Changing oil, not fun
Ran the car for a minute to stir all the crap up. I then took the filter housing off which involved a lot of force with my 3/8 wrench, I am not sure how some of you do it with your hands. Using the extractor to get the oil out is a very clean procedure but f*ck the filter assembly drips oil all over the place, I recommend a rather large rag/towel to put around/under it to get it out of the engine bay. I have never owned a car which doesn't cause a huge mess when changing the oil filter.
I am stuck on a couple of things. The oil filter assembly... from what I can tell the long plastic thing which sticks into the engine does not come out of the plastic cap for the filter right? There are 3 O-rings I can see but the oil filter came with 4. Is there a hidden one or does it just come with an extra O-ring?
Also how long does it take you guys to suction all the oil out? Mine is literally dripping into the container. With a lot of vacuum it will become a small trickle at most. It took about 20-30 mins to get about 2 quarts. Is this right?
I'll post some pictures when I am done for anyone else. I have done dozens of oil changes on japanese cars but this is a whole new boatload of fun.




Unscrew the filter and leave it loose in engine. This will cause it to depressurize and most of the oil that's in it will dump into the pan. Then you can take off the filter with minimal spillage.
There are only 3 rings on the stem and the large one on the cap. There is an extra.
- jack up car, put on stands
- pull panels off underneath car (about 6 bolts or so)
- pull out filter (top side of engine)
- screw out drain plug under car
- get new filter squared away and installed (don't remember exactly now, I just pull the old one, replace orings/seals and put it back in
- if oil is done draining, put plug back on then panels and take car of stands(or ramps, hate those myself)
- reset oil interval inside car (see video on youtube for that)
oh, I personally wouldn't have run the car before draining oil, when you do that the oil is circulated so you really then need to let the car sit for a bit to let it all settle in the oil pan again before draining.
I think you sound right on the oil filter, I believe I remember not having to use all four orings (as this filter isn't just specific to our own model it's likely needed for a different application)
Last the mobile 1 you bought is the European spec, correct?
Last edited by testknight; May 23, 2012 at 03:40 PM.

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I hear ya; its $198 AUD for 10l of M1 0w40 for me. I am considering going either Liqui Moly Leiehtfauf High tech 5w-40. http://www.liqui-moly.de/liquimoly/w...szi8jz9uh.html
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I hear ya; its $198 AUD for 10l of M1 0w40 for me. I am considering going either Liqui Moly Leiehtfauf High tech 5w-40. http://www.liqui-moly.de/liquimoly/w...szi8jz9uh.htmlThis is the oil I got and the 76mm 14 side filter cap socket.


I bought two of these filters on ebay incl shipping for less than one at MB here.

On a brighter note, this came today.

They look great from a distance, I guess just don't look too closely. The flanges are really thick and the design is very good. The construction is in general very good, all mounting surfaces are smooth and the airflow looks like it would be great. An extrude hone wouldn't be enough to smooth the inside and the welds... but I'm sure they will flow a lot more than the stock manifolds so thank you eurocharged, I might do a dyno when they are in.
Last edited by tw2; May 24, 2012 at 05:38 AM.
If this is imperial, it would covert to about 6.73 US quarts. When you refill add the same amount you took out and use the dyno mode to check the level. Easier to add than take out and waste that expensive oil.
Also, to aid in suctioning (as Viper mentions), unscrew the filter assembly, and the oil fill cap, and leave them open while you're sucking out the old oil. My Mityvac pump isn't terribly fast, and I suspect it doesn't seal 100%, but I still am able to change the oil in an hour or two, without having to get on my back or messing with ramps, jackstands, etc. Pretty easy and clean swaperoo.
I read the volume wrong, I got about 6.9-7.0 litres which is about 7.3 US quarts so it looks like I got all I needed to after all. I have put about 6.5L back in and I will check the level and top it off tomorrow. I guess the joy of the extractor pump is you can easily remove excess oil although I agree it is not a good idea to waste it at the price it is.
