OT: Real World Vette ZR-1 test
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OT: Real World Vette ZR-1 test
Automobile Mag on Page 84-86 did a great real-world test on the new ZR-1. To say the least, I am not impressed. First, the real world qtr was 11.9 at 126 (about as fast as George's twin Snail Vette that I raced at US 41). Top speed was 195.00. Didn't even break the two ton limit. 
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Automobile Mag on Page 84-86 did a great real-world test on the new ZR-1. To say the least, I am not impressed. First, the real world qtr was 11.9 at 126 (about as fast as George's twin Snail Vette that I raced at US 41). Top speed was 195.00. Didn't even break the two ton limit.
Agreed.
The ZR1 is basically a turd on wheels.....
Joke of course!
It's an awesome car!
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Problem with the GTR is, people are voiding their warrenties buy over using the launch control option. I guess they are blowing out their transmissions. The dealer wont cover it. not to metion i guess the GTR had a computer that records how many times you use launch control.
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I would take the GTR any day over just about any vette.
Problem with the GTR is, people are voiding their warrenties buy over using the launch control option. I guess they are blowing out their transmissions. The dealer wont cover it. not to metion i guess the GTR had a computer that records how many times you use launch control.
Problem with the GTR is, people are voiding their warrenties buy over using the launch control option. I guess they are blowing out their transmissions. The dealer wont cover it. not to metion i guess the GTR had a computer that records how many times you use launch control.
OT, BUT the GTR records everything a driver does (speed, angle of attack, throttle position, brake position, G forces, gear selection etc etc) and there's not a lot of happy campers out there! It was used against one guy on the Nissan forums already for a trans issue?? Ouch!! (I guess he used te launch control against their wishes). I hear (haven't seen) there's over 150 DO NOT DOs in the owners manual that are highlighted as well.
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OT, BUT the GTR records everything a driver does (speed, angle of attack, throttle position, brake position, G forces, gear selection etc etc) and there's not a lot of happy campers out there! It was used against one guy on the Nissan forums already for a trans issue?? Ouch!! (I guess he used te launch control against their wishes). I hear (haven't seen) there's over 150 DO NOT DOs in the owners manual that are highlighted as well.
OT, BUT the GTR records everything a driver does (speed, angle of attack, throttle position, brake position, G forces, gear selection etc etc) and there's not a lot of happy campers out there! It was used against one guy on the Nissan forums already for a trans issue?? Ouch!! (I guess he used te launch control against their wishes). I hear (haven't seen) there's over 150 DO NOT DOs in the owners manual that are highlighted as well.
OT/ can you sell a new car in the US with a standard option that viods the warrenty Nissan is going to get them selfs in to some trouble with this one.
OT/ the problem with the vette is... its a vette. No body kit or new engine will make it any less of a meat heads car.
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i agree only down fall on the zr1 is that no one will know its a $120k super car because it looks exactly like the $80k model. For $40k more you should get more then just engine and performance..you need to get looks too.
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George's Twin Snail Vette ran a 11.3 at US 41 at 126.71 (with 0 traction) for a whole lot less than $120 K, so I figure that a snailed Z0-6 or Z-51 car could easily break into the 10s and also the 2 ton mark? For $60 K for a gallon of special resin for the roof etc, I'll stick with a Z-06 or the Z-51
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George's Twin Snail Vette ran a 11.3 at US 41 at 126.71 (with 0 traction) for a whole lot less than $120 K, so I figure that a snailed Z0-6 or Z-51 car could easily break into the 10s and also the 2 ton mark? For $60 K for a gallon of special resin for the roof etc, I'll stick with a Z-06 or the Z-51
The point is, when you buy a zr1 its a supercar straight out of the box. It has 600+ hp with nurgburg ring tuned suspension.
The kind of people who would spend $120k on a car, don't really car about doing any heavy modding, they want something fast out of the box.
The problem is, no one can really tell its a zr1 or a z06. Its too subtle...it doesn't look like a supercar for the supercar price tag. No one is going to know this is the car that ran a 7:22 ring time.
You can easily modd a evo to be quicker then the zr1 on the quarter mile for much less then $60k too...but thats not the point.
its not a apples to apples comparison when your comparing modded to stock.
