Kleemann ODPS pulley vs. Code 3 Pulley?
10-22-2008, 02:37 AM
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Kleemann ODPS pulley vs. Code 3 Pulley?
Which would you say is the better mod? The Kleemann pulley option provided through Evosport? Or the Code 3 Supercharger pulley provided by...well...Code 3? 
I'm not too hot on the idea of combining them, as that's a bit too much for my blood...for now. But what does everyone think? Seems like the Code 3 is a big hit all around. Is it safer engine-wise than the Kleemann? Your thoughts are appreciated. Some personal experiences would be great.
I'm not too hot on the idea of combining them, as that's a bit too much for my blood...for now. But what does everyone think? Seems like the Code 3 is a big hit all around. Is it safer engine-wise than the Kleemann? Your thoughts are appreciated. Some personal experiences would be great.
10-22-2008, 02:44 AM
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C32 T 2003. Mods? MANY!! :)
Well, I have the Kleemann and I have nothing bad to say about it! As far as safer, I'd say that the Kleemann is the safer option, just because it's well documented of several years.
10-22-2008, 03:00 AM
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Well if they are the same cost, I would go with the one that produces more power. However, I don't think kleeman is cheaper. I doubt it. Bigger name sometimes doesn't mean bigger winning
But buy what you like
10-22-2008, 03:07 AM
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Interesting point. Oh, did anyone ever find out why it looks like the Code 3 + intake makes lower power at lower RPMs until about 4000 rpm?? That didn't make any sense to me.
10-22-2008, 03:28 AM
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C32 T 2003. Mods? MANY!! :)
I have not seen the kleemann in person so don't know how good it is and how much power it produces, but have you seen Code3 in person? It's very clean, precise and the quality is not less than the OEM.
Well if they are the same cost, I would go with the one that produces more power. However, I don't think kleeman is cheaper. I doubt it. Bigger name sometimes doesn't mean bigger winning But buy what you like
Well if they are the same cost, I would go with the one that produces more power. However, I don't think kleeman is cheaper. I doubt it. Bigger name sometimes doesn't mean bigger winning
But buy what you likeBut I think that you are very right on the point of cost, I'm not sure what the cost is for the two versions, but knowing Kleemann, I'm sure they are more expensive!
10-22-2008, 07:33 AM
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I have not seen the C3P in person, but I know what happened to the LET version, and that will cost you the engine! I'm not saying that this Will happen with the C3P version, I'm just saying that the Kleemann version is gone thru many years of service in differant cars!
But I think that you are very right on the point of cost, I'm not sure what the cost is for the two versions, but knowing Kleemann, I'm sure they are more expensive!
But I think that you are very right on the point of cost, I'm not sure what the cost is for the two versions, but knowing Kleemann, I'm sure they are more expensive!
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10-22-2008, 08:26 AM
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Why the crap would your choice be between Kleeman and Code3
If you just want to add a few pounds of boost, go with the Code3. There is no need to go through the expense and trouble of adding a crank pulley for 20-30HP. If you just must have a crank pulley, give LET a call. It will be much cheaper and make just as much power as Kleemann (assuming you go with the 178mm). If you go larger like 181 or 185 (might as well), you will make even more power; LET has you covered there as well.
Kleemann and Renntech can fall off a cliff for all the money they charge for mods. As far as I'm concerned, they have obsoleted themselves from the C Class world with their ridiculous prices now that there are many other options available for C Class owners. You can build a much faster car for much less money through the vendors on this board.
If you just want to add a few pounds of boost, go with the Code3. There is no need to go through the expense and trouble of adding a crank pulley for 20-30HP. If you just must have a crank pulley, give LET a call. It will be much cheaper and make just as much power as Kleemann (assuming you go with the 178mm). If you go larger like 181 or 185 (might as well), you will make even more power; LET has you covered there as well. Kleemann and Renntech can fall off a cliff for all the money they charge for mods. As far as I'm concerned, they have obsoleted themselves from the C Class world with their ridiculous prices now that there are many other options available for C Class owners. You can build a much faster car for much less money through the vendors on this board.
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10-22-2008, 10:28 AM
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I have not seen the C3P in person, but I know what happened to the LET version, and that will cost you the engine! I'm not saying that this Will happen with the C3P version, I'm just saying that the Kleemann version is gone thru many years of service in differant cars!
But I think that you are very right on the point of cost, I'm not sure what the cost is for the two versions, but knowing Kleemann, I'm sure they are more expensive!
But I think that you are very right on the point of cost, I'm not sure what the cost is for the two versions, but knowing Kleemann, I'm sure they are more expensive!
