Magnus,
I agree with you. I just don't understand why Brandon and Cory are so conservative. I have a 2.2 litre twin screw. The 65mm pulley made 12psi and my 70mm made 9-10psi without even breathing hard.

A larger crank pulley by only 20mm should have a minimal impact on hp drain according to FD. I've seen Mustangs running Kenne Bells on a 2.2 litre up to 24psi without any problems and making 800rwhp. btw...We all know the Kenne Bell is the same Autorotor but with a different housing.

I asked for a more aggressive tune and he said my tune already have more advanced timing than the 55K S4 tunes.

He told me that ASP does welds the outer ring on the stock pulley and they will fall apart. He also mentioned that ASP does not balance their pullies but did not know if that has changed. Well it has, ten years ago ASP was not as advanced but today they have state of the art equipment and technology.

Regardless, I'm still going to try my 175mm pulley as I still doubt it will create that much more heat. BUT...I could be wrong and if so...I have no choice but to go monster turbos. My 9:1CR has must need boost to survive from this point on.

 

Because they play safe!! They sure know their stuff and provide great custumers service BUT that doesn't give them the right to tell people where the limits are on their products, cause they just havn't tried them all.

As long as it says KLEEMANN on your S/C they will always play safe! Trust me, i've been three times to the KLEEMANN headquarter in Denmark and talked to the CEO and Working shop manager, and everytime they told me these "behind the scenes" information Specially on these "old" M113 engines that have been converted to F/I. They have grown to big now and care more for the newer models. And with that said, the service i have got from KLEEMANN USA (Cory) is like 1000 times better then from KLEEMANN Denmark, the people in Denmark basically just don't give a f*ck!!

Yes, you have the same S/C as in the Kenne Bell setup, 2,2 L/R and nobody is going to tell me that you can't push that S/C to more then 12 psi

I think KLEEMANN is thinking like this. "Lets just share information if the customer has kept his mods to KLEEMANN stuff, if not we are just going to tell them that it ain't going to work...That way we are safe..."

In your case, running 18 Psi, they think that their Fuel system won't manage to keep up with that much boost contra fuel support. Again, they are thinking WITH stock injectors,stock fuel pump,stock TB and so on and on...

To be honest, KLEEMANN stuff isn't that complicated as they sometimes assume they are. It's basically as top mounted S/C with a IC, a fuel system that rapes the stocj injectors with 8 bars of fuel pressure and working at almost 100%, and a raped signal to the MAF to keep it under the famous 5 volts

If it sounds like i'm disappointed with KLEEMANN, it's becuase I am!! Haha! I'm now working with a vendor that has much more knowledge when it comes to taking my car to another level, just like you are doing with your C55.

 

Kleemann still thinks that the E55k SC's are 1.8L and mine is 2.0L, yet when Vadim measured both Havoc's SL55 OEM blower and mine both had nearly identical length x width and height. Vadim insists that the 1.8L are for the C32s and SLK32s while the E55K blowers are 2.3L and mine being almost identical in size is 2.2L. This is another indication that Kleemann may be more conservative BUT Cory/Brandon do some crazy custom projects IF you bring the car to their Colorado Springs shop. It seems support and commitment for one-off will be weaker unless you bring the car in the shop like they already suggested to me.

Edit: The Kleeemann 6 cylinder blower is 2.0L..The V8 blowers are 2.2L

 

what?

so in this blurb of theories you gave us, perhaps the kleeman blower is an upgrade over the factory c32 blower?

 

but...the 1.8L OEM blower has a 2:1 step up gear inside which is separate from the drive ratio (crank pulley dia/SC pulley dia) which makes it spin twice as fast given the same drive ratio.

 

now i am extremely lost as well.....should i go twin turbo too? i want to build my c55 up as well and thought that i could get that crazy hp as well. from what i have heard there is no way to get it out of my motor...as in to bore the motor out due to the lack of available metal to do so from the block. is that our problem? i see mustangs with v8's with 1000 hp...and supposedly we have a better and stronger motor so why cant we do it as well? the most i was told would be about 600-650hp from the motor....so about 525-550rwhp...that of course is the headers/exhaust/port and polish/heads/cam/sc and i am assuming bigger injectors, fuel pump, intercooler, fuel rail and chip....i dont know...im no expert like u guys seem to be...i was just told that number would be the max for my motor. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as ive saved up 30k to start the additions on the car. i have a custom exhaust, headers, port and polish done, cams, chip and the s/c done already....i havent even run her yet as ive been in iraq but will be looking to see what numbers she puts down when i come home. i would be willing to drive to meet u guys somewhere..or maybe we can have a meet setup again....this time i can show up.

 

Getting back to the original post. If you do decide to sell the Kleemann set up I wouid be interested. I would like to come down and go over the removal to if possible.

 

Well we will find out real soon as I go on the dyno tomorrow.

Only things still not installed are the bigger injectors, fuel pump, 170mm crank pulley and Meth kit.

 

If you're tuning on the stock C55 injectors, Your going to run out of injector well before what you feel is a great power number.

 

Truth! There's no point on tuning on stock injectors, you will have to retune when you put bigger injectors and pump anyway. Stop dumping money for absolutely no reason.

 

I was planning just getting a baseline with this new motor. The bigger injectors, fuel pump and crank pulley will need a custom tune that Kleemann will no longer provide. I may need to ask DynoComp or Eurocharged for a quote to custom tune this baby after the final pieces go in.

 

And the saga continues..........