New pics! 2004 C55 ///AMG
07-09-2003, 03:26 PM
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2003 C32
Originally posted by C32Andy
I test drove a 03 CLK 55 a while back and i felt the C32 is definitely faster than the CLK 55
I test drove a 03 CLK 55 a while back and i felt the C32 is definitely faster than the CLK 55
The CLK55 does have great balance though; it was easy to put into corners at AMG Challenge (though I enjoyed pushing the CL55 more..that car and I got along verryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy well!
07-09-2003, 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Carl AMG
Does the C32 NEED a V8 to compete or to be marketable? We're already faster than the newer (and heavier) V8 6 spd. manual S4. Is it going to necessarily be a better car because it has a V8?
I'm not even sure what to make about the comment "So thats about all the cars the C32 can compete with"
Does the C32 NEED a V8 to compete or to be marketable? We're already faster than the newer (and heavier) V8 6 spd. manual S4. Is it going to necessarily be a better car because it has a V8?
I'm not even sure what to make about the comment "So thats about all the cars the C32 can compete with"
And whats wrong with making a car faster? Thats almost like saying MB should not have put a V8 Kompressor in the new E55 becuase the old was was fast and already kept up with M5's, why would they need to have one faster than the M5?
Its all about being top dawg man. With your thoughts its like saying why is Mercedes still making a C240 if the C230 Kompressor sedan is faster and cheaper. WHY? who knows only Mercedes know the reasons.
Why aren't u sure what to make about my comment "that thats the only cars being compared to the C32"? All i am going by is what i saw in magazines, and you obviously even know the S4 was competition so what else do u feel compares to the C32 well? I would love to hear your answer. It seems like u took that as an insult or something?
07-09-2003, 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by oggle
You know what's missing? They should flare out the fenders like how BMW did with the M3s vs. regular 3x's.
You know what's missing? They should flare out the fenders like how BMW did with the M3s vs. regular 3x's.
Yeah, i was hoping that they would do something to the body to differentiate it from the other C's. Flared fenders, Quad exhaust like all the new AMG's, something, but i guess not
At least give it 18' shoes....
07-09-2003, 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
Did i say it needs a V8? your the one thats said its all about marketing and i agreed. I NEVER said it was needed. I also NEVER said its gonna make the car better.
And whats wrong with making a car faster? Thats almost like saying MB should not have put a V8 Kompressor in the new E55 becuase the old was was fast and already kept up with M5's, why would they need to have one faster than the M5? Its all about being top dawg man.
With your thoughts its like saying why is Mercedes still making a C240 if the C230 Kompressor sedan is faster and cheaper. WHY? who knows only Mercedes know the reasons.
Why aren't u sure what to make about my comment "that thats the only cars being compared to the C32"? All i am going by is what i saw in magazines, and you obviously even know the S4 was competition so what else do u feel compares to the C32 well? I would love to hear your answer. It seems like u took that as an insult or something?
Did i say it needs a V8? your the one thats said its all about marketing and i agreed. I NEVER said it was needed. I also NEVER said its gonna make the car better.
And whats wrong with making a car faster? Thats almost like saying MB should not have put a V8 Kompressor in the new E55 becuase the old was was fast and already kept up with M5's, why would they need to have one faster than the M5?
Its all about being top dawg man. With your thoughts its like saying why is Mercedes still making a C240 if the C230 Kompressor sedan is faster and cheaper. WHY? who knows only Mercedes know the reasons.
Why aren't u sure what to make about my comment "that thats the only cars being compared to the C32"? All i am going by is what i saw in magazines, and you obviously even know the S4 was competition so what else do u feel compares to the C32 well? I would love to hear your answer. It seems like u took that as an insult or something?
1. Chill out don't take it personally...I'm not addressing my answer to you but to the people who have been posting like this car would be a big improvement. Remember this is a forum.
2. My whole point is who says this is going to be faster or handle better!? If MB really wants to compete it'll take more than an engine change to a naturally aspirated V8. Note the comments from those of us that have driven the new CLK55.
3. I'm talking solely about the evolvement in what I assume to be one AMG model in the U.S. but if we'll have multiple AMG C class cars MB will need to differentiate between the models better. Who needs two engines in the same chassis that both make around 350hp?
4. I think the S4 and M3 are the direct competitors but not the only ones in terms of performance characteristics. I said I really didn't understand your last comment in the first place. You seem a little sensitive; I meant no offense.
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07-09-2003, 04:57 PM
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Porsche Turbo Stage 4, Cayenne S ... gone C43, C32, ML55 & Ducati 999.
Originally posted by ChrisC32
At least give it 18' shoes....
At least give it 18' shoes....
....as the CLK55
07-09-2003, 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Carl AMG
I think the S4 and M3 are the directcompetitors but not the only ones in terms of performance caharacteristics. I said I really didn't understand your comment. You seem a little sensitive; I meant no offense.
I think the S4 and M3 are the directcompetitors but not the only ones in terms of performance caharacteristics. I said I really didn't understand your comment. You seem a little sensitive; I meant no offense.
I still dont get what u did not understand about my comment. But oh well.
07-09-2003, 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
I'm not sensitive. Your post seemed like u wanted to know everything from me like i knew the reasons.
