Bewy

Hi folks.
I have the standard W203 & want to fit a thick front bar. Does anyone know if the AMG uses a thicker bar & how much thicker is it?
Thanks.

dsp_tdi

c32 22mm, ??mm hole ( I think 12mm)
c55 23mm, 12mm hole
eibach 24mm, 10mm hole
h&r 26mm, 12mm and 10mm

I you want more fun, biggest rear sway are a good option!

eibach 24/22 are good!

Daniel Defoe

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MRAMG1

Sway bar sizes:

Stock: 20 mm front and 13 mm rear
C32: 22 mm front and 16 mm rear
Evosport: 24 mm front and 19 mm rear
Eibach: 24 mm front and 22 mm rear
H&R: 26 mm front and 19 mm rear

The C32 front bar is 46.4% stiffer than stock.
The C32 rear bar is 129.5% stiffer than stock.

The Eibach and Evosport front bars are 107.4% stiffer than stock.
The H&R front bar is 185.3% stiffer than stock.
The Evosport and H&R rear bars are 356.3% stiffer than stock.
The Eibach rear bar is 720.2% stiffer than stock.

The Eibach and Evosport front bars are 41.6% stiffer than C32.
The H&R front bar is 95.1 % stiffer than C32
The Evosport and H&R rear bars are 98.9% stiffer than C32.
The Eibach rear bar is 257.4% stiffer than C32.

The Eibach rear bar is 79.8% stiffer than Evosport and H&R.

The H&R front bar is 37.7% stiffer than Evosport and Eibach.

The stock front bar is 460.2% stiffer than the stock rear bar.

The C32 front bar is 257.4% stiffer than the C32 rear bar.

The Evosport front bar is 154.6% stiffer than the Evosport rear bar.

The Eibach front bar is 41.6% stiffer than the Eibach rear bar.

The H&R front bar is 250.7% stiffer than the H&R rear bar.


PS: A larger front bar is going to make your car blow around bends, aka understeer like a pig.

Do like I did and get the larger HR rear bar and let the good times roll around the track and street.

C230 Mulac

I've been thinking of getting BOTH front and rear, H&R setup. What's your opinion on that? I would think the front sway in addition to rear would improve the handling.

maverik259

i did front HR and rear eibach. Worked out really well IMO.

C230 Mulac

Yeah, that's what Robert (Lenin) has on his car. That's the other option I was looking into but I cannot for the life of me find the Eibach sway bar for this car! Does anyone know where to look? Maybe they stopped producing it...

firstshadow

Did you install both at the same time? I'm considering upgrading the front bar, already have the eibach rear.

The rear bar has definitely helped but I feel the car lacks turn in, even with bilstein HDs valved to h&r springs.

C230 Mulac

Maybe I could buy this and sell the front one on its own: http://www.ebay.com/itm/EIBACH-2564-320-24mm-FRONT-22mm-REAR-SWAY-BARS-02-04-MERCEDES-W203-C-CLASS-/181383086657?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a3b464241&vxp=mtr
If it fits the pre-facelift 203 models, should be the same for the C55 right? For the rear one I mean. I know AMG has 12mm end links in front, but the rear are all the same, 10mm?

Doctor Stavros

I have the H&R front and rear set. I would recommend doing both to retain a good balance. They completely transform the handling of the car, especially with my H&R springs.

Will also sell my standard AMG ones for the right price....

Doctor Stavros

I disagree. With both front and back H&R bars, the car is a lot more neutral, less understeer than standard (to be fair, standard bars and springs on the c32 handle shockingly)

I've driven hard at trackdays with the bars and the car is a lot more predictable, and there is no spap-oversteer that I got a lot of on stock setup. It felt so good that there wasn't even a thought of running with the esp or traction control on. Saying that, the Pirelli setup I run was probably helping that a lot.

C230 Mulac

I've been contemplating this for the past week and I think you just induced that light tap to push me over the edge and get these things

I've been trying to find the 22mm Eibach rear and complement it with the 26mm H&R front and since the Eibach was discontinued I can't find it anywhere, so I'm just going to go with the H&R setup on both ends. Thanks!

Doctor Stavros

This is the front. Doesn't look thicker in this photo, but there is a hell of a difference in real life, and the actual bar is so much stiffer. Didn't take a pic of the rear for some reason.

Also remember to lubricate the rear bushes that come with them, as mine is squeaking like mad and I'll have to drop it and lube it!

Doctor Stavros

Also, I wouldn't bother with the softer setting, just go straight to the hard setting as I did. Never once had a 'moment' that's made me think they're too stiff.

C230 Mulac

Thanks for the pics

Any special kind of lube I should use for the bushings?

firstshadow

I've used this stuff on my rear sway bar, as well as on my other cars. Works like a charm and no going back to redo it!

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ic_Grease.aspx

I think I will make the jump for that 26mm fsb

C230 Mulac

Thanks, I'll be picking some up this week then

Just ordered the front links and bushings and about to place the order for the sways!

MRAMG1

Disagree with what

YES using BOTH bars is a better option, but I found the rear alone and used it. Cured ALL of the stock understeer.

If you have the money, then YES get both.

Just please don't say you disagree about the larger front bar by itself

greekspec2

the CLK DTM AMG uses the H&R rear 19mm bar only from the factory...here are the spec's...


Technische Daten




Technical data






Vorderachse




Frontaxle






Hinterachse




Rearaxle








Kennzeichnung


Identification H&R 33 367 VA H&R 33 367 VA 2 H&R 33 367 HA


Fahrzeugzuordnung




model relation






mit Pendelstützenbohrung


10 mm




with sway-bar-link


drilling 10 mm






mit Pendelstützenbohrung


12 mm




with sway-bar-link


drilling 12 mm






alle




all






Stabdurchmesser (mm)




Bar diameter (mm) 26,0 19,0






wirksamer Hebelarm (mm)




Effective lever arm (mm) 155/170 verstellbar






adjustable 175/190 verstellbar


adjustable

maverik259

lol i have no idea what you just posted Greek!

C230 Mulac

haha +1, your copy and paste totally f'ed that one up