Maybe is a noob question...can c32 add blow off value(bov)?
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Maybe is a noob question...can c32 add blow off value(bov)?
hi everyone I just search on youtube there is a c32 video with blow off value sound...just wondering can c32 add bov...as i know is for turbo car only...thankyou for answering...
the link is(the sound start at 2:00)...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhaHCNoN_9I
but i think is not a c32...only display to 260km...
the link is(the sound start at 2:00)...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhaHCNoN_9I
but i think is not a c32...only display to 260km...
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I have never heard of a supercharged car ever having a BOV. Are you sure you didnt just hear the loud supercharger whine? There are fake BOV sound machines out there for posers... but I doubt a C32 owner would be so dumb as to do that.
Mind putting out a link of the video?
Mind putting out a link of the video?
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Blowers DO NOT NEED this valve, as the boost is directly porportinal to the blower size/rpm. Turbos use this to PREVENT overboost, this CAN'T happen on our cars since the blower is sized properly to limit the boost across the rpm range, ie constant boost pressure from 2000-6000. I guess if you were trying to be a poser you could add one to be a teenager again, but again, WHY
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I have never heard of a supercharged car ever having a BOV. Are you sure you didnt just hear the loud supercharger whine? There are fake BOV sound machines out there for posers... but I doubt a C32 owner would be so dumb as to do that.
Mind putting out a link of the video?
Mind putting out a link of the video?
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On my supercharged 97' LT4 camaro, I have a Bypass valve. It's made by vortech. However, my blower is a centrifugal unit, not a roots style one, or whatever you would call the one the c32 has..
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Also, keep in mind that centrifiguls build boost with RPM, the faster you spin them, the more boost you get. 2000 rpm =2 pounds, 3000 rpm= 4 pounds, etc, etc. Yes it does vary from blower to blower. This is just an example, so yours may be different.
Large blowers do have a blow off valve built into them, example a Weiand 6-71. This valve IS NOT for over boost, it is designed as a safety valve in the event of a back fire in the engine so that it does not damage the blower.
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The better question is WHY
Blowers DO NOT NEED this valve, as the boost is directly porportinal to the blower size/rpm. Turbos use this to PREVENT overboost, this CAN'T happen on our cars since the blower is sized properly to limit the boost across the rpm range, ie constant boost pressure from 2000-6000. I guess if you were trying to be a poser you could add one to be a teenager again, but again, WHY
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Blowers DO NOT NEED this valve, as the boost is directly porportinal to the blower size/rpm. Turbos use this to PREVENT overboost, this CAN'T happen on our cars since the blower is sized properly to limit the boost across the rpm range, ie constant boost pressure from 2000-6000. I guess if you were trying to be a poser you could add one to be a teenager again, but again, WHY
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Blow off valves (atmospherically dumped) / Bypass valves (rerouting back
to the source) recycles the kompressed air to the inlet of the charger
instead of outlet, which causes anti-surge ie: damaging the s/c or turbo.
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Turbo application uses internal / external wastegates to prevent overboost.
Blow off valves (atmospherically dumped) / Bypass valves (rerouting back
to the source) recycles the kompressed air to the inlet of the charger
instead of outlet, which causes anti-surge ie: damaging the s/c or turbo.
Blow off valves (atmospherically dumped) / Bypass valves (rerouting back
to the source) recycles the kompressed air to the inlet of the charger
instead of outlet, which causes anti-surge ie: damaging the s/c or turbo.
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But they do use blow off valves in racing on turbos to also prevent cheating, ie boosting past the regs
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Turbo application uses internal / external wastegates to prevent overboost.
Blow off valves (atmospherically dumped) / Bypass valves (rerouting back
to the source) recycles the kompressed air to the inlet of the charger
instead of outlet, which causes anti-surge ie: damaging the s/c or turbo.
* BINGO* another type of supercharger functions with a BOV is VORTEC system.
Blow off valves (atmospherically dumped) / Bypass valves (rerouting back
to the source) recycles the kompressed air to the inlet of the charger
instead of outlet, which causes anti-surge ie: damaging the s/c or turbo.
* BINGO* another type of supercharger functions with a BOV is VORTEC system.
