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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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oil change question

other than the dealer and doing it yourself.... were do you guys get your oil changed at?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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I can tell you where I don't have it changed, at any of the quickie lube places. After the wife had two stripped drain plugs while I was away I've learned my lesson.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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I can tell you where I don't have it changed, at any of the quickie lube places. After the wife had two stripped drain plugs while I was away I've learned my lesson.
Yeah i wont go to those hacks
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hooleyboy
Yeah i wont go to those hacks
If not the quickie or the dealer, that pretty much leave a good independent tech. I hope you know of one in your town.

Personally, it was so easy to do it myself last time, I wouldn't bother taking it anywhere now.

Those oil extractors are great. No mess or fuss at all.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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+1 on finding a good Indy in your area. On the Benz I just have used the dealer as they were like $90.00. That was last fall though.

Does the extractor get just about all the oil out?

Originally Posted by ScottW911
If not the quickie or the dealer, that pretty much leave a good independent tech. I hope you know of one in your town.

Personally, it was so easy to do it myself last time, I wouldn't bother taking it anywhere now.

Those oil extractors are great. No mess or fuss at all.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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+1 on finding a good Indy in your area. On the Benz I just have used the dealer as they were like $90.00. That was last fall though.

Does the extractor get just about all the oil out?



NO, it gets out what the lil tube can get to and leaves the rest to mix into the new oil. I 've been using extractors for years with my boats and they never get out all of the old oil? In my car, I typically will pull the drain plug before bed, put a 3 X 5 card on the windshield reminding me that I am draining oil and refill in the morning. That way, I know I got about 99% of it out. Hate to say it, BUT am loving the Royal Purple.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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Im kinda good with my hands so doing an oil change is no out of the question. I was leaning to this but was a bit concerned as i've never used a pump to get the oil out. If i go buy one what does it look like? do i need to pull the drain plug too? of do i just suck it out from the dipstick hole? C55 takes 7qts???
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hooleyboy
Im kinda good with my hands so doing an oil change is no out of the question. I was leaning to this but was a bit concerned as i've never used a pump to get the oil out. If i go buy one what does it look like? do i need to pull the drain plug too? of do i just suck it out from the dipstick hole? C55 takes 7qts???

You DO not need to pull drain plug with the pump; Just hook it up and suck it out. I still don't believe that it gets it all, BUT that's just me. I've always been a fan of gravity to remove oil from the engine. Thus, the use of the good ole drain plug.
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Originally Posted by hooleyboy
Im kinda good with my hands so doing an oil change is no out of the question. I was leaning to this but was a bit concerned as i've never used a pump to get the oil out. If i go buy one what does it look like? do i need to pull the drain plug too? of do i just suck it out from the dipstick hole? C55 takes 7qts???
For mine, I just stuck the tube down the dipstick hole and let it go to work. I pulled all 7.75 quarts of oil that my computer said I had, out of my C32 in 10 minutes. If you pulled the plug, the pump could not work.

As I said, it is easy and clean. I did not even get any oil on my hands. The worst part is getting the extractor clean after you dispose of the oil.

This is the unit I purchased:
http://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7201-F...0904752&sr=8-2
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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Thanks

Royal Purple is very good oil.

Originally Posted by Newzchspy
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NO, it gets out what the lil tube can get to and leaves the rest to mix into the new oil. I 've been using extractors for years with my boats and they never get out all of the old oil? In my car, I typically will pull the drain plug before bed, put a 3 X 5 card on the windshield reminding me that I am draining oil and refill in the morning. That way, I know I got about 99% of it out. Hate to say it, BUT am loving the Royal Purple.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bud4ya
Thanks

Royal Purple is very good oil.
I agree too. Not to make this another RP thread but the reduction in heat over Mobil1 may not be any at all but still a very good syth oil. I plan on using it in my car
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottW911
For mine, I just stuck the tube down the dipstick hole and let it go to work. I pulled all 7.75 quarts of oil that my computer said I had, out of my C32 in 10 minutes. If you pulled the plug, the pump could not work.

