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Old 04-19-2014, 07:02 AM
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I thought you were saying there are 800hp C55s in Sweden...?

THAT i didn´t write
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I meant running standalone with Mercedes trans. Not whether they have a built trans. With 800whp I would think it should trap alot higher than 124mph

Hey,, Don´t hack up the 1/4mile run LarsK did, it isn´t his cup of tea so to speak, that was the rookie run and only ~700hp in the video.

And,, piggyback isn´t standalone you know
the std management will run the tranny just fine as long as you don´t mess with the airmeter signals.
AND!! mounting the std mapsensor on the correct side of supercharger.
i´ve seen people connect them to the pressureside, that will ****up the management totally and the gearbox goes insane.
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Originally Posted by swedepat
Hey,, Don´t hack up the 1/4mile run LarsK did, it isn´t his cup of tea so to speak, that was the rookie run and only ~700hp in the video.

And,, piggyback isn´t standalone you know
the std management will run the tranny just fine as long as you don´t mess with the airmeter signals.
AND!! mounting the std mapsensor on the correct side of supercharger.
i´ve seen people connect them to the pressureside, that will ****up the management totally and the gearbox goes insane.
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Trap speed is not an indication of the driver, it shows the power to weight ratio. To put it into perspective my car trapped 138mph with less than 700whp. Unless when you are stating hp numbers they are at the crank, which I'm not sure how you get unless you're guessing based on wheel horsepower and taking a guess at driveline loss.

Yes I know piggyback is not standalone thanks. The map sensor should be on the pressure side If you mount it pre charger you are not reading correct boost. I'm confused, maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying correctly. Mine is on pressure side and runs fine. I've never heard of a map sensor on a boosted car being mounted pre charger.
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I meant the std mapsensor, the one that sits on front/right on engine.
That one should never see boost in N/A ecu
The mapsensor in AEM ecu connects to pressureside of compressor ofcourse.

Yes i know trapspeed is a reciet of power, however i´ve seen so many times people´s runs on the quarter do not compare to dynosheet due to different 'mistakes' on the quarter, when they have run it a couple of times the values goes to the better.
A common mistake is with beginners is that they think they can handle it just fine so they use the 'manual mode' in tranny, and they do all kinds of mistakes.
Then choosing 'S mode' and letting car do the work, the trapspeed and times usally gets better.
And with growing experiance later on they choose manual again and then starts to gain speed more than the cars ecu can do.

Seen it so many times, seen the other side of the fence too many times also, people that 'hack up' and analyses the runs with no thought of that people are people, they´re just judging by the numbers and then says, NOPE!! AIN´T possible! with no thought at all.

A common variable here in Sweden compared to the strips in US, our´s doesn´t stay prepped all day all year.
They blast it off and uses the strip for roadracing as it is a part of a roadracingtrack.
That means bad prep, that also means people uses way to low tirepressure to get them to hook up, reducing topspeed due to they roll really heavy.

You see, one shouldn´t judge too hard on dynosheets versus trapspeed without knowing all variables.

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Originally Posted by swedepat
I meant the std mapsensor, the one that sits on front/right on engine.
That one should never see boost in N/A ecu
The mapsensor in AEM ecu connects to pressureside of compressor ofcourse.

Yes i know trapspeed is a reciet of power, however i´ve seen so many times people´s runs on the quarter do not compare to dynosheet due to different 'mistakes' on the quarter, when they have run it a couple of times the values goes to the better.
A common mistake is with beginners is that they think they can handle it just fine so they use the 'manual mode' in tranny, and they do all kinds of mistakes.
Then choosing 'S mode' and letting car do the work, the trapspeed and times usally gets better.
And with growing experiance later on they choose manual again and then starts to gain speed more than the cars ecu can do.

Seen it so many times, seen the other side of the fence too many times also, people that 'hack up' and analyses the runs with no thought of that people are people, they´re just judging by the numbers and then says, NOPE!! AIN´T possible! with no thought at all.

A common variable here in Sweden compared to the strips in US, our´s doesn´t stay prepped all day all year.
They blast it off and uses the strip for roadracing as it is a part of a roadracingtrack.
That means bad prep, that also means people uses way to low tirepressure to get them to hook up, reducing topspeed due to they roll really heavy.

You see, one shouldn´t judge too hard on dynosheets versus trapspeed without knowing all variables.

