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Old May 1, 2011 | 01:07 AM
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Anyone here put C63 rims on their w203?

I did this about a month ago, and I am not quite sure I am happy with the result. I am using 15mm H&R spacers throughout with the stock 39mm lugs. Once the car goes over 115 km/s hour on the hwy I notice the steering wheel starts to get jittery. I hear a slight rattle in the dash and the cabin just sounds loud overall. What's funny is the problems seems worse when I have more people in the car.

I drove 2 people home from the airport today and the ride on the highway was just brutal. I could hardly hear what the passenger sitting next to me was saying and the car just felt really shaky.

I noticed this almost immediately after getting the rims put on so I took it back to my mechanic a week later to check the balance on the wheels. He said they checked out fine, but to be sure he balanced them again with the spacers on.

I didn't notice any difference in the car. I am wondering now, is this normal? I am not sure if I am over analyzing the situation because I have these rims on. I don't think the ride felt like this with the stock rims on. If I had a torque wrench I'd put my stock c55 wheels with their winter rubbers on for testing.

My summer rubbers that I have on the c63 rims is losing tread around the sides, but I still think it's enough to last the summer. Could this be a big factor? The rubbers I have on are the ones taken from my c55 rims, so I know one the setups (I think front wheels) is 10mm's smaller than what should be used on the c63.

Anyone in the greater toronto area have a setup like this? I'd be willing to meet up with you test my car, because I am not sure if this is normal or not. It just doesn't feel smooth like a benz should.

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Old May 1, 2011 | 01:54 AM
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Are the spacers hubcentric? When I bought mine, the prior owner had put spacers on the rear wheels to push them out more. They car vibrated like crazy from 70 mph up. I took them off and all was well.
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Old May 1, 2011 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BrandonS
Are the spacers hubcentric? When I bought mine, the prior owner had put spacers on the rear wheels to push them out more. They car vibrated like crazy from 70 mph up. I took them off and all was well.
+1, if not hubcentric, car will vibrate..
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Old May 1, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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How can I tell if they are hub centric? These are the spacers I bought:

http://store.allsprings.com/mercedes...112-p1623.aspx

http://store.allsprings.com/mercedes...112-p2800.aspx

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Old May 1, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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I believe all H&R Spacers over 10mm are hubcentric.
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Old May 1, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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The problem would be if they are wheel centric. For the piece that extends from the spacer into the wheel, does it fit snugly or not?
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Old May 1, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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I can't really tell if it's snug. I mean I think it is. Here are some pics:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13342393/1.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13342393/2.JPG
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Old May 2, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Snug as in the hubcentric ring that sticks out from the spacer should fit tightly in the wheel and the spacer should fit tightly on the hub.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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I have the H/R hubcentric 15mm all way around, car rides perfect at any speed, tracks perfect, couldnt be more happy with setup. I was nervous having to use spacers when i first looked into swapping rims out. Could it possibly be rim issue? slight bend that only surfaces over a certain speed?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chris.bachman
Snug as in the hubcentric ring that sticks out from the spacer should fit tightly in the wheel and the spacer should fit tightly on the hub.
From what I can tell everything looks locked into place real snug. Is it possible that the lugs need to be tighter? My mechanic told me he torqued them to what was specified with the spacers.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by moedigga
I have the H/R hubcentric 15mm all way around, car rides perfect at any speed, tracks perfect, couldnt be more happy with setup. I was nervous having to use spacers when i first looked into swapping rims out. Could it possibly be rim issue? slight bend that only surfaces over a certain speed?
I bought the rims used off of eBay. They say made in Germany on the inside and the seller had 100% score and seemed reputable. They did have some curb rash on them and the seller indicated in the auction description that the rims were checked on computer for faults and checked out OK. After getting them powder coated I can't even tell they ever had scratches on them.

If there is a bend in the rim i'd think I would have noticed it when I got them. Is this something that can be checked for? I am running out of ideas here

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Old May 2, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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A slightly bent rim could cause this and you wouldn't be able to see if with your eyes. Take it to a wheel and tire store to test them all.
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was thinking another possible albeit highly unlikely cause could be the lugnuts where over torqued and compressed 1 of or all the spacers, they are billet aluminum I believe, so very light but also soft. but would still think the lugnuts would snap in two before you could tighten them enough to alter spacer. Can you tell if the issue is coming from one corner of the car, or is it just all around? hope it works out for you, cause not much better lookin rim for a c55 than the c63 setup
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Old May 4, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Again thank you everyone for the tips and ideas in this thread, they've been very helpful. I took the car to a tire shop here named Tires 23. They did a good job on my winters last year so I figured I'd see what they know.

They suggested I do a force measure test, I am not entirely clear on how this works but they explained to me that they apply pressure to the wheels to see if they are aligned and balanced. So the shop re-balanced my tires and did the test and everything checked out fine. They gave me the below report, not sure how to read it exactly.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13342393/ForceMeasure.jpeg

They explained it to me real quick but I was late for a meeting and just needed my car. I was worried cos they found nothing wrong, but they did re-balance the tires so I was hopeful. I immediately got on the highway and fell in love with my car again. Took it up to 160km and it felt super smooth! I guess my first mechanic just doesn't know what he's doing.

Again, thanks everyone!
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Old May 4, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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Is this for real? You need longer lugs you are in serious danger driving the car with 15mm spacers and stock lugs. I wouldn't be driving over 25mph.
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Old May 4, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Is this for real? You need longer lugs you are in serious danger driving the car with 15mm spacers and stock lugs. I wouldn't be driving over 25mph.
Another member on the forum told me he's using the stock lugs with the same setup. Took the car to two shops now and no one has said anything. Anyone else with c63 rims on their c55 using stock lugs?
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Old May 4, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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It depends on the thickness of the C63 wheel from inside the ball seat to the back where it contacts the hub. You need to measure that then add the spacer thickness and finally add the depth of the threads on the hub itself to know the exact size you need.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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you use the stock c55 lugs, spacers are to keep lugs from protruding to far back and then hitting calipers, the c63 rim is thinner at lugs holes than c55 rim. so you are all good.
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also asked when putting my setup together why coudnt just use c63 lugs with no spacers, but this is a no go, but im fuzzy as to why, it was awhile ago
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