As I said, it is easy and clean. I did not even get any oil on my hands. The worst part is getting the extractor clean after you dispose of the oil.

This is the unit I purchased:
http://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7201-F...0904752&sr=8-2
+1

I have the same make/model Mityvac, and it does a great job. If you go this route, make sure you get the oil temp up to normal operating temperature, and remove the oil cap while sucking the oil out.

bud4ya, your dealer changed your oil for $90? That's really good - retail for 8 quarts of Mobil 1 0w40 + OEM MB fleece filter is almost $80.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Ya I just pulled the file.

$22.95 MB Filter
$49.50 For 9 quarts Mobil 1 at $5.50 each

Now that was Nov 07. I just turned 5,000 since then so I am due for my next oil change. I will see what it is now when I go in next week.


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I have the same make/model Mityvac, and it does a great job. If you go this route, make sure you get the oil temp up to normal operating temperature, and remove the oil cap while sucking the oil out.

bud4ya, your dealer changed your oil for $90? That's really good - retail for 8 quarts of Mobil 1 0w40 + OEM MB fleece filter is almost $80.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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so I got this lame pump it got the job done with some mess and some mods to the pump. but the filter was on so tight i had to go buy a new filter wrench. The car had Royal Purple in it from the last owner so i I put some more in. I sucked out 7tqs all and all it was a total pain in the a$$ I would rather pay to get it done and thats coming from someone who loves to work on cars
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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If you think about it, you are just paying about $20-50 more for the service...Why mess with ur own when others can do it for you I got sick n tired of working under the car (i had few fast imports back in the dayz)... Thats why I bought a C55 and let dealer handle all the problems
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 12:50 AM
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dude, you should just have come over with a case of beer.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bud4ya
Thanks

Royal Purple is very good oil.
Except that using it will void any warranty since it does not meet any MB spec.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 01:35 AM
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the biggest problem was the the lame pump i got. the hose was that clear type and very soft hose and when i put it in the to suck the oil out the suction was so hard it collapsed the hose so i had to keep pulling it out and let some air in. not to mention the first pump of oil went all over my leg WTF. So i raided my landscaping stuff and changed the hose to drip system hose rather than the cheep clear style hose it came with, and it worked great. Then I had what i thought was the right oil filter wrench. Plastic cap type. and that thing sucked. I ended up breaking the filter wrench. Then having to run back to the store and get a new wrench. Then the whole time im wondering did i get out all the oil? Lastly to top it off the Lame a$$ pump (hand held style) would get so hot you it would burn your hands even with gloves on. This car does not cool down out here in AZ. It would be nice to have a dipstick and a drain plug you can get to.

Total cost... $86 for parts, $25 for the stupid pump $60 for jeans, 7 shop towels, $20 for oil remover at home depot. Seeing the hose fall out of the bucket and pump oil all over my leg... priceless
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Untertürkheim
Except that using it will void any warranty since it does not meet any MB spec.
That's actually weird.. Only oil meets the MB spec is 0W-30 or 40 i think.. Yet, my MB dealer from the states regularly used 10W-30 mobile...


wtf
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yeah something similar happened to me when i wen with a cheap pump. Its definately worth it to get a good pump. But other then that mine was pretty easy. A lot easier then any of the japanese cars i use to work on.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Untertürkheim
Except that using it will void any warranty since it does not meet any MB spec.
Bla bla bla. the dealer would have to be a total dick to do that... You would think if it would void the warranty they wouldn't say "Recommend mobil1" rather "You must use Mobil1" Do you think the dealer is going to come to you and say "you know that really good motor oil that lots of people use that's proven to lower engine temp killed your motor." No aftermarket part will void your warranty. That's against the law. If I blow a head gasket the dealer will have to prove that any of the parts on my car caused it. The dealer cant void a warranty on a car when nothing has gone wrong.
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Originally Posted by Quicktwinturbo
That's actually weird.. Only oil meets the MB spec is 0W-30 or 40 i think.. Yet, my MB dealer from the states regularly used 10W-30 mobile...


