LSD what are my options?
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LSD what are my options?
My plan of attack is to build the suspension, wheels, LSD, and brakes before i get in to motor, we all know there's cars a quick out of the box, so i will leave the motor for last I got my ideas for brakes, suspension, but I'm not sure what my options are for an Limited slip dif. I know LET has one, but i dont know of others. And what is the life span of an aftermarket LSD?
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i'm just a fan of being able to stop a car better than stock. I want drilled rotors all around and big fat brakes for the front. I felt when i was at the drags stopping from 100+mph was a bit of a challenge. brakes seemed to get (I'm not sure how to say it) mushy under heavy braking... So some nice big brake calipers and bigger front and read rotors is what i'm thinking.... just a fan of good brakes
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I've heard of some people trying the Hawks and having good experiences. Akebono and Porterfield seem to get good comments here. I tried the EBC Redstuff and didn't like them so much.
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Quaife is gaurenteed for life, so that should solve any longevity issues. But it does come at a RIDICULOUS price, IMHO. About $2200.00 istalled
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As far as the brakes, there is NO way you faded them from 1 stop at the drags. I road race my C32, and they can REALLY take a pounding before they fade. AS the man said, THEY ARE MORE THAN ADEQUATE. Save your money my friend, unless you are a REAL die hard road racer, your wasting ALOT of money for a minimal gain in this department.
Heck, I am not changing anything on my brakes, except pads, and I live 5 miles from my track and go whenever they will let me on. I only faded mine once, after a 20 minute sesion trying to keep up to a Z06, my fault, NOT THE BRAKES. I was driving WAY too hard, thinking I was in my old race car.
Suspension, go NUTS, coil overs, bigger bars, camber plates, your wallet is the only limit here
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Quaife by all I read and been told seems to be the best.....I am not to aware of Kleemans right now. I agree with MrAMG1 on SUSPENSION...but I say get into the motor first then build around it. Things like big brakes are good if you add more power and suspension helps to keep power down to ground. You can add the Quaife anytime but only do it if you want to take those precious tenths off your quarter or if you AutoX....the stock brakes as e1000 said are quite adequate at handling your current power...try different pads first then see if they feel mushy still.
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[QUOTE=MRAMG1;2738224Heck, I am not changing anything on my brakes, except pads, and I live 5 miles from my track and go whenever they will let me on. I only faded mine once, after a 20 minute sesion trying to keep up to a Z06, my fault, NOT THE BRAKES. I was driving WAY too hard, thinking I was in my old race car.
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I've had good luck with EBC Yellowstuff (a race-capable pad) and EBC Red Ceramics. One stop from 100 MPH should not strain any brake setup. If anything, you might be experiencing a lack of bite because the brakes are cold. Getting bigger rotors would make that situation WORSE.
My view on big brake packages has been enlighted by my experience with my 944. There are two 944 spec racing series' that specify stock rotors and calipers, and these cars run very competitively without problems. And these are MUCH smaller than our C32 setup (ONE piston!).
As said, for a heavier car running a LOT of high speed race tracks, you might benefit from a big brake setup; but don't count on it. Check out StopTech which offers two "big brake" options for our cars. One of the two is actually SMALLER than the OEM when you measure swept area, and the other is only slightly larger than stock.
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I've had good luck with EBC Yellowstuff (a race-capable pad) and EBC Red Ceramics. One stop from 100 MPH should not strain any brake setup. If anything, you might be experiencing a lack of bite because the brakes are cold. Getting bigger rotors would make that situation WORSE.
My view on big brake packages has been enlighted by my experience with my 944. There are two 944 spec racing series' that specify stock rotors and calipers, and these cars run very competitively without problems. And these are MUCH smaller than our C32 setup (ONE piston!).
As said, for a heavier car running a LOT of high speed race tracks, you might benefit from a big brake setup; but don't count on it. Check out StopTech which offers two "big brake" options for our cars. One of the two is actually SMALLER than the OEM when you measure swept area, and the other is only slightly larger than stock.
