Quickvr4

Is there a way to have the car always start and drive with traction control off?

loudandheard

The only way to do it is to manually put it in dyno mode every time, but you lose abs and a few other functions as well. I think you can drive in dyno mode, but I don't remember why it wasn't recommended.

MIKESV8

You'd be up in smoke every time you tap the throttle if you decide to drive in dyno mode.

Autotechnica

I've read this over and over again and I think some of you guys must have some really bad tires. A guy from this forum and I both track our cars, and even in dyno mode it's not easy to make the wheels spin. I can break traction if I try hard by brake boosting to about 2000rpm. Aside from that, they usually just chrip and I'm off. I've read of people spinning their tires in 3rd gear on a stock car with dyno mode on. BS! Honestly, lay off the cheap china/korean made tires. Get some good tires like RE-11's and see what happens. I see a lot of people with Hankook V12's or Yoko S-drives, budget tires belong on lightweight cars with smaller engines, not our cars. There's plenty tire width in the rear to deal with the power our cars output.

/rant

Dyno mode specifically disables ABS, TC, ESP and BAS. This means that there is no brake assits. I prefer this as the brake pedal feels a lot more direct. You could always pull the fuse, though I have not tried this. I like ABS. I can live without the rest. I hate feeling the sudden thud in the rear as the rear brakes are applied automatically when the rear end is about to step out. Happens quite often now with the H&R rear sway set to full stiff.

Bry

Zeebrock

I think these guys are talking about a C55 not a C32. I have Kumho Ecsta XS tires in a 265/35x18 rear and I can easily light up the rears from a stand still with no brake torque on the street with just the ESP de-activated.

Quickvr4

+1. my car, even when it is 100 degrees out will easily roast the tires with esp off from a dig.

03MBC32

My 03 will stay in dyno mode even after shutting the car off and restarting. I believe this is possible only on 03-04's.

Edit -Subject line should read Dyno Mode Permanent Enable

BTW, I'm the "other guy" Autotechnica mentioned. I cannot "ROAST" the tires if they are warmmed up from a stand still. Only by power braking - not recommended. The car is not a dog in a straight line as several surprised high end cars have found out at the track.

Zeppelin

Anyone with a C32 in dyno mode that cannot spin the one tire off the line needs to get their car looked at.

EVOII_Racer

I didn't drink my coffee yet but.. what is dyno mode?
There is a special setting apart from ESP on/off

Autotechnica

My car is fine. Dyno'd not too long ago at 300whp/333trq stock. Nobody is really listing what tires they have. I can spin the tires if I brake boost, hammering it off the line without brake boosting after the tires are warm does nothing but chirp the tires. Again, try a decent set of tires. Sub $250/tire isn't decent IMO.

Zeppelin

I have NT-05's on the street and it does not matter. You know in dyno mode only one tire spins, not both.

Quickvr4

Trying to bring this thread back alive...

Viper98912

Starting the car with control systems on is a government requirement upon engine startup for all new cars.

Plus, I personally don't see a benefit. Traction control has probably saved me a few times without even knowing it.

pointman

lol.

Autotechnica

congrats, another useless post by pointman. I bet at least 3,000 of your 4,213 posts are either LOL or LMAO, just sayin...

pointman

LMAO.

macbryanie

I switch the ESP on the dash off pretty much every time I drive but never in the wet. Recently the brother inlaw destroyed his car in the wet sweeping a turn with cruise control on his car slipped and he claims no assists kicked in until too late (cruise control?) Resulted in 20k damage on the bimmer. With the ESP off in the dry the c32 is great fun (good year F1's stick but cant harness an angry amg) ESP off will still kick in when its hits the edge but allows the car to spin and not bog down at take off etc... but I dont have the ***** to play without ESP on in the wet and am a little scared of the dyno mode also.

91RS

I'll agree good tires are a must. When my car was stock, with the Michelins it wouldn't spin off the line. Plus they ride great. Good tires are worth the money every time.

dustyr

im running continental extreme contacts on my c32. I can easily spin the tires in 1st with just a shot of throttle moving or stopped . Hard acceleration from 20 mph will spin the tires and the traction control will flash well into 2nd gear. These are supposed to be good tires for day to day driving.

chris.bachman

I'm having a Quaife LSD installed as we speak, I have a feeling I'll be doing a lot more driving with ESP off.

Zeebrock

If you dont mind sharing, what is the breakdown of the cost? Parts/install.

thx

John

chris.bachman

I believe you can get a Quaife or WaveTrac in the neighborhood of $1000 and the install time is around 8-10 hours. Depending on the cost of labor at the shop you use it could come in at around $1500 for parts and labor.

I wish I could be more specific but I didn't have to pay for mine so I don't know the exact breakdown and I'm not about to ask the generous party to show me a full print out of cost.

91RS

Just the differential will be around $1000, then about $250 more for bearings, seals, sealant, and gear oil. I can't help you on the labor for install, I did mine myself.