pointman

32 doesn't have an "M".

rrohtake

I actually use left foot-braking all the time. C36 was my first AT (my own), and I never doubted it ws designed to be used so. Actually this works for MT great as well together w/ heel and toe.

Accepting M for what it is, sounds tough though makes better sense. I keep in S-mode as she typically happy and gear stay in corner and often shift down just to listen the Baritone. Do you guys have paddle-shifter (perhaps from C63 or 2007+clk55)? I still have buttons and sometimes hard to reach in corner.

ghiaguy

Totally know what you mean about those buttons! They have me shifting with the gear lever when cornering and the buttons on straights.

The C63 paddles are my most wanted mod at the moment & I think its Saab that has a killer writeup on the conversion. I just really don't want to screw the pooch somewhere during the project since its my daily driver & I'd rather work with camel spiders than airbags.

Saaboteur

Just DO it!!!

rrohtake

Hey Saaboteur,
I've read your awesome write-up few times but just can't jump with the idea with 'what if'... (attaching link in case someone looking)

Ghiaguy: Our shifter never like DSG, and can't go there. Still, I have feeling we change our shifters, we end-up opting for Kleeman/EC!!!

https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c...rofit-c55.html

It's funny to have only the Brabus shifter when all else is stock, but this is slightly longer and thought would be absolutely perfect IF I can pull the shifter in brain "trigger".

https://mbworld.org/forums/w218/4457...t-paddles.html

tw2

I find S mode pretty good. I presume the car learns over time? The tcu usually holds to 3000rpm now since it knows i might punch it at any time- very useful after turning at intersections.

I usually select the gear in M before the corner. It upshifts at redline anyway.

ghiaguy

Is this due to your w209 55? - I think the C55 will hold a gear in M mode and effectively bounce off the limiter if not shifted. Think I did this once or twice until I got the timing down at WOT.

pointman

No. C55 upshifts too.

Saaboteur

Hmmm...I don't think so? Whilst I rarely bang the car off the limiter, if memory serves the C55 will hold the gear in M mode until a shift is requested (apparently by morse code) - but will shift in S. A quick check of the manual confirms - page 167. The manual warns against shifting in red, to be sure to do so before hand.

I typically just leave it in S because of the shift speed, but I like to try to select the gear for a corner and us the paddles to shift down to a desired gear.

tw2

Yep early 209. I think the later 209s are like the c55 and hold the gear no matter what. I have found that i don't need to upshift mid corner. Usually I've straightened out before i need to shift.

The last owner must have babied it around. It used to change at 1700rpm when i first go it.

Accidental L8 apex

C55s will not upshift on their own in M-mode. They bounce off of the rev-limiter until something breaks, ie; the limiter itself, expensive parts or your will, but one of those three will break.

And LFB is the only way to quicken up this trans. when needed. Use the LFB to "load up" the slack in the drivetrain and be merry.

pointman

Interesting, sorry about that. First I've heard of that commentary.

Accidental L8 apex

First I'd heard that the 32s didn't or even have an M.

pointman

Just S or C.

firstshadow

More like W and S

Winter mode and standard mode. Winter mode starts off in 2nd and possibly shifts lower, standard is just the plain jane standard shifting file with a first gear start.

tw2

At least you still have the side to side thing with the shifter. I didn't use it very often but once in a while it was nice to have.

dsp_tdi

In ''M'' mode can you start in 2nd gear, also at low speed do you know if your car downshift automatically like a stock tcu. Exemple, if you stop the car in 3rd gear, do you restart in 3rd or automatically downshift in first gear?
''M'' mode is it a real ''gear hold''?
Thanks

ghiaguy

M mode will not allow you to start in 2nd gear. It will also downshift back to first when you slow down enough. Overall, it works well, but the annoying bit is when you want to creep in 2nd and it puts the car in 1st. Usually this is in traffic and that is somewhere you would usually choose fully automatic shifting anyway.

rrohtake

I had a burning question and I was sitting on it.

Does ECU reset make any difference in S mode? It made world of difference in C mode but S seems to be about the same. Once I discovered the S mode, I stopped this weekly ECU reset. Funnily, C mode is very uncomfortable with jurky shifting (S mode in stop and go is also poor) - I guess sign of good sports sedan. For me, 2nd gear works great in stop and go scenario.

Thanks.

ghiaguy

I notice a pronounced difference will all automatic shifting after the ECU reset, in both C and S modes. I only use the car in S and M modes because I've found the reluctance to downshift in C to be bothersome. Though C is pretty ideal for stop-n-go since it doesn't select 1st gear, just don't try to shoot for a gap in traffic...