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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 07:08 AM
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Getting Quad Exhaust Done On My C32 Monday - ADVICE PLEASE

Hey,

so i got my hands on a nice shiney set of 4 amg tailpipes from a C55.

i have just fitted a carbon rear diffuser.

i want the car to sound good but not loud.

so this is what options im thinking....

1. get custom tail box made with exit pipe going behind bumper to other side and keep the rest of the system standard.

2. same as above but get resonator delete aswell.

3. keep resonator but do away with rear silencer and just have 2 pipes running right to back without any silencer.

4. go for full twin pipes from seconday cats right to back with a x-pipe.

im honestly thinking number 1 or 2 as i dont want it noisy or droaning as i like to go for decent journeys with wife and kids at weekends etc...i just want a nice burble on idle and a good rip on full throttle

This is the design of the rear silencer that im thinking of:





another question..... do i keep the twin tailpipes level with eachother or do i have the inside tailpipe sticking out slightly more to go with the shape of the diffuser like this:

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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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With all the conditions that you set, go with #2. Do you have headers? They will also make you car sound nicer.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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With all the conditions that you set, go with #2. Do you have headers? They will also make you car sound nicer.
+1 with Lenin's comment and staggered set up on tail pipes.. Good luck..!
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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i went from deleted resonator (not loud enough and raspy) to resonator and cat (drone @ cruising speed and flomaster like at WOT) to resonator on with 2ndaries deleted ( best sound IMO ) @ idle not noticable but has a rumble and at WOT sounds like a remus exhaust on a VR6 is the best I could describe it + the supercharger whine !!! just my 2 cents
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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Mmmmmm.

I really don't want it to be raspy/droaning/sound *****

Maybe I'll just get the back section done and leave the rest standard
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by varoom
Mmmmmm.

I really don't want it to be raspy/droaning/sound *****

Maybe I'll just get the back section done and leave the rest standard
I would go number 4 just because I have that setup. I would however, keep your resonator when you do this. Right now, my exhaust is loud. I think keeping the OEM resonator in place but deleting secondaries and muffler would be perfect.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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I would do number 4. No offence to anyone but having the pipe going across the bumper is pointless, you know it is offering no performance, in fact if anything is decreasing 0.0005hp because half the exhaust has to cross over to the other side through various bends and sharp angles. I would rather have fake tips on the other side which I would also never do.

If you are on a budget then leave it as is. If you have money to spend on it then do it properly. Start from in front of the diff. Split it into 2 pipes, 2.25 or 2.5", definitely have some sort of muffler in there so it doesn't drone, bark or just annoy you on long journeys, leave the cats, you can remove them later on if you want more noise. Loud exhausts get old quick especially when you daily drive the car.

Just my opinion, do what is right for you.
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I would do number 4. No offence to anyone but having the pipe going across the bumper is pointless, you know it is offering no performance, in fact if anything is decreasing 0.0005hp because half the exhaust has to cross over to the other side through various bends and sharp angles. I would rather have fake tips on the other side which I would also never do.

If you are on a budget then leave it as is. If you have money to spend on it then do it properly. Start from in front of the diff. Split it into 2 pipes, 2.25 or 2.5", definitely have some sort of muffler in there so it doesn't drone, bark or just annoy you on long journeys, leave the cats, you can remove them later on if you want more noise. Loud exhausts get old quick especially when you daily drive the car.

Just my opinion, do what is right for you.
So, the pipe going across the bumper is pointless in your opinion but somehow was just fine for Carlsson? The only way to get real performance out of the exhaust is to remove all cats, install headers and cut-outs into your downpies. The rest will just look nice (or not), make more noise (or not) and adds more weight (for sure). I understand your desire to do things "properly". That's what I have done (including a C55 spare wheel well and Supersprint mafflers) and the car didn't get much faster. But looks good.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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To be 100% honest I'm doing it for looks.

I've got 4 mint C55 tailpipes and a carbon fibre diffuser ready to fit.

I was just thinking while my car is at the custom exhaust shop I might aswell get the car sounding nice.

I really don't want to make it too noisy or sound raspy.

This is why I was thinking just do the rear silencer with quad pipes.

But it would be easy for the guy to do a resonator delete at the same time.

Im not doing it for performance reasons...My car is quick enuff for me and also have a s/c pulley and tune on its way so Im not bothered if I loose a horse power or 2.
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Originally Posted by Lenin
So, the pipe going across the bumper is pointless in your opinion but somehow was just fine for Carlsson? The only way to get real performance out of the exhaust is to remove all cats, install headers and cut-outs into your downpies. The rest will just look nice (or not), make more noise (or not) and adds more weight (for sure). I understand your desire to do things "properly". That's what I have done (including a C55 spare wheel well and Supersprint mafflers) and the car didn't get much faster. But looks good.
I presume they saw a gap in the market and went for it. People really want quad pipes and 99% of people want it for the looks which is perfectly fine. If they made a full bolt-on dual stainless exhaust with quad pipes it would likely be $6-10k I would guess after they had done all their R&D and bought it to markets who didn't have too many loopholes to get through regarding emissions etc. I doubt there is a market for this and hence why it was not done.

Just because a well respected company does it, that doesn't mean it is a great idea. You can't honestly tell me you think that routing half the exhaust through extra bends and another 4ft of pipe is somehow going to be beneficial vs stock?

I will be honest in saying I do not know how the stock muffler is set up. Some of them have two exits that exit from the same chamber. In that case 90% of the exhaust will go out the tip on that side of the car. The extra back pressure from the other half which has to travel to the other side of the car is going to reduce flow to that side. This might even take away from performance since you have added restriction to half your exhaust flow. Will this be measureable? probably not. I would prefer fake tips than do this, cheaper too.

A proper exhaust does not have to be outrageously expensive. Can I afford to have one made? no I can't but if I were to do it, I would get headers followed by 2 stainless 2.25" pipes, no cats, one high quality resonator on each side and one high flow but non-straight through design muffler on each side all with minimal bends and tig welded. I would expect minimal noise and maybe 20-30whp max.

Again I am just stating my opinion for the sake of a good discussion. No one needs to agree with me.
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Old Aug 6, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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Car is at shop now and this is what we decided to do tomorrow

1.Replace secondary cats with straight pipes
2.Keep standard Resonator
3.run dual 2.75 or 2.5" pipes from resonator all the way back to tail pipes.
4.if too loud will fit 3" baffle pipe just before tail pipes.

This should flow much better than one rear silencer with pipe running along behind rear bumper.

Going to try it anyway.

What do you think??
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Originally Posted by varoom
Car is at shop now and this is what we decided to do tomorrow

1.Replace secondary cats with straight pipes
2.Keep standard Resonator
3.run dual 2.75 or 2.5" pipes from resonator all the way back to tail pipes.
4.if too loud will fit 3" baffle pipe just before tail pipes.

This should flow much better than one rear silencer with pipe running along behind rear bumper.

Going to try it anyway.

What do you think??
Sounds good as long as you post up some sound clips!!
How much this gonna run you?
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Old Aug 6, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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not sure exactly how much yet as its going to be trial and error.

prob £400 ($600)

i have sent a fair bit of work his way so he is due me a favour/good price
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Sounds like an excellent plan. You can always add mufflers if need be. Dual 2.5" should be plenty. You will have trouble getting certain items in 2.75" and 3" is just overkill and difficult to keep quiet.
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As others have said, it does sound like a good plan.
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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still at shop.....

will be ready tomorrow night.

i told the guy to treat it as if it was his own....he is obviously really fussy to get it right.

which is good.

but i hate waiting aaaargh!
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