transferred

haha, howd u figure that? Power to weight of a 650 and c32 are a helluva lot closer than a m6 ana c32...

-Rob

TemjinX2

uhmmm do you even know his mods?

650i is 3900 lbs and 360hp crank. He has a c32 with a code3 pulley and power chip tune at 3700lbs and around 320-333whp, thats about 400-416hp to the crank.

And yes he would destroy a 650i with those mods, not even close.

How about you figure out the facts before you post stupid comments like that?

jturkel

i'm with temjin on this one. 650is are not quick compared to the c32. a stock c32 would pull on a 650...definitly the OP would pull quick hard on one.

transferred

Really? Well the facts say an M6 would pull on a 650 far easier than a c32 would on a 650...just look at the power to weight.

the fastest most heavily modded c32 on dragtimes {loung14} trapped 115, all the other "modded" ones are way down in the 103-109 range as rickar said and the only people arguing this are the c32 owners...no disrespect but us v12TT and v10 guys seem to knows what's up and a c32 w/green filters is barely beating a 650 and not close to an m6...

-Rob

transferred

watch your mouth with the insults, did you mom teach you no manners...he's listed his barely mods young 'un

you c32 guys venture out of your little forum to the kills sectiobn and you'll see the whole rest of us are sighing

-Rob

Dingleberry

c32 has nothing for an m6 from a roll.

stop dreaming folks...

jturkel

i trap 112 at high temps on 91 octane.....running mid 12s (12.5s-12.6)

here is my M6vsC32 thread....read it and read it well.....perhaps you will understand/agree with some of the factors that must be taken into consideration

https://mbworld.org/forums/kill-stor...vs-bmw-m6.html

and take a look here
http://dragtimes.com/BMW--M6-Drag-Racing.html

and notice the times and trap speeds. trap speed as low as 111.5....and times ranging from mid 13s to mid 12s (in our range...i'm aware there are lower times, but i'm only mentioning those in the C32 range)....definitely in the C32 range.....so in a 1/4 mile from a dig? it is 100% possible to hang with an M5/6....from a low roll, it is entirely possible.......up top? 85+ no.......i would say not....and thats why i ask you to read my thread which addresses a race between the two.

transferred

Two things I wanna make clear before i read it... i know you have a quick c32 and also I respect the c32 as a car. I like them and would happily rock one so apologies if I gave the impression i didn't respect the car in its own right. it's just like the m3, many owners can get carried away.

I'm gonna read your link now but it already seems like you and i are more in agreement than we at first thought, certainly c32s can run great elapsed times and can shock "the big boys" at the lights...that's where the fun is at many times

to make clear agin tho a m6 trapping 111 has an ill person behind the wheel

-Rob

jturkel

haha rob,

i have no disagreement with you and i think we are seeing relatively eye-to-eye. i just want to clear up that i feel that it IS possible for a C32 to keep up and maybe pull a little bit....most likely scenario would be an extremely high modified car such as mine, loungn's, grammas, or silverbullets....and from a dig or low roll up to just before 100....where the tq difference on the C32 makes a larger impace....up top, i still feel (and you will read this in the thread) that the M5/6 will pull up top....i'm not debating that..i dont know from personal experience, but just from accounts i have read....and well, some common sense idk........obviously numbers are numbers, but to update those numbers in that thread i linked you to, i actually put down 360whp and 380wtq on the dyno dynamics....i dont recollect what i wrote in that thread.

and no, i'm not taking it personally or against the car. i'm well aware of its limits and have had my share of stompings....just saying that there IS a chance.

as per trap speeds, we all know that there are so many variables to consider...and while driving is extremely important, so is DA. my buddy's LS1 camaro traps 112 in phx but 107 in tucson...why? DA in phx was 3000....DA in Tucson was 6500. so many factors.

MBH motorsports

M6's in a stock form are gutless when it comes to torque. They make power up top but, when you got like a 100wtq over a stock M6, you will have some get up and go. Not go and then get up like the M6...

TemjinX2

I have posted in the kills section, most of us already said the m5 should win on the top end. But your statements clearly depict your lack of knowledge how much power a modded c32 puts down.

