DarkXerox

nah was talkin about the other guy's pic that takes up the whole screen

AMGSC

Josh (AMGDragon) recorded a 11.997@117.79

I ran averages of 12.4@116 last Sat and Sun on two damaged cylinders, a vacuum leak, lean AFR, street tires,19" 24lb rims, ESP on, 91 gas, 80F and lousy first time drag racing skills. My 1/8 traps were still the best of ALL C55s at 93mph while, both Kleemann S8s and the Renntech C55 were in the 89-91mph range.

Come Dec 6th, I will correct all of the above and I'm positive I will break into the 11's and that will help the resale value of my Kleemann Blower which I am looking to sell for $7K.

These cars are just NOT mod friendly unless you lower the CR. I just checked Dragtimes.com and compared the C55 to M3s and S4s. Josh's C55 was ranked 34th among the 3 cars. Even if I break into the 11's I would still be ranked below the top 10.

c55asleep?

Before any tuning,LSD, & cams I ran a 12'4 dynoing around 365 with low bottle pressure. After tuning and cams I was dynoing above 400rwhp and that was just a 50 shot and a safe a/f ratio. Save the money hooley and consider nos and some lite weight stuff and you will accomplish what you looking for without breaking the bank unless you got mney to throw away.

dkflipse

Damn I wonder what granny in Naples is driving that whip now?

c55asleep?

LOL

hooleyboy

forget all this supercharger talk I think I'm going to go with a remote mount turbo set up from STS turbos. they have universal kits for remote mounting in the rear of the car for much less then any Supercharger you can get for the C55.

jturkel

i like that idea!

Quicktwinturbo

Buying that kit is simple as long as you got the money.. However, what will you use to tune the a/f ratio?? I highly doubt theres a standalone ECU for our cars..

TemjinX2

well i would be cautious. I read there people who done the rear mounted turbo in the past and it didn't work out very well.

Also thats a lot of distance the air has to travel into the intake and back out to the exhaust.

I think you might run into some efficency issues.

hooleyboy

I would imagine piping the front would make me loose my Renntech airbox and most likely my window washer reservoir. Running the oil feed lines would be no easy task i would think. 140whp gain on 5psi of boost. (thats what they claim.) I'm going to run it by my local shop. I'm sure if it can be done they can do it. They also claim that an intercooler would not really be needed as the turbo is so far away. STS does offer intercooler options though. They also claim their turbos run up to 500 degrees cooler than engine mount turbos. Twin turbo C55 that would be unreal.

hooleyboy

After watching a ton of videos online about STS turbos Horsepower TV says there is a 1 psi lose in the distance. but that is made up with a 500 degree heat lose from standard mount turbos. IF I do it is still up in the air alot of things have to be thought out, but the idea in its self would be fun.

hooleyboy

Thats exactly what I'm thinking. I would think renntech would do another custom map for me, but then again maybe they wont as i didnt buy their supercharger. I'm sure my local shop would have a solution for me. Or maybe one of the sponsors on the forum would like to put there name on a turbo benz. The Sl600 is a twin turbo and lots of the tuners have maps for that so I would think it could be done.

buying the turbo kit is one thing getting it installed is another then tuning it. there are hurdles that will have to be jumped. also my plans on lowering the car would not be a good idea as it would risk damaging the the new pipes.

TemjinX2

you also have to keep in mind that our cars actually have rear independent suspension and not the torsen beam or live rear axel suspension from a oxen car thats on domestic cars. So there's a lot more going on in the rear then domestics.

When LET were working on there rear mounted turbo project, they had to cut out the spare wheel whell.

I think your going to have to do a lot of custom work...you car's probably going to be sitting in the shop for a couple of months.

I dont think it'll be a very bolt on affair. You might end spending as much as the supecharger just from all the custom work and labor. Just something you maybe want to think about.

TemjinX2

i just looked at the sts universal kit...i would be cautious about buying $2-3k turbo kits. They don't even tell you what kind of turbo your getting, what the specs are or what kind of waste gate. From my experience $2-3k turbo kits are Pieces of Cr*p

Any decent turbo kit will run you about $4-5k at least. Even the LET turbo kit was going to be around $6600-7k just for a basic setup.

This kit is slightly above buying turbo kits on ebay..i think you should just find a local mercedes tuner and have him piece together a kit or start doing more research on turbos if your going the custom turbo route.

You should figure out what you want to do, if you want to go twin turbo or a single large turbo. Depending on what you want to do, one is better then the other, but not always.

hooleyboy

here is a cool video of them
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...6-is_87092.htm

hooleyboy

The turbos are make by Garrett for STS, From what i know Garrett makes good stuff, I'm just thinking about it right now before i drop any loot on anything I want to see what my options are. Dyno-Comp, my local tuner is very smart when it comes to turbos. If they dont think its a good idea then it wont be done.

TemjinX2

yeah its buts not going to be as easy as the video makes it out to be. The unverisal kits on that site are already missing items that were shown on the video. You will need to buy additional items to finish the kit.

You should honestly just piece together your own kit. Maybe PM erick and get his feedback.

TemjinX2

garret makes great turbos, but they also make different size turbos and they spoon at different rates. How are you going to know if your turbo is working efficently if you dont know the specs?

hooleyboy

Very true, I have to head back to the shop today so I will talk with Richard the owner of Dyno-Comp and the Renntech guys over there and see what they think. If it works out that would be killer. Again there are tons of hurdles that have to be jumped. If I do a custom turbo set up i bet i could get a nice deal from them on some turbos. I think the LET set up (its a shame if wont get finished) also would have included intake manifold, non-SC pulley, new belt so all that stuff can add up. I hope when i got into dyno comp today they dont tell me im stupid for even thinking about.

hooleyboy

Thats one of those things i'm going to have to find out. Keep the good points coming so i can ask the right questions when i go to the shop

hooleyboy

Plumbing the intake pips up to the front wont be easy for sure.

Quicktwinturbo

I had good bit of experiences of Turbocharged cars and not having a watercooled or aircooled Intercooler is a big no no.. Don't believe everything they say on the web. I'm a little skeptical about 140rwhp @ 5psi as well.. Yes, having your turbos back of your car may run cooler but it can also suck up a lot more debris from the road as well. That includes water.. Main point is, it will still blow hot air into your engine w/o any cooling device.

Keep in mind that having a turbocharger will leave you with some slow throttle-response (also known as turbolag).. Having turbos far away from the engine will cause more lag.

Yes! 600 modles use twin turbo but they are on different engine. That means different compression, fuel map, timing, etc etc. Slight mistuning can cause major damage to your engine. That's something you def don't want and we def don't want to see that as well.. I read somewhere that replacement engine for our car cost $15k +

Personally, I wouldn't let any local shops do this kind of upgrades. Try to consult with Underground racing in Charlotte, NC or Heffner(sp?). They put turbo chargers on viper / lambo / ford GT and they are well known for building reliable kits for high end cars. Remember that this is a major mod and you cannot cut any short cuts!! Can't be skimpy on the price! Go with the best and let the best do this for you.


I would think very hard about this one before you make the call

E46 M3s alreay have their own turbo kits and receiving good feedbacks from public. I wish you the best with your project and looking forward to see M3 TT killa !!

TemjinX2

here's some good article to bring you up to speed on the basics. Once you understand the basics then you can plan out what you want.

You dont want to lego build this or your going to end up spending a lot more money then you planned.

http://www.team-integra.net/sections...?ArticleID=219

http://www.team-integra.net/sections...?ArticleID=325

c32used

With 2 snails it will be a monster!

hooleyboy

You are not kidding, its at least worth looking into.