Need some advice on deciding which cars to get..
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Need some advice on deciding which cars to get..
Hi guys
currently i own a 1999 BMW 328i, and i am thinking about upgrading my car to a C32 or GS400/430... i know those 2 cars are not in the same league but just want to hear what you guys think. ok here is the thing, my parents kinda want to to get the GS400 due to the reliability issue...how is the reliability of mb compared to lexus?? i really like the c32 and i know the performance is unbeatable. just need to hear what you guys think..
thanks a lot guys
mik
currently i own a 1999 BMW 328i, and i am thinking about upgrading my car to a C32 or GS400/430... i know those 2 cars are not in the same league but just want to hear what you guys think. ok here is the thing, my parents kinda want to to get the GS400 due to the reliability issue...how is the reliability of mb compared to lexus?? i really like the c32 and i know the performance is unbeatable. just need to hear what you guys think..
thanks a lot guys
mik
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You will see everything from "my car hasn't had any problems" to "i'm starting to regret my Mercedes purchase". Most, if not all of the problems you will encounter will be solved easily under warranty. Chances are you will be satisfied with the reliability, but there are no guarantees. If your parents are satisfied with the 328i, I see no reason for them to be worried about a C32.
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hmm.... i'd say go w/the lexus GS430. mercedes won't offer as good of customer satisfaction as lexus. TRUST ME. lexus are much well built than mercedes.
BUT i still got the C32... cuz my choice was either the M3 or C32...... but they wanted 3K markup for the M3... and... i got 1K discount off MSRP for the C32... so i decided to give mercedes a try.... i should of stay w/BMW... at least i get a bimmmer loaner car at Santa Barbara... not a saturn.
and i have heard good things about lexus's service department~ just a thought... nothing bias here in the mercedes forum!
Jerry
BUT i still got the C32... cuz my choice was either the M3 or C32...... but they wanted 3K markup for the M3... and... i got 1K discount off MSRP for the C32... so i decided to give mercedes a try.... i should of stay w/BMW... at least i get a bimmmer loaner car at Santa Barbara... not a saturn.
and i have heard good things about lexus's service department~ just a thought... nothing bias here in the mercedes forum!
Jerry
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I selected my C32 because it offered the best of both worlds - Performance and luxury.
When you test drive the C32 you will obviously want to experience the performance aspects of the car.
However, try to select a test drive route that most closely characterises your actual day to day driving. You will notice that the C32 will also impress you in normal every day driving. Smooth, quiet, and comfortable for everyday use with power to spare for times when you just want to have a little bit of fun.
As far as reliability, I have not had any problems with my C32 to date, but that does not mean that I will not in the future. Anyway, high performance cars with complicated electronic technology will almost always experience some type of glitch. That is why we have a warranty. Try to select a dealer that offers exceptional service so that when something does go wrong, you will be well served.
Above all, select the car you feel more comfortable with regardless of what other people think.
When you test drive the C32 you will obviously want to experience the performance aspects of the car.
However, try to select a test drive route that most closely characterises your actual day to day driving. You will notice that the C32 will also impress you in normal every day driving. Smooth, quiet, and comfortable for everyday use with power to spare for times when you just want to have a little bit of fun.
As far as reliability, I have not had any problems with my C32 to date, but that does not mean that I will not in the future. Anyway, high performance cars with complicated electronic technology will almost always experience some type of glitch. That is why we have a warranty. Try to select a dealer that offers exceptional service so that when something does go wrong, you will be well served.
Above all, select the car you feel more comfortable with regardless of what other people think.
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Re: Need some advice on deciding which cars to get..