The extractor is leaking around the fitting that is removed to pour excess oil away. Now that it is covered in oil it might seal better otherwise I will have to try and find a better O-ring.
Can oil level be measured on a cold engine? The manual is not very clear except to say wait 5 minutes after reaching operating temperature.
I read the volume wrong, I got about 6.9-7.0 litres which is about 7.3 US quarts so it looks like I got all I needed to after all. I have put about 6.5L back in and I will check the level and top it off tomorrow. I guess the joy of the extractor pump is you can easily remove excess oil although I agree it is not a good idea to waste it at the price it is.
The extractor is leaking around the fitting that is removed to pour excess oil away. Now that it is covered in oil it might seal better otherwise I will have to try and find a better O-ring.
Can oil level be measured on a cold engine? The manual is not very clear except to say wait 5 minutes after reaching operating temperature.
Is the usual "oil level ok" enough to go on? The manual says it will tell you if you need to add 1.0, 1.5, 2.0 etc litres or reduce oil volume.
If anyone could please tell me how much it should say is in there using dyno mode, that would be great. I cannot see it anywhere on the forum.
Also, the hose that you use to extract the oil –
If cut at too big of an angle, it leaves too much oil in the sump (which may be why some folks say vacuuming doesn’t extract all the oil). If the hose is left flat, it may sit flat on the bottom of the pan and impede vacuum.
..... @ tw2 might as well smooth those headers out with a dremel b 4 you put them in.
Last edited by W203Ramos; May 26, 2012 at 12:58 AM.
Also, the hose that you use to extract the oil –
If cut at too big of an angle, it leaves too much oil in the sump (which may be why some folks say vacuuming doesn’t extract all the oil). If the hose is left flat, it may sit flat on the bottom of the pan and impede vacuum.

229.5 Multigrade engine oils (Specification 229.5)
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PRODUCTNAME 0W-30 0W-40 5W-30 5W-40 PRINCIPAL
8100 X-cess MOTUL SAE 5W40 x Motul , AUBERVILLIERS CEDEX/FRANCE
ADDINOL SUPER POWER MV 0537 x Addinol Lube Oil GmbH, Leuna/Deutschland
AeroShell Oil Diesel Ultra x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Agip SYNTHETIC PC SAE 5W-40 x ENI S.p.A. - Refining & Marketing Division, ROM/ITALY
ALPINE Longlife SAE 5W-30 x Mitan Mineralöl GmbH, Ankum/Deutschland
Alpine RS 0W40 x Mitan Mineralöl GmbH, Ankum/Deutschland
ARAL HIGH TRONIC M SAE 5W-40 x Aral Aktiengesellschaft, Hamburg/Deutschland
ARAL HighTronic M SAE 5W-30 x Aral Aktiengesellschaft, Hamburg/Deutschland
ARAL SUPER TRONIC G x Aral Aktiengesellschaft, Hamburg/Deutschland
ARAL SuperSynth x Aral Aktiengesellschaft, Hamburg/Deutschland
ASTRIS MAGIS SAE 5W-40 x Astris S.A., 6745 GIORNICO/Schweiz
AVIASYNTH 5W-40 x Avia Mineralöl-AG, München/Deutschland
Biloxxi 5W-30 x MCC Trading Deutschland GmbH, Düsseldorf/Deutschland
bp superV Plus 5W-40 x BP p.l.c., LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
bp Visco 5000 5W-30 x BP p.l.c., LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE 0W-30 A3/B4 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol Edge 0W-40 A3/B4 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE 5W-30 A3/B4 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE Professional A3 0W-30 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE Professional A3 0W-40 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol Edge Professional A3 5W-30 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE PROFESSIONAL A3 5W-40 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE Professional Diesel 5W-30 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol EDGE TITANIUM 5W-40 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol Edge with SPT SAE 0W-30 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol Magnatec Professional A3 5W-40 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Castrol SLX Professional Longtec 0W-30 x Castrol Limited, SWINDON/UNITED KINGDOM