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will do two o five,and run low 11's with a real driver behind the wheel.Anyone can cobble up anything and go faster or quicker.Do it in as nice a package and as solid a platform,then point out the ZR1's faults.0-100-0 in under 11
come on give credit where credit is due.You would need to super glue your eye ***** in the sockets
Have you examined one yet? Drop dead awe inspiring.
come on give credit where credit is due.You would need to super glue your eye ***** in the sockets
Have you examined one yet? Drop dead awe inspiring.
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will do two o five,and run low 11's with a real driver behind the wheel.Anyone can cobble up anything and go faster or quicker.Do it in as nice a package and as solid a platform,then point out the ZR1's faults.0-100-0 in under 11
come on give credit where credit is due.You would need to super glue your eye ***** in the sockets
Have you examined one yet? Drop dead awe inspiring.
come on give credit where credit is due.You would need to super glue your eye ***** in the sockets
Have you examined one yet? Drop dead awe inspiring.
They stepped up and massaged it down to 7:22 from the initial 7:40 time.
Instead of complaining, they just made a better car.
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will do two o five,and run low 11's with a real driver behind the wheel.Anyone can cobble up anything and go faster or quicker.Do it in as nice a package and as solid a platform,then point out the ZR1's faults.0-100-0 in under 11
come on give credit where credit is due.You would need to super glue your eye ***** in the sockets
Have you examined one yet? Drop dead awe inspiring.
come on give credit where credit is due.You would need to super glue your eye ***** in the sockets
Have you examined one yet? Drop dead awe inspiring.
Yes, BUT this was a real-world test with a real-world driver with a real world test track, NOT some pro on the Ring. I'll bet most drivers would work real hard to get this car into the low 11s with wheel-spin etc. Yes, I saw one, sat in one, BUT did not drive one. NICE car, BUT a modded Z-51 would be the ticket for me
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OT/ But I thought what was voiding all the GTR warranties were people launching with the Launch Control off, not using/overusing it? If they are voiding peoples warranties because they are driving the car too hard, that seems pretty rediculous.
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yeah i heard it was launch control with esp off would void your warranty. The ecu records the history of the car...so where you been and how much times you used it. I heard if they found you over used your launch control, they would void the warranty.
I'm sure the aftermarket will find a way to delete the black box history...given all the people crying foul over it.
I'm sure the aftermarket will find a way to delete the black box history...given all the people crying foul over it.
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Maybe the guys at Automobile Magazine just can't drive. MT got 11.2 @130mph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQaas...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQaas...eature=related
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Man thats car is fast, if it only wasnt a vette. At that speed I might be able to over look some things. wonder how it is going to fair against the SL65BS.. Now that is going to be a great looking car. But for a lot more $$$$$
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Maybe the guys at Automobile Magazine just can't drive. MT got 11.2 @130mph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQaas...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQaas...eature=related
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Think about the clk bs and the sl bs...no one going to confuse them as regular clk's or sl's with the huge front and rear fenders and carbon fiber. The car performs and looks the part of a supercar.
If you wanted a $200k supercar then you should just bought a aston martin, lower end ferrari or lambo.
Here's a test for you other then the hood, rims and the black carbon fiber trim on the bottom...can you tell me what the physical differences are between the z06 and zr1?
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sorry but cl65 is not a supercar. Its a luxury cruiser with subtle but elagant styling. With the exception of the engine, rims and amg badges, most people would just think its a regular cl.
Think about the clk bs and the sl bs...no one going to confuse them as regular clk's or sl's with the huge front and rear fenders and carbon fiber. The car performs and looks the part of a supercar.
If you wanted a $200k supercar then you should just bought a aston martin, lower end ferrari or lambo.
Here's a test for you other then the hood, rims and the black carbon fiber trim on the bottom...can you tell me what the physical differences are between the z06 and zr1?
Think about the clk bs and the sl bs...no one going to confuse them as regular clk's or sl's with the huge front and rear fenders and carbon fiber. The car performs and looks the part of a supercar.
If you wanted a $200k supercar then you should just bought a aston martin, lower end ferrari or lambo.
Here's a test for you other then the hood, rims and the black carbon fiber trim on the bottom...can you tell me what the physical differences are between the z06 and zr1?
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The huge front and rear fenders, carbon fibre, hood with engine showing, etc. same as clk bs, unless you know mercedes you won't know that the bs clk is different. clk bs is no supercar either, it's just a clk [/QUOTE]
Tell that to some guy who paid $150 large for one???
[/QUOTE]Tell that to some guy who paid $150 large for one???
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but still impressive but not supercar impressive and no looks to boot just another vette
