rerouted to the bottom of the car via the side "without steering shaft" in my case , my steering shaft is opposite you guys in the usa.

at 1.4 bar of boost, i am looking at hp towards the end of 400 and bout 500nm~600nm of torque.

THis is my idea, and i will hapilly do it for anyone if the car is here in malaysia, i run a workshop here, the only thing we don't have, is the machine to tune the original ecu, which otherwise we are already making very fast cars here, we normally run motec standalone in all of them.

For mY mercedes now i am using 2 unit of ecu combined, cause i need some functions from 1 and some from the other. i am using a aem f/ic 8 unit by utilizing the maf clamp, analog a clamp to clamp the B28 pressure sensor and the O2 clamp to clamp the o2. i am also running the injectors and ignition retarding function via this ecu. the 2nd one is a powermod unit, its the first unit i use and its good but lack of tuning points as the tuning points is not customizable like the f/ic 8, i use the unit to advance 10 degree of ignition timing via the crank wire and use the f/ic 8 to retard it back hence giving me the option of advancing. i run 6 x 310cc injector i took out from a 2006 350z tune up version with the f/ic 8. and another 4 x 180cc original injector where i use it to feed extra fuel "did i mention earlier i have a wet shot of nos as well ? and water injection" since the powermod have water injection and nitrous control its perfect for my application.

I have a PS Unit controlling the fuel pump voltage to give it 16~18v when i am over 0.4 bar of boost and when water injection or nos or both is running.

How i wish if i can get my hands on a tool that can tune the factory ecu.

i am a ecutek dealer over here but they don't have applications for mercedes, i also wonder what LET and VRP uses as well....

TemjinX2

thanks for the all the tips e240tt. I think it would be easier if you reposted your build posts as a separate thread on the w203 as a c240 conversion. If you run a shop, i think a separate thread would create more interest in potential customers.

I wish someone would do a turbo conversion for the c32, but i dont think anyone wants to be the first and pay for all the R & D.

e240TT

if the car is here, r&d is f.o.c, just pay for parts.

from manifold to everything, we can do it here ourselfs, no need to pass to anyone or anywhere...

we are already building tones of 1000hp cars which are just 3litre .. RB26DETT for example (3L Displacement")

this is just my interest... many people say u can't do mercedes bla bla, u can't piggyback, u can't trck, u can't do custom turbo kit, u can't this, u can't that and i got fedup. someone even challenged me that i can't fit my turbos in cause its too big when i started my project, although it took 10 months cause lack of personal time on my side as its a personal project, but its completed. somehow i understand how the ecu is running now, i am working with haltech and they may be able to help mebuild a plug and play mercedes ecu that will standalone ignition timing and fuel and the others without CEL, if that works, its a whole new level of power. with full control of the ecu i will be pushing the car to limits, for example, a knock of 40% is acceptable and won't destroy the engine, the factory ecu now throw bloody cel when my knock is above 28%, i have a standalone knock module hooked up to check it :P

i saw the $6k engine and tranny deal, very temptated but its over budget for me. this are all personal projects ...

TemjinX2

yeah i know japanese cars are a lot easier to mod. If you were in the US, i'm sure you would have a lot of happy customers at your door step. Props for the build.

e240TT

Well, i am negotiating a deal for the engine n tranny u saw on ebay now.

if the deal works out. u guys will see a twincharged M112K engine

i'd properly put a clutch to disengage the amg supercharger once the turbo is on full boost.

still thinking :P

SilverBulletAMG

Awesome! Hope it works out. If you do that, definitely start a new thread so we can follow along.

e240TT

yeap.

OJwerks

I love that your project was successful but it would be SO nice to see some Real pictures of the damn thing and maybe even a small video clip ? remember, i dont think not 1 of us has ever seen a "twin turbo m112"

e240TT

i will do the video clip today.

but its kindof hard to see the turbo from the top, i would need to jack the car up.
as the turbo is below.

maybe some sound clip as well when the turbo is sucking ?

bro oj, can you dome a favour if you got time ? help me make a thread and transfer photos over :P

hehe

Dykemyster

What happened to this thread? Did the Twin Turbo C32 have final dyno? I hope they finish the project as it seemed like an awesome but difficult idea.

TemjinX2

LET never finished theres, the two owners parted ways. E240tt did his own twin turbo setup. Thats what we were talking about last coupel of pages.

pshek

Those are interesting ideas that I would like to see happen. I was actually thinking about using the FIC-8 for fuel and ignition timing. My shop installed one on a C55 and made some good power with it.

e240TT

F/Ic 8 has a drawback.....

it can't advance ignition timing.

pshek

Thanks for telling us. It would be good if it could do both, but I think you normally want to retard timing for forced induction cars.