CEPSA star 5W40 SYNTHETIC x Cepsa Lubricantes, S.A., MADRID/SPAIN
Cepsa Star Mega Synthetic 0W-30 x Cepsa Lubricantes, S.A., MADRID/SPAIN
Chevron Supreme Synthetic Motor Oil x Chevron Global Lubricants, GENT/ZWIJNAARDE/BELGIUM
Consol Ultra x Vial Oil Ltd., FRYAZINO, Moscow region/RUSSIA
Divinol syntholight MBX SAE 5W-30 x Zeller+Gmelin GmbH & Co. KG, Eislingen/Deutschland
elf EXCELLIUM 0W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Elf Excellium Full Tech 0W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Elf Excellium Full-Tech 5W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Elf Excellium Full-Tech 5W-40 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Engen Xtreme Syn 5W-40 x Engen Petroleum Ltd., JOHANNESBURG 2000/REPUBLIC of SOUTHAFRICA
Everyday Full Synthetic 5W-40 x Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd, WANTIRNA SOUTH/AUSTRALIA
EVOLUTION OEM Series I 5W-30 x TOP 1 Oil Products, San Mateo, CA/USA
EVOLUTION OEM Series I 5W-40 x TOP 1 Oil Products, San Mateo, CA/USA
Fastroil Premium Plus SAE 5W-40 x HILL Corporation, Shymkent/KAZAKHSTAN
Fina FIRST 600 0W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE 5W-40 x Fuchs Petrolub AG, Mannheim/Deutschland
Fuchs TITAN Supersyn Longlife SAE 5W-30 x Fuchs Petrolub AG, Mannheim/Deutschland
G-Energy F Synth 5W-30 x Gazpromneft-Lubricants LTD, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
G-Energy F Synth 5W-40 x Gazpromneft-Lubricants LTD, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
G-Energy Service Line MS 5W-30 x Gazpromneft-Lubricants LTD, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
GALP Active 3000 M 5W40 x Petrogal S.A., LISSABON/PORTUGAL
GALP FÓRMULA XLD SAE 5W-40 x Petrogal S.A., LISSABON/PORTUGAL
Gulf Formula GMX x Gulf Oil International, London/ENGLAND
Gulf Formula GX x x Gulf Oil International, London/ENGLAND
Havoline Ultra BM x Chevron Global Lubricants, GENT/ZWIJNAARDE/BELGIUM
LIQUI MOLY 5W-40 LEICHTLAUF HIGH TECH x Liqui Moly GmbH, Ulm/Deutschland
LOTOS SYNTHETIC PLUS SAE 5W40 x Grupa Lotos SA., GDANSK/POLAND
LOTOS SYNTHETIC TURBODIESEL PLUS 5W40 x Grupa Lotos SA., GDANSK/POLAND
LubriGold Full Synthetic 5W-40 x Warren Oil Company, Inc., WEST MEMPHIS, AR 72303-2048/USA
LUKOIL GENESIS 5W-40 x OOO LLK-International, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
LUKOIL LUXE MC x OOO LLK-International, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
LUKOIL LUXE Synthetic x OOO LLK-International, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
master oil v-tec Premium 0W-40 x Interparts Autoteile GmbH, Stuttgart/Deutschland
MB 229.5 Motorenöl A 000 989 83 01 x Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
megol Motorenoel High Condition x Meguin GmbH & Co. KG Mineraloelwerke, Saarlouis/Deutschland
Mercedes-Benz PKW-Synthetic Motorenöl Blatt 229.5 x Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
Midland Synqron x Oel-Brack AG, HUNZENSCHWIL/Schweiz
Mitan Alpine RS 0W-40 x Mitan Mineralöl GmbH, Ankum/Deutschland
Mobil 1 0W-40 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil 1 Arctic 0W-40 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil 1 Formula M 5W-40 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil 1 New Life 0W-40 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel 0W-40 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil SHC Formula MB 5W-30 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Mobil Super 3000 Formula M 5W-30 x Exxon Mobil Corporation, FAIRFAX, Virginia/USA
