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C63 V c32 v ISF Qtr Mile times
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It seems nobody has mentioned the C63s far better build quality, the W203 is an old car with questionable build quality and lots of reliability issues, the C63 will not face any of those issues. Just b/c a C32 is almost as fast, does not mean its almost as good... it simply is not.
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Let's just say that our old C32s and C55s are amazing cars and leave it at that. Add some mods and they become an even greater value.
I'm still in love with mine and I've only just begun to add goodies.
The way I see it, because nothing has come out below 70K that I even really want, my 32 keeps me happy and satisfied and prevents me from feeling the need to spend butloads of money on a car that though better in every way, is not so much better as to force a visit to the dealership to get one, at least not yet.
So hey, it's saving me money. Gotta love that!
I'm still in love with mine and I've only just begun to add goodies.
The way I see it, because nothing has come out below 70K that I even really want, my 32 keeps me happy and satisfied and prevents me from feeling the need to spend butloads of money on a car that though better in every way, is not so much better as to force a visit to the dealership to get one, at least not yet.
So hey, it's saving me money. Gotta love that!
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I believe I've seen it posted that the C32 tranny is the same as the S/C'ed E55 tranny - which has had somewhere in the ballpark of 700 hp thrown at it I believe (whether or not any reinforcements were added, I am not sure).
Anyone want to confirm if the m112k and m113k transmissions are the same or different?
Anyone want to confirm if the m112k and m113k transmissions are the same or different?
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It seems nobody has mentioned the C63s far better build quality, the W203 is an old car with questionable build quality and lots of reliability issues, the C63 will not face any of those issues. Just b/c a C32 is almost as fast, does not mean its almost as good... it simply is not.
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EDIT: I THINK YOU MEANT A C32 TRANNY RIGHT? NOW IS THE SRT6 THE SAME TRANS AS THE C32?
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I'm saying the c32 and srt6 share the same trans,and it can hold some power. As far as if E55 is the same?
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I generally don't post on this board, because I don't have a benz but could not help lending a thought to this thread. And as far as I know I have the quickest c32/slk32/x-fire on record! (Just to add some credibility, not gloating)
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Haha, no... it just evolved to "Is the C32 and E55 tranny the same, and if so, was the N/A E55 (version at time C32 was produced) the same tranny as the E55K (generally made after the C32), or was the E55K given an upgraded, stronger tranny? If the latter - what was the rated ft/lb of the N/A E55 tranny?"
Basically, all we really want to know here is "what is the max torque the C32 tranny rated to hold"???
Basically, all we really want to know here is "what is the max torque the C32 tranny rated to hold"???
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The C32 and E55 tranny is not exactly the same as the V12TT tranny's. The E55K uses the W5A900 -rated at 900Nm (664lbs-ft of TQ). The 600/65's use the W5A1000 - rated at 1000Nm (738lbs-ft of TQ). The C/SLK55 uses the W5A580 which is rated at 580Nm (428lbs-ft of TQ). I would imagine the C32 uses the same as the C55.
Here is a link to Kleemann's website detailing the ratings (in case you thought I was making this stuff up
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http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main/faq
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Here is a link to Kleemann's website detailing the ratings (in case you thought I was making this stuff up
).http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main/faq
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Not true.
You must compare the transmission model numbers to get an accurate picture. For example:
The C32 transmission has a designation code of 722.633 (Engine code 112.961). This transmission is also used on the W209 CLK500, early W211 E500, some SL 500 (early R230) and W140 and early W220 S500.
http://www.europeantransmissions.com...es.htm#C-Class
Meanwhile, the W203 C55 and W208/W209 CLK55 transmissions use the 722.636, shared with the N/A CL55 AMG and N/A S55 AMG. The CLK430 (M113 N/A) uses a different transmission.
Not saying my source is complete either, just that there are more variables than what has been previously listed. I'm certain definitive/verifiable information can be available through MB parts listings.
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I am seeing Qtr times on this forum of 12.4 to the low 13s at the worst for the C32 . I am also seeing trap speeds of 105-112?
The latest test I've seen of the C63 has the Qtr at 12.5 at 114.4. Do you realize that a very well "ripped" C32 is running real close to the C63 in the Qtr? ?? WOW, who would've thought?? I love it. Better than that, the modded C32s are about equal to the $70,000 Lexus ISF. Granted, the ISF is not modded, BUT to run with these guys (C63 and IS-F is awesome!!) Dragtimes has the ISF averaging about 12.8 to 13.2 at an average of about 111, so the C32 (moded) is running right with it. Woo hoo!!! Dragtimes is showing the C63 at 12.3 and 12.5 at 113.00 to 116.00. Again , the C32 is a whisker away from these times!! A stock C32 is equal to or beating the Audi RS 4!1 Eat this TIFOSI!!!!
Some of this info came from the June 2008 RT edition with the Ferrari California on the front where they comparison tested the C63 vs the ISF v the M3 and the Audi RS 4
The latest test I've seen of the C63 has the Qtr at 12.5 at 114.4. Do you realize that a very well "ripped" C32 is running real close to the C63 in the Qtr? ?? WOW, who would've thought?? I love it. Better than that, the modded C32s are about equal to the $70,000 Lexus ISF. Granted, the ISF is not modded, BUT to run with these guys (C63 and IS-F is awesome!!) Dragtimes has the ISF averaging about 12.8 to 13.2 at an average of about 111, so the C32 (moded) is running right with it. Woo hoo!!! Dragtimes is showing the C63 at 12.3 and 12.5 at 113.00 to 116.00. Again , the C32 is a whisker away from these times!! A stock C32 is equal to or beating the Audi RS 4!1 Eat this TIFOSI!!!!
