ok.. i am pissed... really pissed.. suspension issues
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ok.. i am pissed... really pissed.. suspension issues
after Mr. Harris (aka Harris 
) brought to my attention that my rear suspension is sitting lower then it should, i measured it and i realized that my rear left is sitting lower then my rear right. I took a ruler to it and found out that the left rear is sitting a few tenths of an inch lower then the right 
.. WTF. ok no big deal i thought..
so I went and grabbed my work out weights, got 4 50lb plates and 4 25lb plates totaling upto 300lbs = 2 avg. sized people, put 'em in the trunk. Then took the car for a spin.. first bump cleared with no problems... 2nd bump i hear a Big clunk noise coming from the rear left suspension, and then another dip in the road and that same noice happened.. seeming to get louder.. only happens when the suspension moves up and down. Then i had a friend sit in the rear seat and he noticed that there is rattling coming from the suspension as well.
now.. anybody with H&R Cup Kits, does yours do this with this much weight.. WTF is wrong?
can the shop mess up the install? how hard is it mess up an install?
thanks for your help in advance.
really really annoyed and pissed right now.. it's like i am jinxed with this car.
) brought to my attention that my rear suspension is sitting lower then it should, i measured it and i realized that my rear left is sitting lower then my rear right. I took a ruler to it and found out that the left rear is sitting a few tenths of an inch lower then the right .. WTF. ok no big deal i thought..so I went and grabbed my work out weights, got 4 50lb plates and 4 25lb plates totaling upto 300lbs = 2 avg. sized people, put 'em in the trunk. Then took the car for a spin.. first bump cleared with no problems... 2nd bump i hear a Big clunk noise coming from the rear left suspension, and then another dip in the road and that same noice happened.. seeming to get louder.. only happens when the suspension moves up and down. Then i had a friend sit in the rear seat and he noticed that there is rattling coming from the suspension as well.
now.. anybody with H&R Cup Kits, does yours do this with this much weight.. WTF is wrong?
can the shop mess up the install? how hard is it mess up an install?
thanks for your help in advance.
really really annoyed and pissed right now.. it's like i am jinxed with this car.
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Originally posted by tommywommy
might be that ur rear left bushing is cracked.... but who knows...
might be that ur rear left bushing is cracked.... but who knows...
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Originally posted by SiLvaC32
did they remember to install the rubber shock mounts?? thats suppose to be on top of the shock tower.
Jerry
did they remember to install the rubber shock mounts?? thats suppose to be on top of the shock tower.
Jerry
i mean the shop i got it done at sounds professional.. if they forgot to put the Bump Stops.. then wtf
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Its kind of hard for us to comment on what's wrong with your car because most of us are not mechanics, and more importantly, we are not the one who did the installation. I think you should take your car back to that shop and repeat those noises to the mechanics there. Ask them to solve the problem for you. Perhaps you can suggest to them all the possible "causes" that people are saying in here. Maybe that will ring a bell. 
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Originally posted by AMG BRED
how could that happen, the car has only 6000 miles on it
how could that happen, the car has only 6000 miles on it
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One thing to consider: Putting 300lb's of weight in the trunk is much different than two 150lb people in the back seat. On a lowered car this may be too much weight and something is bottoming out. Just because the car is 2/10ths lower on one side does not mean there is a problem.
I would have it checked out however.
I would have it checked out however.
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Originally posted by Sleestack
Bushings don't always require wear and tear to go bad. I'm not sure about the C32, however on the W208 they used rubber bushings. When I installed Kleemann shocks the load caused the bushings to break apart causing a rattling/clunking noise over bumps. Vadim at Evosport replaced them with polyurethane bushings which immediately remedied the problem and provided a slightly stiffer feel.
Bushings don't always require wear and tear to go bad. I'm not sure about the C32, however on the W208 they used rubber bushings. When I installed Kleemann shocks the load caused the bushings to break apart causing a rattling/clunking noise over bumps. Vadim at Evosport replaced them with polyurethane bushings which immediately remedied the problem and provided a slightly stiffer feel.
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Re: ok.. i am pissed... really pissed.. suspension issues
Originally posted by AMG BRED
after Mr. Harris (aka Harris ) brought to my attention that my rear suspension is sitting lower then it should, i measured it and i realized that my rear left is sitting lower then my rear right. I took a ruler to it and found out that the left rear is sitting a few tenths of an inch lower then the right .. WTF. ok no big deal i thought..
so I went and grabbed my work out weights, got 4 50lb plates and 4 25lb plates totaling upto 300lbs = 2 avg. sized people, put 'em in the trunk. Then took the car for a spin.. first bump cleared with no problems... 2nd bump i hear a Big clunk noise coming from the rear left suspension, and then another dip in the road and that same noice happened.. seeming to get louder.. only happens when the suspension moves up and down. Then i had a friend sit in the rear seat and he noticed that there is rattling coming from the suspension as well.
now.. anybody with H&R Cup Kits, does yours do this with this much weight.. WTF is wrong?
can the shop mess up the install? how hard is it mess up an install?
thanks for your help in advance.
really really annoyed and pissed right now.. it's like i am jinxed with this car.