I still dont get what u did not understand about my comment. But oh well.
I'm not sensitive. Your post seemed like u wanted to know everything from me like i knew the reasons.
I still dont get what u did not understand about my comment. But oh well.
From my perspective, you seemed to imply that the C32 can't compete. I simply pointed out I couldn't be sure if that's what you meant to be able to comment.
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07-09-2003, 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Carl AMG
From my perspective, you seemed to imply that the C32 can't compete. I simply pointed out I couldn't be sure if that's what you meant to be able to comment.
From my perspective, you seemed to imply that the C32 can't compete. I simply pointed out I couldn't be sure if that's what you meant to be able to comment.
07-10-2003, 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
No, you may have taken that the wrong way. It was more of a plus the way i ment it. How many other 4 door sedans and coupes that can seat 5 people under are 55 grand can the C32 compete with? not many besides the M3 and S4. Just goes to show u the C32 is a fine car with not much like it. Why not make it even better? if possible.
No, you may have taken that the wrong way. It was more of a plus the way i ment it. How many other 4 door sedans and coupes that can seat 5 people under are 55 grand can the C32 compete with? not many besides the M3 and S4. Just goes to show u the C32 is a fine car with not much like it. Why not make it even better? if possible.
07-10-2003, 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by Marko
That's just it-the '04 doesn't appear to be 'even better'. In fact, they may have taken a step backward with the V8.
That's just it-the '04 doesn't appear to be 'even better'. In fact, they may have taken a step backward with the V8.
07-10-2003, 03:21 AM
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you guys sure those pics are not pshoped? I'm pretty sure those two picture of the sedan are photoshoped from these two picture. They are very good photoshop tho.
only the red wagon looks like the real facelifted one, but I don't see the headlight shape change on it
only the red wagon looks like the real facelifted one, but I don't see the headlight shape change on it
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07-10-2003, 04:21 AM
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one more thing. I hope they still keep the C32 and have the C55 as a special vehicle that you can only order in Europe like couple years back when they had the C43 and C55 at the same time.
as for cost, you can look at the 202 C55 as reference because they are pretty much the same. I remember the C55 cost a whole lot more than the C43.
as for cost, you can look at the 202 C55 as reference because they are pretty much the same. I remember the C55 cost a whole lot more than the C43.
07-10-2003, 03:11 PM
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photochopped?
Noooo .. coudln't be ...
I mean, the clouds ALWAYS form up the same way when benz goes out for photoshoots, right?
They did do a good job in the details, such as moving the driver's instrument cluster to the correct side of the vehicle and turning the license plate around.
I've got a funny feeling we'll either:
A) Not be seeing a C AMG at all next year
or
B) See one as a very late entry, as suggested earlier.
Based on other folks' '02 and '03 orders, it would seem as if my '04 should arrive around the same time as theirs did, and it's just not happening.
I mean, the clouds ALWAYS form up the same way when benz goes out for photoshoots, right?
They did do a good job in the details, such as moving the driver's instrument cluster to the correct side of the vehicle and turning the license plate around.
I've got a funny feeling we'll either:
A) Not be seeing a C AMG at all next year
or
B) See one as a very late entry, as suggested earlier.
Based on other folks' '02 and '03 orders, it would seem as if my '04 should arrive around the same time as theirs did, and it's just not happening.
07-10-2003, 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Marko
That's just it-the '04 doesn't appear to be 'even better'. In fact, they may have taken a step backward with the V8.
That's just it-the '04 doesn't appear to be 'even better'. In fact, they may have taken a step backward with the V8.
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07-10-2003, 07:09 PM
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NA over supercharged anytime
you'll see in a few years
your C32's are still too new, reliability will be a factor
from what i have heard 5.5 will go into the 203 body next year for sure, will it make it to the states? i don't know that yet.
but if it does, just getting my chances of finding the right 5.5 for my 36 increased by a LOT. hehe go ahead and wreck some now
you'll see in a few years
your C32's are still too new, reliability will be a factor
from what i have heard 5.5 will go into the 203 body next year for sure, will it make it to the states? i don't know that yet.
but if it does, just getting my chances of finding the right 5.5 for my 36 increased by a LOT. hehe go ahead and wreck some now
07-10-2003, 07:18 PM
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2003 C32
Originally posted by CRB
If you consider an AMG 5.5 L V-8 a step backward from the blown six, perhaps you should start opening the garage door before you start your car. Even if the new car is a couple of tens slower to sixty, I believe that the C55 will be the true heir to the C43.
If you consider an AMG 5.5 L V-8 a step backward from the blown six, perhaps you should start opening the garage door before you start your car. Even if the new car is a couple of tens slower to sixty, I believe that the C55 will be the true heir to the C43.
Wow, it sounds better..of course, I just plowed my rear quarter panel into the wall. Yep, that's a zero sum game.
07-10-2003, 07:19 PM
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2003 C32
Originally posted by Eurosport
NA over supercharged anytime
you'll see in a few years
your C32's are still too new, reliability will be a factor
NA over supercharged anytime
you'll see in a few years
your C32's are still too new, reliability will be a factor
Your mileage may vary.
