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C32T Winter Project, 7-800Hp

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Old 10-23-2008, 01:30 AM
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C32 T 2003. Mods? MANY!! :)
Originally Posted by MRAMG1
Mido, just some info for you my friend:

As Frank said Whipples ARE a Lysholm supercharger. Lysholm is the NAME of the engineer that invented it. NOT a brand name. ALL Lysholm superchargers are twin screw style. That is what he invented, and called it as such. Please keep in mind, some manufacturers have now added more threads to each lobe/screw, and have made other minor changes, but they are still called Lysholm superchargers. An example of one of these small changes is MB added a teflon coating to their specs for our superchargers. However it IS still a Lysholm supercharger.
When I looked for my first supercharger, I went with a Whipple, because it IS a Lysholm design. Frank stated this because they are MUCH cheaper in price, but are the EXACT same design

So, you might save some money with a Whipple, and get the EXACT same performance you are looking for my friend.

See yeah

PS: Good luck in what ever way you go. Anxiously awaiting
Ahhh....Did not know that! Frank, my apologies ! And MRAMG1, thank's for that!
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not stock.
wow cant wait to see this thing done....
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C32 T 2003. Mods? MANY!! :)
Ok guys, I have the dyno paper....And something is wrong! Kleemann said on there webpage before that S1 would give 404Hp, I can't remember the Nm, and I don't even have that with S3! I have mailed Kleemann and asked what's going on!? I will post what what they say when and if I get a reply.

The thing is, the car feels soooo much faster and stronger then this....
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Originally Posted by MIDO
Ok guys, I have the dyno paper....And something is wrong! Kleemann said on there webpage before that S1 would give 404Hp, I can't remember the Nm, and I don't even have that with S3! I have mailed Kleemann and asked what's going on!? I will post what what they say when and if I get a reply.

The thing is, the car feels soooo much faster and stronger then this....
Looks about right to me. What brand dyno??
Old 10-25-2008, 05:15 AM
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Looks about right to me. What brand dyno??
I don't agree, I have S3 so I should have much more then this! But it don't really matter now, since in April I'll be having "a bit" more in the car anyway.

It was done in this;

http://www.rototest.com/rototest-dynamometer.php
Old 10-25-2008, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MIDO
I don't agree, I have S3 so I should have much more then this! But it don't really matter now, since in April I'll be having "a bit" more in the car anyway.

It was done in this;

http://www.rototest.com/rototest-dynamometer.php
Nice!

Looks similar in approach to this:

www.dynapack.com

I didn't realize there was another dyno brand other than dynapack that bolted right up to the hubs (thereby eliminating wheel/tire weight and variation from the results) - good to know!
Old 10-29-2008, 03:36 AM
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Nice!

Looks similar in approach to this:

www.dynapack.com

I didn't realize there was another dyno brand other than dynapack that bolted right up to the hubs (thereby eliminating wheel/tire weight and variation from the results) - good to know!
Yea it's a very good and accurate system... Will be interesting to se the numbers in April..
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All tuners over rate their power numbers IMO. Cant wait to see how this project goes!
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[QUOTE=MIDO;3128835]I don't agree, I have S3 so I should have much more then this! But it don't really matter now, since in April I'll be having "a bit" more in the car anyway.



You don't agree with your own dyno numbers??? OR, you don't agree with the dyno??? Seriously, do you really think you'll be getting 700-800 HP out of the C32 engine???
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if you put that number to the crank hp..its basically 400hp. So if there speaking in terms of crank hp then its about right. If that dyno is based on to the wheels.

If its based on to the hubs then yeah its short.

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kleemann was known to water some of their dyno to make it look better at times from their advertising.
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most tuners adverstise crank hp numbers anyways for marketing purposes.
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
most tuners adverstise crank hp numbers anyways for marketing purposes.
Very true
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C32 T 2003. Mods? MANY!! :)
[QUOTE=Newzchspy;3139452]
Originally Posted by MIDO
I don't agree, I have S3 so I should have much more then this! But it don't really matter now, since in April I'll be having "a bit" more in the car anyway.



You don't agree with your own dyno numbers??? OR, you don't agree with the dyno??? Seriously, do you really think you'll be getting 700-800 HP out of the C32 engine???

If you would have read what I replied to, you would have seen that what I don't agree to is this,
"Originally Posted by MIDO
Ok guys, I have the dyno paper....And something is wrong! Kleemann said on there webpage before that S1 would give 404Hp, I can't remember the Nm, and I don't even have that with S3!

Do I "really think" that I'll be getting 7-800Hp out of the C32 engine? Yes I do!!
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Originally Posted by FrankW
kleemann was known to water some of their dyno to make it look better at times from their advertising.
NO Frank, Kleeman wouldn't do that!!! And charge ridiculous prices too?? No, I don't believe it
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Originally Posted by Newzchspy


If you would have read what I replied to, you would have seen that what I don't agree to is this,
"Originally Posted by MIDO
Ok guys, I have the dyno paper....And something is wrong! Kleemann said on there webpage before that S1 would give 404Hp, I can't remember the Nm, and I don't even have that with S3!

Do I "really think" that I'll be getting 7-800Hp out of the C32 engine? Yes I do!!
I anxiously await your results!! Personally, I'd love to see someone get 7-800 out of the C32.
Old 11-01-2008, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Newzchspy
NO Frank, Kleeman wouldn't do that!!! And charge ridiculous prices too?? No, I don't believe it
What!! Kleemann..Nooooo.....I could not agree more after doing the dyno...
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"Before" photos

Here are a few photos of how the car looks right now....What do you guys think?
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Originally Posted by Newzchspy
NO Frank, Kleeman wouldn't do that!!! And charge ridiculous prices too?? No, I don't believe it
the story might have been deleted from the forum database, but try searching it anyway. some guy had his SL500 send to Kleemann and they sent him a dyno after the s/c was installed. The owner was skeptic because he didn't feel like the car was performing to what the dyno sheet says, so he took upon himself to dyno the car at a local reputable shop. The result number was way lower than the dyno graph Kleemann sent him. I think there was few other similar deal, but the story was killed off before it got big. could be isolated incidence, but IMO doesn't matter what tuner company it is there's always a chance you get stiffed if you are unlucky.
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Originally Posted by MIDO
Here are a few photos of how the car looks right now....What do you guys think?
I like to movit movit...I like to movit movit!...MOVIT!...

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Originally Posted by MIDO
Here are a few photos of how the car looks right now....What do you guys think?
Woah, are those two piece REAR rotors?
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Originally Posted by MIDO
Here are a few photos of how the car looks right now....What do you guys think?
Looking good
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Woah, are those two piece REAR rotors?
It's 342x28 4 Calipers Movit.....They look much better then what is on the C32 as standard I think....
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C32 T 2003. Mods? MANY!! :)
Originally Posted by Newzchspy
Looking good
Thank you..


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