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gives the team with more money and more engineering resource an advantage. therefore A1GP is most exciting to watch right now other than my favorite WRC. lol
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hi everyone I just search on youtube there is a c32 video with blow off value sound...just wondering can c32 add bov...as i know is for turbo car only...thankyou for answering...
the link is(the sound start at 2:00)...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhaHCNoN_9I
but i think is not a c32...only display to 260km...
the link is(the sound start at 2:00)...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhaHCNoN_9I
but i think is not a c32...only display to 260km...
This is a MORE realistic BOV on a C32 AMG (which I'm still trying to figure
out how he did it, yes he's a member here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROtgZfeDZNs
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That sound was "added" into the video
This is a MORE realistic BOV on a C32 AMG (which I'm still trying to figure
out how he did it, yes he's a member here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROtgZfeDZNs
This is a MORE realistic BOV on a C32 AMG (which I'm still trying to figure
out how he did it, yes he's a member here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROtgZfeDZNs
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On a street car yes, and YES a wastegate is used to control boost. However CHAMP car racing uses a Blow off valve that is given to them PRIOR to the race by an official to prevent ANY team from trying to run MORE boost than the rules allow. So, the BLOW off valve , in this case DOES control/limit boost.
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Guys, I AGREE with you here, I am just stating one uniquie point of use, please don't beat me up on this. I helped out the Andreties in 92-95 at the Cleavland Grad Prix, NO I was NOT part of their team, I just met Michael at the Hotel and bought him some drinks, and he let me in his pits for a couple of years, LONG story.
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Guys, I AGREE with you here, I am just stating one uniquie point of use, please don't beat me up on this. I helped out the Andreties in 92-95 at the Cleavland Grad Prix, NO I was NOT part of their team, I just met Michael at the Hotel and bought him some drinks, and he let me in his pits for a couple of years, LONG story.
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On a street car yes, and YES a wastegate is used to control boost. However CHAMP car racing uses a Blow off valve that is given to them PRIOR to the race by an official to prevent ANY team from trying to run MORE boost than the rules allow. So, the BLOW off valve , in this case DOES control/limit boost.
See yeah
Guys, I AGREE with you here, I am just stating one uniquie point of use, please don't beat me up on this. I helped out the Andreties in 92-95 at the Cleavland Grad Prix, NO I was NOT part of their team, I just met Michael at the Hotel and bought him some drinks, and he let me in his pits for a couple of years, LONG story.
See yeah
Guys, I AGREE with you here, I am just stating one uniquie point of use, please don't beat me up on this. I helped out the Andreties in 92-95 at the Cleavland Grad Prix, NO I was NOT part of their team, I just met Michael at the Hotel and bought him some drinks, and he let me in his pits for a couple of years, LONG story.
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That sound was "added" into the video
This is a MORE realistic BOV on a C32 AMG (which I'm still trying to figure
out how he did it, yes he's a member here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROtgZfeDZNs
This is a MORE realistic BOV on a C32 AMG (which I'm still trying to figure
out how he did it, yes he's a member here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROtgZfeDZNs
The vid you suggested sounds more like a BOV. Personally I don't know how a BOV should work properly with a supercharger. Isn't the SC clutch is already doing this job?
With a nice pulley, the car already sound awesome. What more do we need?
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I think the sound was "added" too. The sound of a C32 does not sound like it is in the vid. The car did not accelerate the way it should after reving it for a few gears.
The vid you suggested sounds more like a BOV. Personally I don't know how a BOV should work properly with a supercharger. Isn't the SC clutch is already doing this job?
With a nice pulley, the car already sound awesome. What more do we need?
The vid you suggested sounds more like a BOV. Personally I don't know how a BOV should work properly with a supercharger. Isn't the SC clutch is already doing this job?
With a nice pulley, the car already sound awesome. What more do we need?
edit: maybe a ricer?
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Your thinking of a POP OFF VALVE not a Blow off Valve.A pop off valve opens when the set pressure is exceeded in the manifold. A blow off valve is a vacuum-actuated valve designed to release pressure in the intake system of a turbocharged or centrifugally supercharged car when the throttle is lifted or closed.
Forgive me, I only have used and LOVE Positive displacement superchargers, ie BOTTOM END TORQUE.
SORRY
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