cnchung

Yesterday, a friendly run with a 996 Turbo, i pulled it for a couple of car lenghts.

The LET tune has kept reminding me that this is no longer the same machine.

Jerry is awesome.

weneakhborz

what was esactly done to what car of yours mate?

CLKCLK

If I am not wrong, he runs dual pulleys, Code 3 and some other crank + LET tune

Good on the kill

razormb

I concur.. its amazing!

Code3 Performance

Very nice kill!~!

bud4ya

You have to be running both pulleys, tune, headers etc correct? You car must be a high 11's car or min a 12.0 car to pull multi cars? Just from a quick look a 996 Turbo is running 12.2 stock. I am not sure if that is high or a low time for a 996 turbo? But either way for a stock car that is fast.

Nice kill

c32used

Wow! Nice!!

If mind serves me right its a LET 185mm and Tune right? Maybe headers

cnchung

Thanks to all the replies. But I have to say "C32 used" got the correct answer.

Plus that, HE, Phenolics, Booster, Resonator Delete, K&Ns were other minor mods.

The LET tune really made the difference, a huge difference. You could never imagine the extra pull when the car hits 5,000 rpm, its something that every C32 owner should experience. Further, Jerry said my tune was only a mild tune.

jturkel

wow thats sick! have you ever dyno'd your car? ever taken it to the track?

alkrstev

That is incredible. I wanted to go with the 185 LET pulley, but just my luck, LET do not sell parts anymore. Now I am thinking about getting the code3 pulley.

jturkel

Code3 pulley FTW!

cnchung

I never dynoed the car, but a few runs before had given me some estimations. A few kills were 996 GT3, 360, C63 (side by side). The worst "got smoked big time" was a 2008 GTR.

LET is now relocating and Jerry is a bit busy. Wait till he settles and he should be able to help you. On the other hand Code 3 got good products too.

I planned to have the ECU retuned when Jerry has time. My next project is to have the intake plenum polished, hope than helps. Don't know, worth a try.

360_iti

With a simplified calculation you need at least 440 crank hp to beat 996 GT3 in a straight line. Pulley + tune + headers = 90 hp gain ?

bud4ya

That was not making since to me either unless the P car had a real bad driver. I looked up stock 996 TT and drag times had one at 12.2 in the 1/4 and I am sure they are quicker than that. I thought the fastest recorded 1/4 for a C32 was in the mid 12's. Correct me if I am wrong. Even with both pulleys, headers and tune in a C32 it would not beat a 911 TT never mind leave it by 2 cars. That is of course with 2 equal drivers.

I know the C32 can be fast but I did not think a C32 with a pulley and tune would walk or even come close to beating a 996 TT.

If I am wrong please let me know.

loungn14

12.2 is a little slow, but not that far off.

I ran a TT and we were dead even for 90% of the run. Walking a TT...not so much. It would take more than 420 rwhp....

bud4ya

I figured the 911 TT was a bit quicker than that. I figured with a good driver they are a 12 sec car or a bit less stock. Even the fastest C32 is not turning those numbers. Any car that can run close to a 996 TT is a fast car. Like you said I do not see a C32 even with both pulleys, tune and headers pulling any 911 TT. I am not saying it did not happen, I am sure it did but he must of just ran into someone who was a bad driver or did not push the car to it's limits.

cnchung

Thanks for all the inputs and thats why this thread came up.

The scenario was, we both went from 60km/h up to some where close to 160km/h.

For the 996 GT3, the C32 is totally capable of keeping side by side. When I had the C32 stock, I got pulled slowly. Since I had the headers, pullies etc. I started to stay very close. After the tune, the GT3 no longer keeps up. We had numerous tests as that GT3 is owned by a good friend if mine and he pushes his car to the very limit too. Keeping in mind his car got the full Gemballa Exhaust and weighs merely 1,300+kg.

Because of this, I am always tempted to do a run with a 996 TT and I got a good chance last week. I admit the kill was a surprised to me, and also to the TT driver, we both thumbed up after the run.

With all the figures, I might conclude either the TT driver was not on the right gear (I was on 2nd and he was on 3rd, which I always suspect) or he did not push the car hard enough.