Originally posted by aznomega
Hi guys
currently i own a 1999 BMW 328i, and i am thinking about upgrading my car to a C32 or GS400/430... i know those 2 cars are not in the same league but just want to hear what you guys think. ok here is the thing, my parents kinda want to to get the GS400 due to the reliability issue...how is the reliability of mb compared to lexus?? i really like the c32 and i know the performance is unbeatable. just need to hear what you guys think..
thanks a lot guys
mik
Hi guys
currently i own a 1999 BMW 328i, and i am thinking about upgrading my car to a C32 or GS400/430... i know those 2 cars are not in the same league but just want to hear what you guys think. ok here is the thing, my parents kinda want to to get the GS400 due to the reliability issue...how is the reliability of mb compared to lexus?? i really like the c32 and i know the performance is unbeatable. just need to hear what you guys think..
thanks a lot guys
mik
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MB quality
I think silva is WAY off base in saying that Lexus are 'more well built than Mercedes". Are you kidding me? LOL
While Lexus is undeniably a great manufacturer, they are nowhere near M-B standards in my opinion, and from my experiences.
Trust me, you will NOT regret the C32 in lieu of the Lexus, believe ME. Chances are, this will be the only car you will ever be excited about driving EACH and EVERY time you get behind the wheel.
While Lexus is undeniably a great manufacturer, they are nowhere near M-B standards in my opinion, and from my experiences.
Trust me, you will NOT regret the C32 in lieu of the Lexus, believe ME. Chances are, this will be the only car you will ever be excited about driving EACH and EVERY time you get behind the wheel.
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Re: MB quality
Originally posted by Marko
I think silva is WAY off base in saying that Lexus are 'more well built than Mercedes". Are you kidding me? LOL
While Lexus is undeniably a great manufacturer, they are nowhere near M-B standards in my opinion, and from my experiences.
Trust me, you will NOT regret the C32 in lieu of the Lexus, believe ME. Chances are, this will be the only car you will ever be excited about driving EACH and EVERY time you get behind the wheel.
I think silva is WAY off base in saying that Lexus are 'more well built than Mercedes". Are you kidding me? LOL
While Lexus is undeniably a great manufacturer, they are nowhere near M-B standards in my opinion, and from my experiences.
Trust me, you will NOT regret the C32 in lieu of the Lexus, believe ME. Chances are, this will be the only car you will ever be excited about driving EACH and EVERY time you get behind the wheel.
The C32 is awesome...
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well..... im just speaking from my opinion. my C32 hasn't been great to me. and my lexus experience has been nothing BUT great. you guys can say what you want. im just saying what i want. hey... im driving a C32 rite? its not like im bashing mercedes when i don't have one. :o
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No, but you did say "TRUST me-lexus are much well built than mercedes" which could lead people to believe that you are THE authority on Lexus and Mercedes, when it's abundantly clear that you are not.
To speak about your experiences is one thing, but to make a sweeping generalization about the manufacturer is asinine.
Enjoy your C32 in good health!
To speak about your experiences is one thing, but to make a sweeping generalization about the manufacturer is asinine.
Enjoy your C32 in good health!
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I think that of the two, the C32 is much more driver oriented, and obviously is similar (but a stronger performer) to the BMW that you've been driving. Concurently, there is no disputing the fact that Lexus has earned its outstanding reputation for delivering cars that are well engineered and assembled. Toyotas have long been the industry standard for reliability, and, with the inception of the Lexus brand fifteen years ago, for value-oriented luxury. But the AMG brand, for a much longer period of time, has been recognized as one of the best performing vehicles in the industry. I just think you will be happier in the long run with the Benz, even if it does require an additional trip or two or three to the dealership for a (warranty) repair. My two cents. Obviously, you need to drive both if you can and make your own personal determination.
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I agree with the last few responses to Silva's comments. Not to flame Silva, but after owning other German cars and now a C32, I would have to say that no other car is put together like a Benz. Why do you think the car mags always say "Bank vault" when referring to M-B? They are built to last and to be luxurious along the way...with AMG's being fast to boot.
I will agree that Lexus has built a reputation for build quality and service experience over the past decade but as far as quality of materiels (plastics, leather, woods) they are still Toyotas compared to the German luxury brands (BMW, MB, and Audi). Don't believe me? At the LA auto show we sat in the X5, Touareg, and GX470 back-to-back-to-back. The X5 is a great standard, the Touareg is even nicer, and the GX felt and looked like the 4-runner that it really is.
