Ronald

By the time the SLK 55 AMG will be available it has to face the 997.

Ronald

IanPooley

Hi Ronald,

Auto Motor und Sport reported that AMG plans a small W 203 C 55 edition. But I know that these mags often aren´t right...

Are you sure that the new Porsche will be named 997? I don´t cuz the 993 model was designed 1993 and the 996 was designed 1996 of course. It´s hard to believe that Porsche´s new one was designed in 1997?!

PS: I twice called MKB but they didn´t answer the phone [C 32 4 pipe exhaust]

Regards,

Ronald

Auto Motor Sport prints every rumour you can think of (their website still says that a CL cabriolet will be built by AMG), but we'll see. I think a C 55 (W/S 203) would be a great idea because I simply don't really like the V6 Kompressor engine.

At least that's what every magazine is reporting.

So far, I never had any trouble getting them on the phone as long as you call within their business hours. I've e-mailed you an old MKB price list for the C-class (W/S/CL 203) so that you have something to read while you wait

Ronald

IanPooley

Thanks for the list Ronald!

Why dont´you like the V6?

Ronald

The V6 Kompressor get's the job done very well, but I just miss the smoothness and easyness of a V8. The V6K always feels a bit edgy and stressed in comparison.

But most of all I don't like the sound: The engine itself sounds like a vacuum cleaner on steroids and no matter how you modify the exhaust, you just don't get the dark, powerful pure sound that gives you goosebumps: http://www.amg-owners-club.org/multimedia/sound/c55.wav
(and that's just a 16bit / 8KHz recording from a digital photo camera!)

Ronald

C320_Avantgarde

The 5.5L Supercharged V8 from the E55, S55 etc. won't fit into a C-class. Even if they could fit it in, the extra weight of the engine would adversely affect the car's handling.
Just look at the new CLK55 for example - it has a 5.5L V8, NA making 270kW. Why didn't Merc. fit the supercharged V8? Simple. It wouldn't fit inside the comparatively small engine bay.

Ronald

The non-sc 5.5 l V8 is just 20 kg heavier than the V6 kompressor, so the handling will not be affected at all and if it will fit in the new SLK then it could also fit in a C-class.

I'm very glad the CLK 55 didn't get the V8 Kompressor - the car is almost perfect the way it is. Personally, I currently even prefer driving my CLK 55 instead of the SL 55 (unless I get a chance to drive with the roof down). Even Bernd Mayländer (German Touring Masters and F1 safety car driver) told me this weekend that he prefers the CLK 55 to the SL 55.

@Ian: Become a member of the club and we can switch cars on our way to a club event so that you can really feel the difference between a V6 Kompressor and a pure V8 even though the performance is the same.

Ronald

IanPooley

Hi,

first of all the CLK 55 has no Kompressor cause the performance would be equal (or better) like the SL 55. Thats only price politics.

@Ronald: Thank you very much but my father has the SL 55 and my mother will get her E 55 next month so I know how easy the V8 moves the car If you suggested to drive the C 55 to test the standart AMG Super V8 engine its OK cause I drove the W209 CLK 55 AMG before. Nice....

C ya,

Harris

Dad has a SL55, Mom has a E55, Son has a C32! Thats what I call a perfect family!!

steve s

hehe...if u think it's bad on supercharger...think how it is on the turbo.....phhhhhssss....tssss...phhhsss

C320_Avantgarde

Did he say why?

Ronald

The car feels a lot more direct (steering and on the brake and gas pedal), but most of it all he preferred the less weight and therefore better handling.

Ronald

IanPooley

Hi Ronald,

isn´t the W209 based on the W203? Maybe thats the reason for the good handling?

Did you ever get the chance to drive the MKB C 32 with ~500 HP?

I think Mohammad Bin Sulayan´s C 32 (Turbo and supercharged) is the fastest one

Regards,

99SlvrC43

A new member just posted picturs of his C55, Check it out


https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...951#post363951

Jano

To Ronald and all,

I currently have a C240 (w202), so inquired to AMG in Affalterbach, Germany to what could be done with my car. Sadly they said no conversion could be done to my engine. It was mentioned to me that I could only buy exhaust and other accesories...

I was told by a customized VIP products person of Mercedes-GmbH that even if serial production of the C55 engine has stopped, parts and engines can still be made.

If anyone who has a C43,(w202) please modify it at AMG in Germany at once!!! Any C43 can be modified to be a C55, (w202) with 349 horse power for a modest price of 25,000 Euros! This is not a lie, but the truth! I would seriously recommend anyone to have AMG modify their car over any other tuner...

Of course the price I stated does not include the price of shipping to and from Germany and/or IF tax has to be applied at customs. If you live in Germany on the other hand.... YOUR LUCKY!

Another conversion is the (W140) former S-class 600 engine to be a 7.3 liter, with 525 horse power for 57,000 Euros!

Now all you got to do is convert your dreams to reality!

Eurosport

Jano,
no offense but the prices you just mentioned are ridiculous
you can get it done for much much much less

jswedberg

So, Eurosport, what are the true prices charged by AMG? Certainly you can have some other company do it, but it would not be the same as "the factory".

CarlssonCRS

yo if you really wanna get your car done up. why dont you just buy the brabus C V8 engine? its a 6.1L engine that has 426Hp.. max speed of 294km/h and apparently its 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. the engine cost about 30Gs.. and if they can fit a 6.1L engine into a c-class (and c-coupe!!!) then why cant the 55 engine fit?

Zeppelin

Why not sell the C43 and buy a C32. Put $5K into the C32 and you have a 425hp/450lb-ft car for less money than a C55.

CarlssonCRS

5Gs into a C32? what mod only cost 5Gs that would push a C32 to 425Hp?

Zeppelin

Pulleys $1500 puts it at 400hp
Chip $1200 puts it at 420 - 425hp
The rest can go toward headers/intake for even more power