after Mr. Harris (aka Harris
) brought to my attention that my rear suspension is sitting lower then it should, i measured it and i realized that my rear left is sitting lower then my rear right. I took a ruler to it and found out that the left rear is sitting a few tenths of an inch lower then the right .. WTF. ok no big deal i thought..so I went and grabbed my work out weights, got 4 50lb plates and 4 25lb plates totaling upto 300lbs = 2 avg. sized people, put 'em in the trunk. Then took the car for a spin.. first bump cleared with no problems... 2nd bump i hear a Big clunk noise coming from the rear left suspension, and then another dip in the road and that same noice happened.. seeming to get louder.. only happens when the suspension moves up and down. Then i had a friend sit in the rear seat and he noticed that there is rattling coming from the suspension as well.
now.. anybody with H&R Cup Kits, does yours do this with this much weight.. WTF is wrong?
can the shop mess up the install? how hard is it mess up an install?
thanks for your help in advance.
really really annoyed and pissed right now.. it's like i am jinxed with this car.
Aside from bad bushings (which are really rare for a 6000-mile old car), there are not much components that can make a clunking noise underneath your rear suspension.
Pull apart your rear trunk liners and see if there is a bolt, washer and rubber (in that sequence from top to bottom) on the shock tower rod.
If so confirmed, take you car back to the shop and have them re-tighten the lower shock bolt (16mm or 17mm) and the upper shock tower nut. Also, have them double check the spring pad if it is seated right in its perch.
If all looks good, then it could be a bad internal shock piston (we've seen this once before but it is very unlikely and rare). Check for shock leaks (moisture) around the shock body.
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thanks guys... i have made an appointment at the shop for friday morning.. only problem is the shop is 2 hours away.. anyways.. hopefully things work out.. i will keep you guys posted.
Thanks for the all the info.
Thanks for the all the info.
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Re: Re: ok.. i am pissed... really pissed.. suspension issues
Originally posted by randall-sd
First, bad bushings would have yielded the same or similar noises even before you installed your new suspension.
Aside from bad bushings (which are really rare for a 6000-mile old car), there are not much components that can make a clunking noise underneath your rear suspension.
First, bad bushings would have yielded the same or similar noises even before you installed your new suspension.
Aside from bad bushings (which are really rare for a 6000-mile old car), there are not much components that can make a clunking noise underneath your rear suspension.
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You put 300lbs on one side of the trunk or evenly throughout the trunk? Did you take the weights out to see if the noise would go away? Was anything put in the trunk with the weights to ensure that they were not clunking together?
Aside from the above, every component in the suspension can make noise when loose or not performing to spec. I'd love to spit out ideas over the web, but without being physically there, it would be nothing more than guessing.
If it is a loose part or a broken bushing, you should expect the noise to be present with or without the weights. It is possible that the weights in that position are causing the rear suspension to bottom out. Are these big or small bumps? Do you feel it or merely hear it? If the car is bottoming out, and you do not have bump stops, you can thank your installer for almost certainly damaging the strut.
Hope things work out,
Ben
Aside from the above, every component in the suspension can make noise when loose or not performing to spec. I'd love to spit out ideas over the web, but without being physically there, it would be nothing more than guessing.
If it is a loose part or a broken bushing, you should expect the noise to be present with or without the weights. It is possible that the weights in that position are causing the rear suspension to bottom out. Are these big or small bumps? Do you feel it or merely hear it? If the car is bottoming out, and you do not have bump stops, you can thank your installer for almost certainly damaging the strut.
Hope things work out,
Ben
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Originally posted by Mach430
You put 300lbs on one side of the trunk or evenly throughout the trunk? Did you take the weights out to see if the noise would go away? Was anything put in the trunk with the weights to ensure that they were not clunking together?
Aside from the above, every component in the suspension can make noise when loose or not performing to spec. I'd love to spit out ideas over the web, but without being physically there, it would be nothing more than guessing.
If it is a loose part or a broken bushing, you should expect the noise to be present with or without the weights. It is possible that the weights in that position are causing the rear suspension to bottom out. Are these big or small bumps? Do you feel it or merely hear it? If the car is bottoming out, and you do not have bump stops, you can thank your installer for almost certainly damaging the strut.
Hope things work out,
Ben
You put 300lbs on one side of the trunk or evenly throughout the trunk? Did you take the weights out to see if the noise would go away? Was anything put in the trunk with the weights to ensure that they were not clunking together?
Aside from the above, every component in the suspension can make noise when loose or not performing to spec. I'd love to spit out ideas over the web, but without being physically there, it would be nothing more than guessing.
If it is a loose part or a broken bushing, you should expect the noise to be present with or without the weights. It is possible that the weights in that position are causing the rear suspension to bottom out. Are these big or small bumps? Do you feel it or merely hear it? If the car is bottoming out, and you do not have bump stops, you can thank your installer for almost certainly damaging the strut.
Hope things work out,
Ben
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Congratulations! You have just freaked me out!!!
Sorry everyone I don't own a C32; so I'm sorrry to post here... But I do have and installed H&R Coilovers on my C230 Komp Sedan.