10-22-2008, 11:19 AM
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I have not seen the C3P in person, but I know what happened to the LET version, and that will cost you the engine! I'm not saying that this Will happen with the C3P version, I'm just saying that the Kleemann version is gone thru many years of service in differant cars!
But I think that you are very right on the point of cost, I'm not sure what the cost is for the two versions, but knowing Kleemann, I'm sure they are more expensive!
But I think that you are very right on the point of cost, I'm not sure what the cost is for the two versions, but knowing Kleemann, I'm sure they are more expensive!
They did some crank ones and I haven't heard of problems that would cause major engine failure. Heck,the stock ones (OEM) will wobble after 30 K miles, BUt that's just a matter of replacing the bolt. LET and Code III have never let me down, so back your facts about how a LET SC pulley had problems???
10-22-2008, 11:33 AM
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OP I say save your $$$ and get a C3P SC pulley and a LET tune....buy rims or cooling mods with the $$$ you are saving. The days of overspending for pullies and Tune are at an end.
10-22-2008, 11:34 AM
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Hey Mido, LET never did a SC pulley?? They did some crank ones and I haven't heard of problems that would cause major engine failure. Heck,the stock ones (OEM) will wobble after 30 K miles, BUt that's just a matter of replacing the bolt. LET and Code III have never let me down, so back your facts about how a LET SC pulley had problems???
They did some crank ones and I haven't heard of problems that would cause major engine failure. Heck,the stock ones (OEM) will wobble after 30 K miles, BUt that's just a matter of replacing the bolt. LET and Code III have never let me down, so back your facts about how a LET SC pulley had problems???
10-22-2008, 11:35 AM
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Why the crap would your choice be between Kleeman and Code3 If you just want to add a few pounds of boost, go with the Code3. There is no need to go through the expense and trouble of adding a crank pulley for 20-30HP. If you just must have a crank pulley, give LET a call. It will be much cheaper and make just as much power as Kleemann (assuming you go with the 178mm). If you go larger like 181 or 185 (might as well), you will make even more power; LET has you covered there as well.
Kleemann and Renntech can fall off a cliff for all the money they charge for mods. As far as I'm concerned, they have obsoleted themselves from the C Class world with their ridiculous prices now that there are many other options available for C Class owners. You can build a much faster car for much less money through the vendors on this board.
If you just want to add a few pounds of boost, go with the Code3. There is no need to go through the expense and trouble of adding a crank pulley for 20-30HP. If you just must have a crank pulley, give LET a call. It will be much cheaper and make just as much power as Kleemann (assuming you go with the 178mm). If you go larger like 181 or 185 (might as well), you will make even more power; LET has you covered there as well. Kleemann and Renntech can fall off a cliff for all the money they charge for mods. As far as I'm concerned, they have obsoleted themselves from the C Class world with their ridiculous prices now that there are many other options available for C Class owners. You can build a much faster car for much less money through the vendors on this board.
10-22-2008, 12:01 PM
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Let me tell you about Kleemann guys. Think that they are the ONLY ones who know how to make a MB fast
I tried many times to get a SC for the ML 55 and 1. Their prices are outrageous and 2. They don't care that their prices are outrageous!!Mido, there's a LOT of guys like LET and CODE 2.5 who are making great products (tunes, pulleys, IC, HE, phenolics etc etc) for the C32, SLK and Srt-6 that are NOT Kleemann.
My advice, like Vic's, is to forget the Kleeman and get a Code 2.5 pulley, LET Tune , HE and the new IC. If Kleeman is so great, why are you going to the twin turbos which are clearly NON-Kleeman???
10-22-2008, 01:14 PM
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Long story, you wouldn't get the joke!!!
Every day that parts don't arrive, Code's rating drops from a 3 to a 2.5 etc. He's running at a 3.5 with me since I got the Spearco!!!
As long as Code doesn't CODE, I'll be happy.
10-22-2008, 01:52 PM
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All is looking good though....
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Kleemann and twin-turbo
If Kleeman is so great, why are you going to the twin turbos which are clearly NON-Kleeman???
Mido is not going to installing a twin-turbo.
He is going to installing a bigger Lysholm supercharger.
The car need more air in to the engine. C32 have a Lysholm but
its to small. 800 hp needs more air. Just a bigger Lysholm.
I have Kleemann before LET and i think Kleemann is not
in a way better or worse. Everything that makes high
pressure and make the C32/SLK32 mowing faster than
other cars is for me fantastic.
Kleemann and Renntech is the most expensive one.
I am happy with LET, and Kleemann is OK to, but expensive.
There was no LET or Cod3 when i started to upgrade my car.
With my 178 mm Kleemann Pulley i got 1.37 bar with DIY 3´intake,
Cams and Ferrita 3´exhaust and two 100 cells cats.