wtf
Actually, the only 229.5 oil that is approved for AMG is the Mobil 1 0w-40, there are a few more 229.3 oils that are approved for AMG. You should notify MBUSA about that dealer's practices, because they voided your warranty, although MBUSA should still honor it if it was one of their authorized dealers that did this.
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Bla bla bla. the dealer would have to be a total dick to do that... You would think if it would void the warranty they wouldn't say "Recommend mobil1" rather "You must use Mobil1" Do you think the dealer is going to come to you and say "you know that really good motor oil that lots of people use that's proven to lower engine temp killed your motor." No aftermarket part will void your warranty. That's against the law. If I blow a head gasket the dealer will have to prove that any of the parts on my car caused it. The dealer cant void a warranty on a car when nothing has gone wrong.
You might want to bother informing yourself before you speak, other people may actually listen to you.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Untertürkheim
You might want to bother informing yourself before you speak, other people may actually listen to you.
READ THE MAGNUSSON-MOSS ACT FRIENDO

You are totally misinforming people on this board.
"The RP 5W40 is ACEA A2/A3 (2002) approved and would meet the MB 229.3 spec."

this is a letter A member of the "Other Mercedes forum" got back from Royal Purple

here is the letter and link
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w202...ed-mb-yet.html




"The RP 5W40 is ACEA A2/A3 (2002) approved and would meet the MB 229.3 spec.
The RP 15W40 meets the MB 228.3 spec for diesels and is ACEA A3/B3/E3/E5
(2002).

There is nothing unique about the MB specifications as compared to US API
specs.
In Europe, the manufacturer sets a spec, meaning that the oil companies have
to pay a tariff (licensing fee) to be allowed to put that manufacturer's
spec on the bottle. It can get expensive when you have BMW, Volvo, FIAT,
MAN, Peugeot, Renault, VW/ Audi / Porsche, etc all having their own
qualification programs.


In the US, we have the API Service Classifications which are an agreed upon
set of specs for cars sold and manufactured in the US.


Your car is well out of warranty and you'll have excellent results using any
of the API licensed oils found locally here. My wife has a 2.3L
Supercharged Mazda and I don't worry about putting in a 'Japanese'
recognized spec oil!."


David


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Originally Posted by hooleyboy
READ THE MAGNUSSON-MOSS ACT FRIENDO

You are totally misinforming people on this board.
"The RP 5W40 is ACEA A2/A3 (2002) approved and would meet the MB 229.3 spec."

this is a letter A member of the "Other Mercedes forum" got back from Royal Purple

here is the letter and link
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w202...ed-mb-yet.html




"The RP 5W40 is ACEA A2/A3 (2002) approved and would meet the MB 229.3 spec.
The RP 15W40 meets the MB 228.3 spec for diesels and is ACEA A3/B3/E3/E5
(2002).

There is nothing unique about the MB specifications as compared to US API
specs.
In Europe, the manufacturer sets a spec, meaning that the oil companies have
to pay a tariff (licensing fee) to be allowed to put that manufacturer's
spec on the bottle. It can get expensive when you have BMW, Volvo, FIAT,
MAN, Peugeot, Renault, VW/ Audi / Porsche, etc all having their own
qualification programs.


In the US, we have the API Service Classifications which are an agreed upon
set of specs for cars sold and manufactured in the US.


Your car is well out of warranty and you'll have excellent results using any
of the API licensed oils found locally here. My wife has a 2.3L
Supercharged Mazda and I don't worry about putting in a 'Japanese'
recognized spec oil!."


David


Royal Purple Inc"

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and does are not the same word. Just because your car is out of warranty does not change anything.
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