Some of this info came from the June 2008 RT edition with the Ferrari California on the front where they comparison tested the C63 vs the ISF v the M3 and the Audi RS 4
The IS F comes fully loaded at 61K. Of course there might be some dealers trying to mark up the price a few grand but even still not 70k. Please show me a link, photo or something that shows a sticker price of 70k???
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Here's another link with some additional model/code details:
http://www.mobilverzeichnis.de/merce...rcodes_pkw.htm
http://www.mobilverzeichnis.de/merce...rcodes_pkw.htm
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http://www.europeantransmissions.com...es.htm#C-Class
Not saying my source is complete either, just that there are more variables than what has been previously listed. I'm certain definitive/verifiable information can be available through MB parts listings.
Not saying my source is complete either, just that there are more variables than what has been previously listed. I'm certain definitive/verifiable information can be available through MB parts listings.
It had one uniquie issue that doen't make sense to me, it list different prices for the same transmision under different cars
Are there uniquie tail cones/shift linakge/etc that justify different prices? Or are they simply price gouguing on more expensive cars?
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Thanks for the info Chappy
It had one uniquie issue that doen't make sense to me, it list different prices for the same transmision under different cars
Are there uniquie tail cones/shift linakge/etc that justify different prices? Or are they simply price gouguing on more expensive cars?
See yeah
It had one uniquie issue that doen't make sense to me, it list different prices for the same transmision under different cars
Are there uniquie tail cones/shift linakge/etc that justify different prices? Or are they simply price gouguing on more expensive cars?
See yeah
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I don't care cause there are always faster cars out there so for every fast car there is a faster car..take care.
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Uhhh the IS F would never cost 70k. Where in the world did you get this from? The IS F comes fully loaded at 61K. Of course there might be some dealers trying to mark up the price a few grand but even still not 70k. Please show me a link, photo or something that shows a sticker price of 70k???
The IS F comes fully loaded at 61K. Of course there might be some dealers trying to mark up the price a few grand but even still not 70k. Please show me a link, photo or something that shows a sticker price of 70k???OK, try getting a loaded one for 61K..................................Demand is a whole other issue. Show ME your contract for 61 K!!
Ever drive one!! car is a slug in my opinion. Once again, great trans, BUT engine, particularly from the dig, leaves a LOT to be desired. Would I buy one? NO!!! The almighty C63 is the current HOT car in that class (and you can get one of those for about 60K). This is without the dealer mark-up that we are seeing!! Note that I said "about" , so with TTL you're at $67,000.
Closer to $70 than $ 61!!!
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OK, try getting a loaded one for 61K..................................Demand is a whole other issue. Show ME your contract for 61 K!!
Ever drive one!! car is a slug in my opinion. Once again, great trans, BUT engine, particularly from the dig, leaves a LOT to be desired. Would I buy one? NO!!! The almighty C63 is the current HOT car in that class (and you can get one of those for about 60K). This is without the dealer mark-up that we are seeing!! Note that I said "about" , so with TTL you're at $67,000.
Closer to $70 than $ 61!!!
Available Packages
$5,395.00
• Navigation System/Mark Levinson Premium Audio Package with Additional Options
- Navigation System/Mark Levinson Premium Audio Package
- Intuitive Parking Assist
- Headlamp Washers
- Preferred Accessory Package
- XM® Satellite Radio
- All-weather floor mats
Accessory Options $0.00
• Intuitive Parking Assist Included
• Headlamp Washers Included
• XM® Satellite Radio Included
• All-weather floor mats Included
• Trunk Mat Included
• Wheel locks Included
• Cargo Net Included
Delivery, Processing & Handling Fee†
$765.00
Total MSRP** $62,160.00
Ever drive one!! car is a slug in my opinion. Once again, great trans, BUT engine, particularly from the dig, leaves a LOT to be desired. Would I buy one? NO!!! The almighty C63 is the current HOT car in that class (and you can get one of those for about 60K). This is without the dealer mark-up that we are seeing!! Note that I said "about" , so with TTL you're at $67,000.
Closer to $70 than $ 61!!!
Available Packages
$5,395.00
• Navigation System/Mark Levinson Premium Audio Package with Additional Options
- Navigation System/Mark Levinson Premium Audio Package
- Intuitive Parking Assist
- Headlamp Washers
- Preferred Accessory Package
- XM® Satellite Radio
- All-weather floor mats
Accessory Options $0.00
• Intuitive Parking Assist Included
• Headlamp Washers Included
• XM® Satellite Radio Included
• All-weather floor mats Included
• Trunk Mat Included
• Wheel locks Included
• Cargo Net Included
Delivery, Processing & Handling Fee†
$765.00
Total MSRP** $62,160.00
Ok Mr. wise guy....point well taken. Nevertheless, the F is a fine car and I'm sure it will be as reliable as most Lexus vehicles. Honestly I'd prefer a Lexus over a benz any day, simply because of the reliability factor. The reliability of a car is first and foremost the most important for ME (emphasis on me)
and quite frankly I am not impressed with my CLK 55 so far. Don't get me wrong, I like the style and everything else that Mercedes-Benz is about. I just can't stand for people to be bias and say negative things about other cars...especially when the two cars being compared aren't that much different performance wise. For the sake of argument let's call a truce Peace!!! because at the end of the day it's all subjective in what one likes or dislikes...and I like both cars....I've driven both and the IS F is a very fun car to drive....anyone that says otherwise is lol...j/k Newz..it's all good.
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I thought a video was good enough, posted above^^^ 10 or so posts back linked to youtube!!, but if slips are needed all located at dragtimes.com Check em out! Name-jeff Croy..............
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