Thats OK. ( 19.865 psi )
Now i have...this much pressure with LET.
And i am more happy. So far so good.
And it is cheaper than .....
/Göran
Mido is not going to installing a twin-turbo.
He is going to installing a bigger Lysholm supercharger.
The car need more air in to the engine. C32 have a Lysholm but
its to small. 800 hp needs more air. Just a bigger Lysholm.
I have Kleemann before LET and i think Kleemann is not
in a way better or worse. Everything that makes high
pressure and make the C32/SLK32 mowing faster than
other cars is for me fantastic.
Kleemann and Renntech is the most expensive one.
I am happy with LET, and Kleemann is OK to, but expensive.
There was no LET or Cod3 when i started to upgrade my car.
With my 178 mm Kleemann Pulley i got 1.37 bar with DIY 3´intake,
Cams and Ferrita 3´exhaust and two 100 cells cats.
Thats OK. ( 19.865 psi )
Now i have...this much pressure with LET.
And i am more happy. So far so good.
And it is cheaper than .....
/Göran
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10-22-2008, 06:45 PM
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if I had to the choice...
I would do a clutch pulley for both of my cars (C and E)
that's how the rest of the world upgrades supercharged cars... should of been the first option for our cars
But somehow.. the tuners decided on the crank pulley.
I would do a clutch pulley for both of my cars (C and E)
that's how the rest of the world upgrades supercharged cars... should of been the first option for our cars
But somehow.. the tuners decided on the crank pulley.
10-22-2008, 06:48 PM
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If Kleeman is so great, why are you going to the twin turbos which are clearly NON-Kleeman???
Mido is not going to installing a twin-turbo.
He is going to installing a bigger Lysholm supercharger.
The car need more air in to the engine. C32 have a Lysholm but
its to small. 800 hp needs more air. Just a bigger Lysholm.
I have Kleemann before LET and i think Kleemann is not
in a way better or worse. Everything that makes high
pressure and make the C32/SLK32 mowing faster than
other cars is for me fantastic.
Kleemann and Renntech is the most expensive one.
I am happy with LET, and Kleemann is OK to, but expensive.
There was no LET or Cod3 when i started to upgrade my car.
With my 178 mm Kleemann Pulley i got 1.37 bar with DIY 3´intake,
Cams and Ferrita 3´exhaust and two 100 cells cats.
Thats OK. ( 19.865 psi )
Now i have...this much pressure with LET.
And i am more happy. So far so good.
And it is cheaper than .....
/Göran
Mido is not going to installing a twin-turbo.
He is going to installing a bigger Lysholm supercharger.
The car need more air in to the engine. C32 have a Lysholm but
its to small. 800 hp needs more air. Just a bigger Lysholm.
I have Kleemann before LET and i think Kleemann is not
in a way better or worse. Everything that makes high
pressure and make the C32/SLK32 mowing faster than
other cars is for me fantastic.
Kleemann and Renntech is the most expensive one.
I am happy with LET, and Kleemann is OK to, but expensive.
There was no LET or Cod3 when i started to upgrade my car.
With my 178 mm Kleemann Pulley i got 1.37 bar with DIY 3´intake,
Cams and Ferrita 3´exhaust and two 100 cells cats.
Thats OK. ( 19.865 psi )
Now i have...this much pressure with LET.
And i am more happy. So far so good.
And it is cheaper than .....
/Göran
10-23-2008, 01:30 AM
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All right then. It appears the majority has spoken. Thanks. Leave the intake out of it then? Or get the Code 3 intake? Or just some regular aftermarket filters?
Thanks. Leave the intake out of it then? Or get the Code 3 intake? Or just some regular aftermarket filters?
10-23-2008, 01:55 AM
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03 g35 coupe...........02 c32 Sold
i have the code3 pulley, i plan on going code3 and 178 asp pulley in the future. The pulley looks oem quality to me. If you dont plan on running combos, i suggest 185mm LET pulley.
10-23-2008, 02:14 AM
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C32 T 2003. Mods? MANY!! :)
Hey Mido, LET never did a SC pulley?? They did some crank ones and I haven't heard of problems that would cause major engine failure. Heck,the stock ones (OEM) will wobble after 30 K miles, BUt that's just a matter of replacing the bolt. LET and Code III have never let me down, so back your facts about how a LET SC pulley had problems???
They did some crank ones and I haven't heard of problems that would cause major engine failure. Heck,the stock ones (OEM) will wobble after 30 K miles, BUt that's just a matter of replacing the bolt. LET and Code III have never let me down, so back your facts about how a LET SC pulley had problems???
..I apologize...
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