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Thanks for the lesson in drag racing. I didn't quite understand all of it but I just want to clear up a few things. Do you know this guy? Do you know if he was shifting manually or if he's ever been to dragstrip before? It looks like he is running drag radials in the rear and it sounded like a clean pass. If the car really makes 800whp it should easily trap over 130 with a clean pass. Matter of fact my car trapped over 130 misfiring down the track and I make nowhere near 800whp. Tire pressure doesn't effect a drag radials mph very much, you must be getting confused with a bias ply tire (which is what I ran at 17PSI).

Track prep is a moot point for mph. Typically if you spin your mph goes up, not down. If you listen to the run it doesn't sound/look like he spun. And to run that ET with that mph he most likely didn't spin. And most tracks in the US are NOT prepped all day all year.

DA will effect trap speed but not by ~10mph.

I don't care about dyno numbers, to me the trap speed and weight tells me all I really need to know. If you have a timeslip that would make it easier to interpret as well. Either way the car is badass but people tend to exaggerate how much power their car makes.
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first things first..
are you trolling?
the video clip clearly says he runt 703hp in that clip......
sometimes i get the feeling of that people read things like belsebub reads the bible.

and YES!! running low tirepressure affects the trapspeed, i´ve been running cars on the quarter for a decade or more so i really do not need this useless conversation.

back to AMGSC´s car...
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Start a new thread on this dude LarsK car, get up some more time slips and maybe a dyno slip. That's a nice car and we all like cars, lets not turn this into a cat fight
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Exactly!
But starting a thread regarding his car?,, nope i won´t.
No use of that, it will only start a flamewar.
There are ALWAYS people that finds it funny to act like the devils lawyer and letting everyone know they knows the best, it´s like the people playing hockey etc etc from the spectators seat, they always knows best!

Back to AMGSC´s work!

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Updates?
........anything bro?
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The kit for M113K is here http://www.weistec.com/m113kscupgrade.html


I checked with Weistec if their kit was ready or adaptable for NA M113s and this is what I got back....


Thank you for your interest in our products. Unfortunately at this time, we are still in development for a supercharger system for the M113 engines and have not released any products for it yet. We will announce a finalized version once we finish development for the products.
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Car has been picked up

Car runs great! Other than an EGR malfunction error that Steve will fix soon the car is smooth but powerful. The tune is ultra conservative for running on 10psi and making 512rwhp in 90F heat which is enough for me as I insisted upon a safe tune. He offered to install a smaller pulley and a high octane tune after I enjoy the car for a few months which I will strongly consider. My turbo'd M3 which I also picked up a week ago has two tunes with the MS109 Tune making around 700rwhp and around 530rwhp on pump gas. I can't lose to a beamer even if it's my own.

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Sweet and congrats! Looking forward to hearing how it compares to your Klee auto rotor setup!
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Sweet and congrats! Looking forward to hearing how it compares to your Klee auto rotor setup!
Definitiely stronger than the Kleemann Autorotor. It's got about 50% more displacement and you feel it. It is quieter too because the SC is not spinning as fast.
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Definitiely stronger than the Kleemann Autorotor. It's got about 50% more displacement and you feel it. It is quieter too because the SC is not spinning as fast.

A video of the engine running and maybe a nice drive off would be great
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A video of the engine running and maybe a nice drive off would be great
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I wonder what this kit would make on a stock motor...? 450whp?
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I wonder what this kit would make on a stock motor...? 450whp?
I would think more since the CR is higher on stock motor and I am running low boost (9-10psi).
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How about boosting 28psi and run E85 fuel?
nahh..

But are there any plans of upping the boost?
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Congrats! Looks like the long wait paid off. Glad you are happy with the results

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I would think more since the CR is higher on stock motor and I am running low boost (9-10psi).
I agree. On stock bottom end you get higher compression and more power.
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A video of the engine running and maybe a nice drive off would be great
I will do that as soon as I get the EGR malfunction fixed from my dealer. It should be done by tomorrow. If they can't fix it then Weistec will need to turn it off permanently through the tune.

Edit: I just found out from the dealer that Weistec completely removed the EGR unit! Only the electrical sensors are still in place so basically there is nothing the dealer can do. I will need Steve to turn it off through the tune.

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Are they planning on offering an entire kit with fuel system and tune included? Is your transmission stock?
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Originally Posted by Quickvr4
Are they planning on offering an entire kit with fuel system and tune included? Is your transmission stock?
I don't think you need to change the fuel system to run ~450whp. The Weistec SC kit comes with bigger injectors.


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