I am posting becasue I took my car to a place that had never done it before. But I specifically talked to the guy that was going to do the install and showed him the H&R Orange READ ME manual that says you have to take the bushings off of the MB stock shocks and place them on the H&R. I specificaly told him to do this.
Well when I got home; and looked at the inside the H&R box where they had placed my stock shocks/springs and found two plastic bushings that seem to fit on top of my back shocks???!!!!! WTF I"m gonna try to take a pic of this, and post it...but i hope they didn't screw up...
I have no problems with the car/suspension at all....but still...i want to make sure they did it right
anyone which H&R cup kits if you can post here and tell me if you got 2 bushings back with your stock stuff after the cup kit install thanks
Sorry everyone I don't own a C32; so I'm sorrry to post here... But I do have and installed H&R Coilovers on my C230 Komp Sedan.
I am posting becasue I took my car to a place that had never done it before. But I specifically talked to the guy that was going to do the install and showed him the H&R Orange READ ME manual that says you have to take the bushings off of the MB stock shocks and place them on the H&R. I specificaly told him to do this.
Well when I got home; and looked at the inside the H&R box where they had placed my stock shocks/springs and found two plastic bushings that seem to fit on top of my back shocks???!!!!! WTF I"m gonna try to take a pic of this, and post it...but i hope they didn't screw up...
I have no problems with the car/suspension at all....but still...i want to make sure they did it right
anyone which H&R cup kits if you can post here and tell me if you got 2 bushings back with your stock stuff after the cup kit install thanks
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Originally posted by Keyser_Soze
Congratulations! You have just freaked me out!!!
Sorry everyone I don't own a C32; so I'm sorrry to post here... But I do have and installed H&R Coilovers on my C230 Komp Sedan.
I am posting becasue I took my car to a place that had never done it before. But I specifically talked to the guy that was going to do the install and showed him the H&R Orange READ ME manual that says you have to take the bushings off of the MB stock shocks and place them on the H&R. I specificaly told him to do this.
Well when I got home; and looked at the inside the H&R box where they had placed my stock shocks/springs and found two plastic bushings that seem to fit on top of my back shocks???!!!!! WTF I"m gonna try to take a pic of this, and post it...but i hope they didn't screw up...
I have no problems with the car/suspension at all....but still...i want to make sure they did it right
anyone which H&R cup kits if you can post here and tell me if you got 2 bushings back with your stock stuff after the cup kit install thanks
Congratulations! You have just freaked me out!!!
Sorry everyone I don't own a C32; so I'm sorrry to post here... But I do have and installed H&R Coilovers on my C230 Komp Sedan.
I am posting becasue I took my car to a place that had never done it before. But I specifically talked to the guy that was going to do the install and showed him the H&R Orange READ ME manual that says you have to take the bushings off of the MB stock shocks and place them on the H&R. I specificaly told him to do this.
Well when I got home; and looked at the inside the H&R box where they had placed my stock shocks/springs and found two plastic bushings that seem to fit on top of my back shocks???!!!!! WTF I"m gonna try to take a pic of this, and post it...but i hope they didn't screw up...
I have no problems with the car/suspension at all....but still...i want to make sure they did it right
anyone which H&R cup kits if you can post here and tell me if you got 2 bushings back with your stock stuff after the cup kit install thanks
As for my spring pads.. how can i find out what kinda spring pads are used for my car, and if i have to buy bigger ones..where can i pick up a set? do i need to buy 4 of 'em or just 2 for the rear? i like how my front sits, the rear could use a lil help though.
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Originally posted by AMG BRED
.....As for my spring pads.. how can i find out what kinda spring pads are used for my car, and if i have to buy bigger ones..where can i pick up a set? do i need to buy 4 of 'em or just 2 for the rear? i like how my front sits, the rear could use a lil help though.
.....As for my spring pads.. how can i find out what kinda spring pads are used for my car, and if i have to buy bigger ones..where can i pick up a set? do i need to buy 4 of 'em or just 2 for the rear? i like how my front sits, the rear could use a lil help though.
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Originally posted by Harris
You need to take out the wheels and check it. Better ask the shop to check it for you. There are no spring pads in the front of your car, only at the rear. Spring pad ranges from Dot 1 - Dot 4. Dot 1 is the thinnest at 8mm, Dot 4 is the thickest at 23mm. They go by every 5mm increment.
You need to take out the wheels and check it. Better ask the shop to check it for you. There are no spring pads in the front of your car, only at the rear. Spring pad ranges from Dot 1 - Dot 4. Dot 1 is the thinnest at 8mm, Dot 4 is the thickest at 23mm. They go by every 5mm increment.
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Originally posted by AMG BRED
damn..that means i have to go to D.C. again just to check the spring pads... is there a way i can take it to a local shop or dealer and they can tell me?
damn..that means i have to go to D.C. again just to check the spring pads... is there a way i can take it to a local shop or dealer and they can tell me?
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OK, I feel a little better.... I think I'm OK the bushings that I see they gave me they are almost 1 inch thick and they are black not orange. And I'm 99% sure they did it right....mmm...not sure what to do next....
