Next Project Car: C32 or C55 for High 11's on DR's
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Next Project Car: C32 or C55 for High 11's on DR's
I'm doing some research about a future project daily driver. Thinking C32 or C55 and goal is to modify it to get into the high 11's or 12.00000's on Drag Radials. It will not be a purpose built drag car, but I'd like that level of power.
It will just be a fast modified daily driver.
Which platform is better bang for the buck and ease of modification, access to aftermarket parts: The C32 or the C55?
The C32 appears to be faster stock vs the C55.
The C32 already has a poweradder, so that's a plus in my book..... it's easier to up the boost, tweek the I/C / pump, and exhaust, tune to get to my goal.
The C55 has more displacement...... BUT I suspect is not power adder friendly due to high c/r. And I've read the C55 just doesn't respond to bolt-ons like the C32.
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C32 to the 11's: Port/Polish Heads / Intake / Blower
Smaller pulley
Better I/C / Pump
Better Exhaust
Tune.
Will I need to upgrade fuel injectors? fuel lines? fuel pump?
Is there any wgt removal you can do to these cars to cut 100-400lbs to get to the 11's? without making it into a hooptie?
The Fox Chassis Mustangs can remove wgt below 2800lbs by removing sound deadening, chassis bracing behind doors, bumpers, behind dash, etc..... Prob not the ticket for a MB.
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Alt option..... for just a little more $$ I could get a used E55 and get a pulley/tune........ is this the cheapest/quickest way to high 11's?
It will just be a fast modified daily driver.
Which platform is better bang for the buck and ease of modification, access to aftermarket parts: The C32 or the C55?
The C32 appears to be faster stock vs the C55.
The C32 already has a poweradder, so that's a plus in my book..... it's easier to up the boost, tweek the I/C / pump, and exhaust, tune to get to my goal.
The C55 has more displacement...... BUT I suspect is not power adder friendly due to high c/r. And I've read the C55 just doesn't respond to bolt-ons like the C32.
......
C32 to the 11's: Port/Polish Heads / Intake / Blower
Smaller pulley
Better I/C / Pump
Better Exhaust
Tune.
Will I need to upgrade fuel injectors? fuel lines? fuel pump?
Is there any wgt removal you can do to these cars to cut 100-400lbs to get to the 11's? without making it into a hooptie?
The Fox Chassis Mustangs can remove wgt below 2800lbs by removing sound deadening, chassis bracing behind doors, bumpers, behind dash, etc..... Prob not the ticket for a MB.
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Alt option..... for just a little more $$ I could get a used E55 and get a pulley/tune........ is this the cheapest/quickest way to high 11's?
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I don't think any C32's (even with spray) have achieved high 11's.
If you want a platform that'll go 12.000 or 11's, you'll probably need:
C55 w/ a blower or nitrous and every bolt-on
C32 w/ every bolt-on plus a reasonably large shot of nitrous.
Since they're lighter, you could also consider a SLK32 or SRT-6 and be right there with the most common mods (assuming a sedan isn't a requirement).
If you need a sedan, a w211 E55 might be a good choice - assuming it doesn't exceed your budget (they're pretty reasonable these days, for cars that originally cost +/- $90k). Stock, they're low 12's (a couple freak ones are high 11's). Some basic mods gets 'em to mid-11's.
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Low 12's
For some reason I'm drawn towards the C32. We just sold our C230, it was a great car but lacked power.
I wonder if I'd be happy with mid-high 12's on a highly modified C32 or if I'd wish I would have ponied up for the E55.
With the pulley/exhaust/chip to make a C32 run high 12's...... will it run high 12's all day long..... or will it get heat soaked in traffic and run like a dog pretty quick. Keep in mind i"m in hot houston..... 90-100 Deg F Summers......
I run a blown mustang that heat soaks bad in the summer.... IAT's go up and the computer pulls timing and power goes way down after a full pulls or if I'm stuck in traffic.
I'm guessing I should find a clean 03 or 04 E55 and modify play with that.
I like the light wgt and smaller platform of the C32 though.
I wonder if I'd be happy with mid-high 12's on a highly modified C32 or if I'd wish I would have ponied up for the E55.
With the pulley/exhaust/chip to make a C32 run high 12's...... will it run high 12's all day long..... or will it get heat soaked in traffic and run like a dog pretty quick. Keep in mind i"m in hot houston..... 90-100 Deg F Summers......
I run a blown mustang that heat soaks bad in the summer.... IAT's go up and the computer pulls timing and power goes way down after a full pulls or if I'm stuck in traffic.
I'm guessing I should find a clean 03 or 04 E55 and modify play with that.
I like the light wgt and smaller platform of the C32 though.
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do a -10 *fan mod, let h/e and cm30 pump. add a separate resovoir in the trunk for added fluids for the i/c and a 180 tstat and you shouldnt have to worry about heat soak in texas
dragtimes lists 17 c32's with times from 12.8 to 12.3 so its very doable.
the e55 times are easily in the 11's but at a much higher cost. bottom line buy what you like the most
dragtimes lists 17 c32's with times from 12.8 to 12.3 so its very doable.
the e55 times are easily in the 11's but at a much higher cost. bottom line buy what you like the most
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this c32 is from a fellow member and sponsor here on the forum.. i believe he has every possible mod available for the c32.. has fastest 1/4 mile on dragtimes.com you should definitely shoot him a pm..
this c32 is from a fellow member and sponsor here on the forum.. i believe he has every possible mod available for the c32.. has fastest 1/4 mile on dragtimes.com you should definitely shoot him a pm..
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...ht_1242wt_1167
this c32 is from a fellow member and sponsor here on the forum.. i believe he has every possible mod available for the c32.. has fastest 1/4 mile on dragtimes.com you should definitely shoot him a pm..
this c32 is from a fellow member and sponsor here on the forum.. i believe he has every possible mod available for the c32.. has fastest 1/4 mile on dragtimes.com you should definitely shoot him a pm..
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all I got is bolt-ons Seems to be responding well. Do not let the 11:1 scare you. This motor is very over engineered and can handle alot. If this was a "standard" Mustang motor it would explode at the boost i'm running. It is my conclusion the transmission will crap out before the motor will.
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For what you want the e55 is hands down the best choice. The 32 just cant be [daily driver] modded to that extent and the 55 has very little aftermarket performance options (outside of a 15K force induction package)
The only downside to a E is if you want that big of a car
The only downside to a E is if you want that big of a car
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Most of the time; the c55's are faster by a few tenths of a second, over the c32's stock. However, it is much cheaper and easier to mod the c32's since they already are supercharged.
I agree with everyone else; go for a E55 if you want big power. I was considering purchasing one before I got my C55 but I chose to get the C55 because its relatively uncomplicated motor/suspension and its a tad bit sportier to drive around the bends than a e55.
I agree with everyone else; go for a E55 if you want big power. I was considering purchasing one before I got my C55 but I chose to get the C55 because its relatively uncomplicated motor/suspension and its a tad bit sportier to drive around the bends than a e55.
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if you want straight line performance, i say just go with e55. The interior is nicer and easier to mod for high hp. I think the suspension is too soft for my tastes..but for drags doesnt really matter as much.
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Same can be said for the C55. The aftermarket for the 55 isn't exactly cheap and there aren't many options out there. It takes a blown 55 to get big numbers. By big, I mean more than a bolt on 32.
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You can get a used Kleemann twin-screw blower for around $4K these days. That automatically bumps you up an extra 150bhp.
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