It would show greater maturity if you just admitted you didn't know what you talking about and how much power he was really putting down then trying to change the subject and trying to insult me.

MBH motorsports

wanna see a C55 (not mine) beat an M5 V10? Lets just say this is one way to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBvXVe-UIb8

W203Ramos

street racing is completely on a league of it's own......and can not be compared to drag times and 0-60 or 1/4 mile runs. there's just too many factors. use some common sense

nice kill and thanks for sharing

TemjinX2

so true.

W203Ramos

Thericker

The text in the OP thread state "He ran an M6 from 75 mph -140 mph twice w/the MUCH less modded c32 than (jturkel) taking lead both times" Absolutely impossible & should be chalked up as mentally divergent M6 driver or silly re-badged 6 series, not heralded as a serious Victory for lightly modded c32

Some peeps around here need to excercise a little common sense before posting

jturkel

haha oh pinsler...still cant believe how fast he traded away that M6....

shocking that it only put down 390whp and 280wtq.....makes much more sense now

same dyno and nearly the same day/conditions of my last dyno, i put down 30 less whp and 100 more wtq......and with that weight difference....definitely feasible to at the least keep up with. thanks for that dyno post mike. good stuff!

jturkel

i know. i think i posted somwehere in this thread or in the one in the kills section that it is hard to believe that a c32 with those mods would keep up and it would likely require a more heavily modded one like that....and that doing that down low is one thing but up top quite another.

we're in no disagreement. same page.

Thericker

I agree on 0-60 (worthless inmop) also 1/4 ET's have little bearing on real world street comparo's, yet Trap speeds are indicitive of a cars TRUE power/speed the M5/M6 have EZ 8-10 mph trap edge over lightly modded c32 in question, that equates to train lengths being pulled @ 75-140 mph

splinter

Yep, had a go with a neighbor’s 650.

A beautiful machine, but he couldn’t hang…and he wonders why I’m regularly dicking around in the garage. Wasn’t ‘til the twisty bits when the lowly - mildly tweaked - C32 thoroughly redeemed itself.
His stocker has far more pleasant bark when it fires up in the morning, and I pretend not to notice M5/6s.

No discounts on subsequent visits to his successful dental practice, though. :D

Koru_Kinshi

Jeez, everyone calm down.

I can tell you for certain it was an M6. It had that particular sound their V10 engine makes because it revs so high. If it was a 650, I would've killed the damn thing. I was holding onto 550i's when I was bone stock. And another thing, who really cares about numbers and such? I barely won and I'm happy about it.

God, everything I post half the time ends up in a flame war. I posted a topic about BRAKE PADS once and it exploded into a flame war.

Tomorrow I'm going to dyno my car and find out its specs. I'll let you know what happens then.

Quicktwinturbo

I'm sorry but M6 /M5s are MONSTER after 90 or 100mph...

transferred

you began the insults, but i'm done talking with you corona kid... you should step aside and let your more esteemed c32 brethren do the talking before you taint the whole brotherhood...

mbh motorsport vendor gent....m v10s dyno 420-430 regularly (not 390) and tq means squat unless it's an in-gear race or someone wants to win by getting a huge jump...so not sure of the relevance of your post

I'm over this...many have spoken up to say m's from a med/high roll-on will devastate even a well modded c32 and it's been nice discussing with classy members like jturkel who seem to know a bit about working under hoods like me...

-Rob

CLKCLK

Most people here have a very high post number (500-thousands) so I am assuming no one in this thread is posting sh***t.

It's good to show who knows what

If you kill one, enjoy it and try to kill it again if you think you can.

If you think no way, keep your thinking, spend your time on other fun things why bother?

Just let it go people

hooleyboy

Show me a dyno-dynamics run that a stock m6 puts down 420-430? Maybe on a dynojet. Turkle's C32 would put down a much bigger number on a dynojet. Point is the C32 would have a nice whole shot on a m6.

I could show you 100 M v10 dyno runs..However until it happens for us all see there will be speculation. The relevance of the dyno post shows that a modded C32 could hang or at least have the benefit of the doubt.