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Old 06-12-2003 | 03:26 AM
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Hello , C32 owners

my friend has a C32 now , everthing is in stock , and he is wondering that is it possible to mod. his car has over 400HP
since he just wanna be more fast on straight line , is it possible to install or upgrade the supercharge eg. kleemann supercharge kit .....
sry that I duno anything about the C32 amg , so I would like to get any advice from u guys , thank you very much ^^
Old 06-12-2003 | 03:31 AM
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pulley upgrades! either renntech or evosport offers it

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Old 06-12-2003 | 03:31 AM
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400hp is not hard to achieve on the C32.
Old 06-12-2003 | 03:35 AM
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thank you very much for the quick reply ^^

by upgrading the pulley kit , how many Hp would be gain ?
also , is it possible to install a Kleemann supercharge kit on the C32 amg ?
thx a lot
Old 06-12-2003 | 05:07 AM
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I don't think you can put another supercharger on top of the AMG supercharger. However Pulley, exhaust and ECU upgrade should easily bring you 400 HP at the crank.
Do a search on the board and you will find lots of information about tuning.
Keep in mind that not all C32 come with the same HP from the factory. Some have 300 HP at the weel, mine had 279 and some had even less. So to know how much you are gaining you should really know how much HP you have before doing any mods.
Old 06-12-2003 | 09:05 AM
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You cannot use a KLEEMANN supercharger on topof the AMG unit and it makes no sense to replace the existing unit. KLEEMANN has a pulley and ECU upgrade combination that can easily push you over the 400 crank HP mark.

Our system is typically raising hp by 45 to 50 and tq by 55 to 60, $3500.

You should test the car before and modifications to see where you are- we have seen C32's vary a great deal in the power they make from the factory.
Old 06-12-2003 | 10:51 AM
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And if your C32 dyno's low don't sweat it - I read where a guy from AMG says that all AMG motors meet the specified rating and the others are as much as 5 percent more. So if we beleive this then all motors make 349hp and some as much as 366hp.

I personally am not going to beleive the outcome of anymore of these C32 dyno's. I have seen to many inconsistencies with the same car. It seems the heat soak in the intercooler and the ECU retarding timing geatly affect the outcome.
Old 06-12-2003 | 02:26 PM
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Sure AMG can make this comments ... who is gonna take out the entire engine and test the HP on the crank ! But then again who cares what comes out of the crank when you need the power on the wheels !
Sure there may be some heat related issues but ask the Evosport guys ... they have tested and retested for the OPDS R&D. They will tell you that there are HP differences regardless of heat soaking or any other factors.
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Originally posted by KLEEMANN
You cannot use a KLEEMANN supercharger on topof the AMG unit and it makes no sense to replace the existing unit. KLEEMANN has a pulley and ECU upgrade combination that can easily push you over the 400 crank HP mark.

Our system is typically raising hp by 45 to 50 and tq by 55 to 60, $3500.

You should test the car before and modifications to see where you are- we have seen C32's vary a great deal in the power they make from the factory.

kleenman! your pulley kit is out? or is it to be announced?

Jerry
Old 06-12-2003 | 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by SiLvaC32
kleenman! your pulley kit is out? or is it to be announced?

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yea...what the hell. Ive never heard anything about a kleeman pulley or ecu. prices and details please.
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Originally posted by bverotti

Sure there may be some heat related issues but ask the Evosport guys ... they have tested and retested for the OPDS R&D. They will tell you that there are HP differences regardless of heat soaking or any other factors.
What I'm saying is you can dyno the same car one day and it my show 290hp and you do it another and it is at 280hp. Just like my pulley kit that originally showed 10hp gain. Then 20 minutes later it shows a 30hp gain.
Old 06-12-2003 | 06:49 PM
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The cats out of the bag- yes we now have AMG Kompressor tuning products.

The C32 AMG details are listed in my previous post
Old 06-12-2003 | 07:00 PM
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are there going to be details on EVOSPORT's website? or... on anywhere? ie dyno graphs and such...

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Old 06-12-2003 | 07:36 PM
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The HP numbers vary from C32 to C32. I fthe car has not been driven hard, in some case doing several runs in a row will pick up as much as 20HP as DME adapts to WOT runs.

This was the case with Tim as his car did not fully adapt to ODPS.

The cars that are low today will still be low 10 days from now. I fthe same testing procedure is used the results are very repeatable.

For optimum results, doing before dyno is always recommended.
Old 06-13-2003 | 03:45 AM
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Tahnk you very much for all the replies

and a final Q , my friend just wonder if he can install a big turbo kit on his C32 .... is it possible ???

thx a lot
Old 06-13-2003 | 04:58 AM
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I know there is 1 Arab guy who had in done and got about 500 HP. Do a search on internet and you will find it.
However I must disappoint you because it was a one time installation. In fact I talked to the engineer that designed the whole installation a couple of weeks ago (MKB guy). The car works, but due to its extremely complex mods the car is not your daily driver anymore ...
Old 06-14-2003 | 02:33 AM
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thank you very much , i will tell my friend about ur advice , thx again ^^

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