Motul 8100 X-max 5W-30 x Motul , AUBERVILLIERS CEDEX/FRANCE
Motul 8100 X-max 5W-40 x Motul , AUBERVILLIERS CEDEX/FRANCE
Motul Synergie Tech+ 5W40 x Motul , AUBERVILLIERS CEDEX/FRANCE
OMV BIXXOL special BM SAE 5W-40 x OMV Refining & Marketing GmbH, VIENNA/Österreich
Pennzoil Platinum European Formula x Pennzoil-Quaker State, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002/USA
Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra x Pennzoil-Quaker State, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002/USA
Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 Full Synthetic x Pennzoil-Quaker State, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002/USA
PENRITE HPR 5 5W-40 x Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd, WANTIRNA SOUTH/AUSTRALIA
Pento High Performance 5W-30 x Deutsche Pentosin-Werke GmbH, Wedel/Deutschland
Premium Synthetik Motorenöl x Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
Q European Engine Ultra x Pennzoil-Quaker State, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002/USA
Q Horsepower Full Synthetic x Pennzoil-Quaker State, HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002/USA
Quaker State Synquest x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
RAVENOL HCL x Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH, Werther/Deutschland
real,- Quality GSR 5W-30 x real,- Handels GmbH, Düsseldorf/Deutschland
REPSOL ELITE Common Rail 5W30 x Repsol YPF Lubricantes y Especialidades, S.A., MOSTOLES - MADRID/SPAIN
ROWE SYNT RS SAE 5W-30 HC-D x ROWE Mineralölwerk GmbH, Bubenheim/Deutschland
ROWE SYNT RS SAE 5W-40 HC-D x ROWE Mineralölwerk GmbH, Bubenheim/Deutschland
Shell Helix Diesel Ultra x x x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Diesel Ultra E x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix HX8 x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix HX8 C x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Ultra x x x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Ultra AB x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Ultra C x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Ultra E x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
Shell Helix Ultra Extra Polar x Shell International Petroleum Company, LONDON/UNITED KINGDOM
smart Motoröl 5W-30 x Daimler AG, Stuttgart/Deutschland
SRS ViVA 1 Longlife x SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH, Salzbergen/Deutschland
Statoil LazerWay 5W-40 x Svenska Statoil AB, STOCKHOLM/SWEDEN
Statoil LazerWay TDI 5W-40 x Svenska Statoil AB, STOCKHOLM/SWEDEN
SynPower HST x The Valvoline Company, LEXINGTON, KY/USA
SYNTIUM 3000 x PETRONAS LUBRICANTS INTERNATIONAL, KUALA LAMPUR/MALAYSIA
TAMOIL SINT FUTURE RACING x Tamoil Italia S.p.A., MILANO/ITALY
TECAR Special M Motorenöl 5W-30 x Techno - Einkauf GmbH, Norderstedt/Deutschland
Texaco Havoline Synthetic Motor Oil x Chevron Global Lubricants, GENT/ZWIJNAARDE/BELGIUM
TNK Magnum Ultratec x TNK Lubricants, LLC, MOSCOW/RUSSIA
Total Activa Energy 9000 0W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5W-40 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Total Quartz Energy 9000 0W-30 x Total Lubrifiants, PARIS la Defense Cedex/FRANCE
Valvoline SynPower 5W-40 x The Valvoline Company, LEXINGTON, KY/USA
Valvoline SynPower HST x The Valvoline Company, LEXINGTON, KY/USA
Westfalen Gigatron 0W-40 x Westfalen AG, Münster/Deutschland
YACCO VX 1600 0W30 x Yacco SAS, ST PIERRE LES ELBEUF/FRANCE
ZIC XQ 5W-30 x SK Lubricants, DAEJEON/Rep. of KOREA







