hooleyboy

We I've been thinking about what the next big move it with this 55 is...

I've come to a cross roads with wondering what over the top mod I could do. With everything I do, its kinda go big or go home. Example, resently got into R/C planes... So I go out any buy the biggest baddest engine I can put on this R/C plane. With in 10 minutes My plane was split in two from a very epic crash.. I laughed it off.. Or another example, My YFZ450 ATV.. The engine on that thing is so decked out. Its almost undriveable.. and I love it.

Being that I could get my hands on an SL55 engine and wiring harness. Thats an option.. Or should I just go for broke and stuff a V12 under the hood? (I dont know if it will fit, but I would make it) What ever move i do I'm saving my pennies now...

BTW dont tell my lady, I'll end up like Matt Damon in Rounders. Girlfriend-less for making a stupid (Fun) move.

As for "MAYBE" selling this engine.. There is nothing wrong with it at all, 53K 482whp 580wtq (Dyno Dynamics) Of course I would sell it with the magic tune that makes this whole thing work. Anyway just thinking about it.

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HOOLEY'S C55 BULLET!

hooleyboy

I dont think the v12 will physically fit, But v12s are common place at the shop so a tape measure could give me a ballpark. Needless to say I need (want) to make a big move.

BigBodyBenzC240

Just saw this in the parting out section. Maybe he can hook you up with the engine since you did say SL55 engine.

https://mbworld.org/forums/parting-o...55-2004-a.html

JonMBZ

put the 65 engine in there. I don't think you will get to a point where you are happy with the SL55 engine you will end up building it up and then wanting to sell that one.

blackbenzz

V12TT =

Biscuit

If you're going to be pulling the engine I would go for broke and try to stuff the V12 in there. No idea if it would fit... But a C55 with that engine would certainly get you lots of attention which would be excellent if you plan on growing MBH.

hooleyboy

If i could fit it I would do it in a heartbeat. That v12 is just big. i see some 600 motors kicking around, but why not just go for broke with the 65. I bet I would be happy with a ***** o the wall 55k motor.

AMGSC

Still interested in the block I have sitting in my garage for $300? You bore that baby out to 6.1 sleeve it put some monster turbos on it. You've got Dynocomp backing you so tuning for it won't be a problem. It would certainly be one of a king. I would do it but I just dumped a ton of money into two exotic superbikes.

edit: I will also throw in a set of Ross Racing pistons (forged 9:1 CR) but they are scuffed along the ring area for $200 more. I think they can be reworked by Ross for a nominal fee to match a bored out 6.1 block.

Anyone but Speedybenz interested in this opportunity to build a one-of-kind monster on a budget?

ABALONE

How much can the M113 rods and crank handle before giving in on a highly tuned after market S/C car? Like mine,AMGSC,Hoolyes,Blackbenzz and others?

rockjock

Honestly Mike-I like you-and what you have to add to this forum-work on getting the C55 done done before you start to tear into it-what good is a V10 or V12 with 10.5 rims? I think you either A need a better car to mod and keep the C55 as a DD (think Porsche GT3 or Evo IX) or B-start to buy more hookers with your money (I hear Turkle needs to get laid )

blackbenzz

$300 shipped? Is this for just a bare shortblock out of a W209 CLK55? I wouldn't even attempt what you mentioned with it though lol. By the way, unless those pistons were made for a bigger bore they won't work if you plan on going 6.1L
Rods and crank are supposedly forged. The pistons are the weak point (and the compression works against us). I tried contacting cometic to get a thicker MLS head gasket made to lower compression but they can't do it There is only one way to find the limits... I am taking my car to the next level (for me) within the next week and a half if everything goes as planned

jturkel

WOOOOOAH lol ........where did THAT one come from? haha......i think Hooley can vouch for my women for me on this one haha.

hooleyboy

Yep Turk gets my seconds.... he seems to enjoy them after i'm done.

Just Kidding of course Turk can pull some dimes... We go out drinking and chicks are texting him some crazy stuff, like what they want to do to him. Turk gets drunk dialed all the time... Between him and My brother (hoolamonster) they can pull some fine looking ladies. My brother is way out of hand. He is with a new hot chick all the time.

back on point.... I think the 55NA can take 14psi peak (guessing) Its a stout motor. I've even heard these pistons are stronger then the 55k's Do I know that as fact..no

if someone finds the boost level higher than my 10psi peak and 7.5 at redline PM me.. I love power. I might just toss on a 180mm pulley from my 168mm and see what happens.

AMGSC

No the shipping would prolly add another $50. It's a M113 NA block from my C55. Yeah the pistons won't work unless you stay at 5.4L.

A core exchange for this block is $1,800 (www.mercedesengines.net) and you can't even find them on the open market easily. I'm practically giving it away. The other alternative is to buy a salvaged engine for around $3K and just bore it out but you would be throwing alot of the other parts out since you can re-use the stock crank, timing chain, heads, etc...

AMGSC

btw...if you are changing the pistons out to E55K specs then the stock rods will NOT work since they would be too long. What will happen is that they will break your oil cooler nozzles off the inside of your cylinders. This will basically cause lubrication of the cylinder walls to cease and bring an immediate end to your project.

Did you already get the shorter E55K spec rods to match the pistons?

TruTaing

Hooley, As much as Id like to see a ya do a v12 TT in a c55 body, wouldn't the m156 engine directly fit? It already fits in the w209. Wouldn't it fit into a c55 nicely? I imagine the m156 is more advanced and probably more capable than the older the NA m113 5.4 or even the v12s?

From a business standpoint, I'm sure those 63 guys would love to see what you've got in store for them. For some reason I imagine you strapping a SC onto the top of one of these engines and going NUTS.

Either that or its time for a new car all together :x

ABALONE

Nope, they are not a copy of the E55K spec, they are JE custom made pistons around the spec of the stock Mahle N/A piston but made for a F/I setup. 9.5:1 CR.

AMGSC

I think you still better check the length of travel of the rods after attachment to your new pistons. I almost made the mistake of keeping my stock C55 rods.
The thicker/wider ring area may force your wrist pins down a centimeter or two. This will cause your stock rods to travel further down the cyclinder and thus will come in contact with your oil cooler injectors. They will break off and the engine will be complete toast. If you have already done your diligence on this then great.

Viper98912

Dude, 65.

wawy

If I were you I'd consider moving up into a 63 something (C63 perhaps) and turbo or supercharge it..

AMGSC

but the CR...the ECU, electronics, etc... I never heard anymore about the guy who was trying to TT his CLK63. Anybody know what's the status on that project?

ABALONE

I see your point, but it's no problem. I guess they would break the oil cooler injectors at start up if it was a problem with the rods. I've been driving my car with the new pistons and rods and there is no problem.

AMGSC

Ok. You are already driving! So we are both up and running already then. Great! So are you running with the larger injectors too? Has it been tuned with the modified pullies yet?

PC Valkyrie

I second this suggestion. The 6.2L V8 should fit in the C55 (like it fits in the CLK63 AMG). High reving, high torque AMG engine in a small W203 C-class which should be lighter than any "63" AMG car out there. I'm surprised nobody has considered doing this. The only headaches may be electronics and whether there are compatibility problems with the old 5 speed transmission.