After all, I think the C32, with 2002 technologies, is remarkable. After so many years, it is still very capable. Running in the 12's, top speed 300km/h (watched from youtube, I dare trying), what more needed to be said.

c32used

No matter how...a win is a win.......I am a firm believer that our mighty C32s modded are capable of taking on even higher opponents


cnchung

Guys keep in mind that modded Dodge Neon SRT4s,Evo8,STi among others are capable of taking on Lambos...........remember the 12.4 that loungn14 made was only LET 185mm+LET custom tune............cut the man some slack.

bud4ya

Great run. I would agree the figures show in favor of the 996 TT so maybe he was in the wrong gear. Anything thing can happen on teh road. But if your C32 is keeping you in the realm as a 996 TT you have a keeper there. I know my C32 stock surprised many people on the road. They either had that jaw drop look or gave me the finger or swirled it being a poor sport.

If you ever get it on Video with your friends 996 that woud be great to see. I love the sound of the 996 TT

bud4ya

I agree a win is a win. I have beat many cars that in theory should have smoked me. Different day different driver I would have had my *** handed to me many of times. I do not think anyone was busting his ***** including myself. Just trying to make sense of the C32 capabilities with all these new upgrades. Cars like the Evo 8 etc can be made into 11 second cars to run in Lambo territory. I was just confused because the fastest time I have seen on a C32 is around 12.4 I think. Now that was with pulley, tune and headers. I was told even adding a S/C pulley to that car would knock about a 1/10 of the 1/4 mile time. I think people were just trying to make sense of a car that runs probally around 12.0 being pulled by 2 cars by a car that probally runs mid 12's. I was just unaware that a C32 with with pulleys, tune and headers would run 12.0 flat or even 12.1 like a 996 TT will do stock. Again not doubting this happened just trying to make sense of what the car can do or if it was a poor driver starting in the wrong gear.

The great thing with the C32 is it is a sleeper. I bet the guy in the 911 was just shaking his head at cnchungand wondering what the hell just happened.

Anything can happen on the street or the track. Christ I beat a ¾ Cobra in my Audi 2.7 T by car lengths one day. The big but here is it was pouring ran out and I had Quarttro. On dry pavement that Cobra would have been miles ahead of me. So I think people were more trying to get a grasp on the C32 new potential with all the new stuff out there for it.

I would love to see a dyno of cnchung car. I bet the numbers are right up there.

c32used

Sorry didn't mean to sound as I did...a little bit under the weather thus I guess a little defensive...sorry.

loungn14

With the combo sc pully and 178 crank you will not unfortnately push into the low 12's. It takes quite a bit more for that.

My 12.4 was with 185 and custom tune (with the approp cooling mods of coarse)

The sc pully just does not hold its weight to the 185. SC plus 178 does a much better job, but is still a little short.

Getting into the low 12's high 11's takes a bit more....But I really think its possible....or so I shall find out sat

c32AMG-DTM

178mm + C3P S/C pulley allegedly is more boost than 185mm crank pulley with stock S/C pulley (others smarter than me have done the math to figure out that calculation).

Agree completely with loungn14 - cnchung's mods should put a C32 with an exceptional driver into the mid 12's range.

Don't doubt cnchung's encounter happened for a second... however, equal drivers, stock 996tt will walk a heavily modded C32 IMHO. Don't forget - 996tt is potentially a 9 second car with a lot of $$$ but without requiring a motor swap or anything.

Newzchspy

Good for you. However, I have driven Rahal brother's car (TT S model) and it will in any shape and form smoke my C32, so perhaps the driver was not that skilled??? Not to take anything away from your car, but beating a 996 TT is a helluva kill?? I can't see my C32 doing that to a modern day TT??

bud4ya

I do not think you were defensive at all. I hope you feel better. I just did not want someone to think if they go out and fork out the cash for a pulley headers and a tune they are going to walk a 996 TT. I bet they would be pretty un happy after dropping that cash and then getting handily beat. That again is with a capable driver in the 996. A 996 TT is just in another league than a stock or currently modded C32 power wise and handling. Again bad driver/wrong gear for the TT and it would be a different story if the C32 was modded. I think with all the new things happening in the C32 world from LET and Code 3 the C32 will get there. Once these new projects get finshed up for the C32 and these packages go up for sale I am willing to bet you will be one of the first in line . You love power as much as I do.


I remember a couple years back I was in my 540 6/sport that had exhaust, intake, tune and M5 diff. It was pretty quick car. If I had to guess it was probably on par with a stock C32. I was pacing this guy in a 996 TT just checking his car out. He pointed forward and I said yes. I hit it and he hit it and literally left me like I was standing still. This was my first and only encounter with a TT 996 and I was shocked. I know they were fast but did not realize they were that fast. The sound I cannot even describe. It was AMAZING. My V8 with exhaust sounded like a sewing machine.