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I've had good luck with EBC Yellowstuff (a race-capable pad) and EBC Red Ceramics. One stop from 100 MPH should not strain any brake setup. If anything, you might be experiencing a lack of bite because the brakes are cold. Getting bigger rotors would make that situation WORSE.
As said, for a heavier car running a LOT of high speed race tracks, you might benefit from a big brake setup; but don't count on it. Check out StopTech which offers two "big brake" options for our cars. One of the two is actually SMALLER than the OEM when you measure swept area, and the other is only slightly larger than stock.
As said, for a heavier car running a LOT of high speed race tracks, you might benefit from a big brake setup; but don't count on it. Check out StopTech which offers two "big brake" options for our cars. One of the two is actually SMALLER than the OEM when you measure swept area, and the other is only slightly larger than stock.
Hey Fifth. +1
Thanks for the positive review on EBC, as I have been leaning towards them, the Red Cermaics to help on the dreaded brake dust issue. I'll Keep you posted as my first Beaverun event is soon
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Thanks for the positive review on EBC, as I have been leaning towards them, the Red Cermaics to help on the dreaded brake dust issue. I'll Keep you posted as my first Beaverun event is soon![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
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PS: can't wait to see if the pulley/HE helps me at all, or hurts me if you know what I mean![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
Thanks for the positive review on EBC, as I have been leaning towards them, the Red Cermaics to help on the dreaded brake dust issue. I'll Keep you posted as my first Beaverun event is soon
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PS: can't wait to see if the pulley/HE helps me at all, or hurts me if you know what I mean
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While it's been more than a few years since I've tracked cars, but back in the day if you needed a decent track brake pad you had to live with very poor braking when cold. Assuming that things haven't changed a whole lot, I'd think that you wouldn't want a track pad for the strip as they take at least one hard stop to get warm.
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EBC had an older "Red" formula that was not ceramic, and it got some **** poor reviews. So that reputation has carried over to the new ceramics. I ran Reds on track and my only complaint was that they could pick up a "glaze" making them not very grippy until hot. I put EBC Yellows on the C32 about 8 months ago in anticipation of a track day that never happened, and I've had them on ever since. They're a great street pad, and supposedly they work for the track too. They do spit out a lot of dust.
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While it's been more than a few years since I've tracked cars, but back in the day if you needed a decent track brake pad you had to live with very poor braking when cold. Assuming that things haven't changed a whole lot, I'd think that you wouldn't want a track pad for the strip as they take at least one hard stop to get warm.
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Anyway, your right, save track pads for just that RAOD courses. They do make some really good double duty pads now, like the ones mentioned above for example. But if you are strickly draggin, you don't want or need a road racing pad as the stock pads are just FINE for this application.
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While it's been more than a few years since I've tracked cars, but back in the day if you needed a decent track brake pad you had to live with very poor braking when cold. Assuming that things haven't changed a whole lot, I'd think that you wouldn't want a track pad for the strip as they take at least one hard stop to get warm.
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I'm just delighted to see someone going after LSD, suspension and (possibly) brakes BEFORE throwing a pulley/reflash/headers/etc on a car that already has traction and handling issues. I applaud your efforts!
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I upgraded my diff to the Quaife LSD on my C32, and after the upgrade, I've hammered the car on the street and at countless track events with absolutely no problems. Quaife guarantee's their LSDs for life, and have excellent customer service.
As for brakes, many people on the E55 seem to recommend Porterfield and some have reported very good experiences.
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I upgraded my diff to the Quaife LSD on my C32, and after the upgrade, I've hammered the car on the street and at countless track events with absolutely no problems. Quaife guarantee's their LSDs for life, and have excellent customer service.
As for brakes, many people on the E55 seem to recommend Porterfield and some have reported very good experiences.
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My plan of attack is to build the suspension, wheels, LSD, and brakes before i get in to motor, we all know there's cars a quick out of the box, so i will leave the motor for last I got my ideas for brakes, suspension, but I'm not sure what my options are for an Limited slip dif. I know LET has one, but i dont know of others. And what is the life span of an aftermarket LSD?
Rear rotors on C32 and C55 are a disappointment.
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