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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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Weistec 3Litre SC for C55 Project

Project starts on July 1st. Car dropped off and all systems go.

I will keep a journal of the progress and posts weekly until car is complete.

My next project immediatly after this one will be a Stage 3 MaxPSI turbo project for my '06 M3.

Would love to see how they fare side by side down the strip before year-end!
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 12:01 AM
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You sending it to weistec for the install? How much?
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 12:13 AM
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 12:38 AM
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You sending it to weistec for the install? How much?
Can't say but worth the investment given the track record of Weistec.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 01:42 AM
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Nice! Hopefully it'll all turn out nicely. I know the fellow with the W208 CLK55 was haing some issues with the Weistec blower install on his car, but the electronics in that are a generation older than the C55. I take it the car is at Weistec directly? I'm keen to see what they do with the electronics.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 03:00 AM
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 06:42 AM
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 10:37 AM
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Good to see you back on here AMGSC, count me in as subscribed too!!!
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Definitely subscribed... How much boost are you going to be running? Gonna have to fight against that compression ratio but given your track record... you know what you're doing!
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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Definitely subscribed... How much boost are you going to be running? Gonna have to fight against that compression ratio but given your track record... you know what you're doing!
My compression ratio is the same as the 211 E55Ks. Engine has been modified.

They will use my car to develop a 2.3 litre kit first while simultaneously developing a belt and pulley system for the 3.0 litre kit as a stage 2 and even stage 3 for those cars like mine that have extensive mods and lower compression ratios.

I cannot reveal to much as the competition will be watching closely but Weistec will publish/post something with pictures once the kit(s) are complete.

I don't want to burst their bubble but believe me. Soon the NA 55 crowd will have a kit that will likely be more powerful than the W211 E55Ks with their stock kompressors.

DynoComp was a able to MAF tune my car to run 12PSI on the Kleemann Autorotor without any problems so I don't think ECU reprogramming will be a problem with Weistec either.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 01:45 PM
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why the change since you already have a SC ?
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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You must have some SMOG guy to get these cars registered here in CA. I sold off all my post 1975 modified cars for this reason.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
DynoComp was a able to MAF tune my car to run 12PSI on the Kleemann Autorotor without any problems...
Track times from its current setup, please?
And good luck with your new supercharger!
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Track times from its current setup, please?
And good luck with your new supercharger!
I can post up the dyno sheets when I get home from work but It's in the high 400s but the guy from The Dyno Shop in San Diego also pinched the brake lines and broke my emergency brake lines too. Don't know what it would have been had that not happened. Boost was recorded at 11psi with full exhaust and MBH headers and ported heads. I never had track times since the pulley disintegrated on my first run and I had to get the car towed back from Fontana and since then the SC made a rock tumbling noise so I was afraid to race it again. Shortly afterwards, the bearings broke loose while I was on the freeway and I thought I blew the motor so it sat on my driveway since May 2012 until now. Here is the link. https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c...r-results.html The rwhp and toque is not all that relevant but the boost level at 11+psi and a perfect AFR.

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Originally Posted by JonMBZ
why the change since you already have a SC ?
Kleemann 1.8/2.0 litre SC was maxed out at over 10PSI. The power band of the dyno I will post later clearly shows it.

The 3.0 litre on higher boost will likely make more power than modified W211K cars with the OEM supercharger.

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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 04:44 PM
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You must have some SMOG guy to get these cars registered here in CA. I sold off all my post 1975 modified cars for this reason.
I know a guy at a Bimmer shop that can get both cars to pass smog. Both cars willhave a stock tune and a race tune. The stock tune will pass smog.

The turbo M3 will also be an issue without connections.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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Map tune or mas tune?
Most likley a MAF tune similar to what DynoComp has already done successfully on my 12PSI Kleemann.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Project starts on July 1st. Car dropped off and all systems go.

I will keep a journal of the progress and posts weekly until car is complete.

My next project immediatly after this one will be a Stage 3 MaxPSI turbo project for my '06 M3.

Would love to see how they fare side by side down the strip before year-end!


I know that Jimmy did this with his Black Series last year and had some later success (despite some initial teething problems). I am so looking forward to your results!!
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Kleemann 2.0 litre SC was maxed out at over 10PSI. The power band of the dyno I will post later clearly shows it.

The 3.0 litre on higher boost will likely make more power than modified W211K cars with the OEM supercharger.
X2, the Autorotor I have maxes at about 10 PSI running a tune and Blkbnzzs smaller pulley. The stock pulley on the Autorotor will only give about 5-6 psi total.

Problem with MAF cars is that they are hard to tune. Rudy Compart is able to get the C55 to run on a W211 ECM by totally rewiring it and has done this on quite a few SRT-6.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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X2, the Autorotor I have maxes at about 10 PSI running a tune and Blkbnzzs smaller pulley. The stock pulley on the Autorotor will only give about 5-6 psi total.

Problem with MAF cars is that they are hard to tune. Rudy Compart is able to get the C55 to run on a W211 ECM by totally rewiring it and has done this on quite a few SRT-6.
Well, if Weistec has trouble tuning the MAF with higher boost then hopefully Rudy will be willing to partner with Steve to swap out the ECU. Thanks for the referrel!
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Well, if Weistec has trouble tuning the MAF with higher boost then hopefully Rudy will be willing to partner with Steve to swap out the ECU. Thanks for the referrel!

I've seen Rudy's work over at Speedriven and its good, real good!! He has an AWD C32 and I've driven it. Took a C32 engine and put it in a C lass 4 matic and it rocked. He's done some of the best W211 conversion to SRT-6 that I have seen as well.

I should have done the swap out when he was regularly at Speedriven and regret NOT having done it since tuning with OUR MAF is so limited in what we can do.
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with all the internal work though why not turbo? or you just going for something different?
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 01:51 AM
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with all the internal work though why not turbo? or you just going for something different?
It's a proven application although on a slightly different platform.

I'm doing a Stage 3 turbo on my M3 since HPF and MaxPSI has proven applications for the E46 M3.

Less trial and error but somewhat uncommon is the perfect blend.
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