Again, not flaming Lexus...they are nice but not in same league as the Germans.
Last comment for thread starter...how about exclusivity? Try asking Lexus owners what that word means?
Collin
I will agree that Lexus has built a reputation for build quality and service experience over the past decade but as far as quality of materiels (plastics, leather, woods) they are still Toyotas compared to the German luxury brands (BMW, MB, and Audi). Don't believe me? At the LA auto show we sat in the X5, Touareg, and GX470 back-to-back-to-back. The X5 is a great standard, the Touareg is even nicer, and the GX felt and looked like the 4-runner that it really is.
Again, not flaming Lexus...they are nice but not in same league as the Germans.
Last comment for thread starter...how about exclusivity? Try asking Lexus owners what that word means?
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C32
My previous car was also a 1999 bmw328.
I was trying to decide between M3 and C32. Mind you that I have always been driving a bmw since I got my licence (17 y ago).
After driving both cars the choice was very easy.
C32 it was.
Why ? as stated by someone above "I selected my C32 because it offered the best of both worlds - Performance and luxury.
"
I cant agree more.
I was trying to decide between M3 and C32. Mind you that I have always been driving a bmw since I got my licence (17 y ago).
After driving both cars the choice was very easy.
C32 it was.
Why ? as stated by someone above "I selected my C32 because it offered the best of both worlds - Performance and luxury.
"
I cant agree more.
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I had a GS400 before my C32 and it is not even a contest. I wouldnt even get in a GS ever again. The Lexus is at the end of its run and is due for a remodel within a year or two. Get the C32, the car is so much better, not as good on gas but much more elusive. It demands that second look and the market is flooded with worthless GS's as my neighbor just sold his 2001 GS430 for 30K. He paid 40k for it 8 months ago and the car had 11k miles on it when he sold it. GET THE C32!!!!
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thanks guys
hey thanks a lot guys for all the respond
my bugdet is about 56K so either i can get a used c32 or a fully loaded GS430, i know the GS is about to redesign withing maybe 1 or 2 years but it's been my favorite car since it was out in 98.
i test drove one of my friend's slightly modded GS400 and the handling was pretty good in terms of its size. of course its not comparable with my 328i but good. i really appreciate the un-biased answers from "silva" because personally i think lexus does have good quality but i never had a MB so guess i cant really judge on that..btw i never had a chance to test drive the c32...any of you guys are kind enough to give me a ride?? i am in LA area, pasadena. any of you are around that area??
thanks again guys
my bugdet is about 56K so either i can get a used c32 or a fully loaded GS430, i know the GS is about to redesign withing maybe 1 or 2 years but it's been my favorite car since it was out in 98.
i test drove one of my friend's slightly modded GS400 and the handling was pretty good in terms of its size. of course its not comparable with my 328i but good. i really appreciate the un-biased answers from "silva" because personally i think lexus does have good quality but i never had a MB so guess i cant really judge on that..btw i never had a chance to test drive the c32...any of you guys are kind enough to give me a ride?? i am in LA area, pasadena. any of you are around that area??
thanks again guys
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if your budget is around 56K... OTD for everything... i would sugguest still getting the lexus. unless you could find a C32 that is used in the LA area. i think its pretty impossible. they are hard to come around. but of course if you are not in a hurry... you could aways wait.
house of imports in buena park has a almost stock C32 on the showroom. im pretty sure you can get for aruond 58K OTD.
you can give them a try.
i knew i was gonna get flamed for sayin lexus is better... its just that my C32 hasn't been treatin me well lately. and my dealer is not helping either.
Jerry
house of imports in buena park has a almost stock C32 on the showroom. im pretty sure you can get for aruond 58K OTD.
you can give them a try.
i knew i was gonna get flamed for sayin lexus is better... its just that my C32 hasn't been treatin me well lately. and my dealer is not helping either.
Jerry
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I got my C32 for $57K out the door.
Just shop around, you might find one with your price range.
I'm sure GS430 is a great car but it will be a better car if it got the turbo in it.
I'm sure GS430 is a great car but it will be a better car if it got the turbo in it.
