Front stabiliser [ anti roll/sway ] bar
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Front stabiliser [ anti roll/sway ] bar
Hi folks.
I have the standard W203 & want to fit a thick front bar. Does anyone know if the AMG uses a thicker bar & how much thicker is it?
Thanks.
I have the standard W203 & want to fit a thick front bar. Does anyone know if the AMG uses a thicker bar & how much thicker is it?
Thanks.
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S600, GL450, GLC 43
Sway bar sizes:
Stock: 20 mm front and 13 mm rear
C32: 22 mm front and 16 mm rear
Evosport: 24 mm front and 19 mm rear
Eibach: 24 mm front and 22 mm rear
H&R: 26 mm front and 19 mm rear
The C32 front bar is 46.4% stiffer than stock.
The C32 rear bar is 129.5% stiffer than stock.
The Eibach and Evosport front bars are 107.4% stiffer than stock.
The H&R front bar is 185.3% stiffer than stock.
The Evosport and H&R rear bars are 356.3% stiffer than stock.
The Eibach rear bar is 720.2% stiffer than stock.
The Eibach and Evosport front bars are 41.6% stiffer than C32.
The H&R front bar is 95.1 % stiffer than C32
The Evosport and H&R rear bars are 98.9% stiffer than C32.
The Eibach rear bar is 257.4% stiffer than C32.
The Eibach rear bar is 79.8% stiffer than Evosport and H&R.
The H&R front bar is 37.7% stiffer than Evosport and Eibach.
The stock front bar is 460.2% stiffer than the stock rear bar.
The C32 front bar is 257.4% stiffer than the C32 rear bar.
The Evosport front bar is 154.6% stiffer than the Evosport rear bar.
The Eibach front bar is 41.6% stiffer than the Eibach rear bar.
The H&R front bar is 250.7% stiffer than the H&R rear bar.
PS: A larger front bar is going to make your car blow around bends, aka understeer like a pig.
Do like I did and get the larger HR rear bar and let the good times roll around the track and street.
Stock: 20 mm front and 13 mm rear
C32: 22 mm front and 16 mm rear
Evosport: 24 mm front and 19 mm rear
Eibach: 24 mm front and 22 mm rear
H&R: 26 mm front and 19 mm rear
The C32 front bar is 46.4% stiffer than stock.
The C32 rear bar is 129.5% stiffer than stock.
The Eibach and Evosport front bars are 107.4% stiffer than stock.
The H&R front bar is 185.3% stiffer than stock.
The Evosport and H&R rear bars are 356.3% stiffer than stock.
The Eibach rear bar is 720.2% stiffer than stock.
The Eibach and Evosport front bars are 41.6% stiffer than C32.
The H&R front bar is 95.1 % stiffer than C32
The Evosport and H&R rear bars are 98.9% stiffer than C32.
The Eibach rear bar is 257.4% stiffer than C32.
The Eibach rear bar is 79.8% stiffer than Evosport and H&R.
The H&R front bar is 37.7% stiffer than Evosport and Eibach.
The stock front bar is 460.2% stiffer than the stock rear bar.
The C32 front bar is 257.4% stiffer than the C32 rear bar.
The Evosport front bar is 154.6% stiffer than the Evosport rear bar.
The Eibach front bar is 41.6% stiffer than the Eibach rear bar.
The H&R front bar is 250.7% stiffer than the H&R rear bar.
PS: A larger front bar is going to make your car blow around bends, aka understeer like a pig.
Do like I did and get the larger HR rear bar and let the good times roll around the track and street.
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I've been thinking of getting BOTH front and rear, H&R setup. What's your opinion on that? I would think the front sway in addition to rear would improve the handling.
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Yeah, that's what Robert (Lenin) has on his car. That's the other option I was looking into but I cannot for the life of me find the Eibach sway bar for this car! Does anyone know where to look? Maybe they stopped producing it...
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03 C32 AMG
Did you install both at the same time? I'm considering upgrading the front bar, already have the eibach rear.
The rear bar has definitely helped but I feel the car lacks turn in, even with bilstein HDs valved to h&r springs.
The rear bar has definitely helped but I feel the car lacks turn in, even with bilstein HDs valved to h&r springs.
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Maybe I could buy this and sell the front one on its own: http://www.ebay.com/itm/EIBACH-2564-320-24mm-FRONT-22mm-REAR-SWAY-BARS-02-04-MERCEDES-W203-C-CLASS-/181383086657?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a3b464241&vxp=mtr
If it fits the pre-facelift 203 models, should be the same for the C55 right? For the rear one I mean. I know AMG has 12mm end links in front, but the rear are all the same, 10mm?
If it fits the pre-facelift 203 models, should be the same for the C55 right? For the rear one I mean. I know AMG has 12mm end links in front, but the rear are all the same, 10mm?
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I have the H&R front and rear set. I would recommend doing both to retain a good balance. They completely transform the handling of the car, especially with my H&R springs.
Will also sell my standard AMG ones for the right price....
Will also sell my standard AMG ones for the right price....
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I've driven hard at trackdays with the bars and the car is a lot more predictable, and there is no spap-oversteer that I got a lot of on stock setup. It felt so good that there wasn't even a thought of running with the esp or traction control on. Saying that, the Pirelli setup I run was probably helping that a lot.
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I've been trying to find the 22mm Eibach rear and complement it with the 26mm H&R front and since the Eibach was discontinued I can't find it anywhere, so I'm just going to go with the H&R setup on both ends. Thanks!
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I've been contemplating this for the past week and I think you just induced that light tap to push me over the edge and get these things
I've been trying to find the 22mm Eibach rear and complement it with the 26mm H&R front and since the Eibach was discontinued I can't find it anywhere, so I'm just going to go with the H&R setup on both ends. Thanks!
I've been trying to find the 22mm Eibach rear and complement it with the 26mm H&R front and since the Eibach was discontinued I can't find it anywhere, so I'm just going to go with the H&R setup on both ends. Thanks!
Also remember to lubricate the rear bushes that come with them, as mine is squeaking like mad and I'll have to drop it and lube it!
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03 C32 AMG
I've used this stuff on my rear sway bar, as well as on my other cars. Works like a charm and no going back to redo it!
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ic_Grease.aspx
I think I will make the jump for that 26mm fsb
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ic_Grease.aspx
I think I will make the jump for that 26mm fsb
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I've used this stuff on my rear sway bar, as well as on my other cars. Works like a charm and no going back to redo it!
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ic_Grease.aspx
I think I will make the jump for that 26mm fsb
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...ic_Grease.aspx
I think I will make the jump for that 26mm fsb
Just ordered the front links and bushings and about to place the order for the sways!
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I disagree. With both front and back H&R bars, the car is a lot more neutral, less understeer than standard (to be fair, standard bars and springs on the c32 handle shockingly)
I've driven hard at trackdays with the bars and the car is a lot more predictable, and there is no spap-oversteer that I got a lot of on stock setup. It felt so good that there wasn't even a thought of running with the esp or traction control on. Saying that, the Pirelli setup I run was probably helping that a lot.
I've driven hard at trackdays with the bars and the car is a lot more predictable, and there is no spap-oversteer that I got a lot of on stock setup. It felt so good that there wasn't even a thought of running with the esp or traction control on. Saying that, the Pirelli setup I run was probably helping that a lot.
YES using BOTH bars is a better option, but I found the rear alone and used it. Cured ALL of the stock understeer.
If you have the money, then YES get both.
Just please don't say you disagree about the larger front bar by itself
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2005 C55
the CLK DTM AMG uses the H&R rear 19mm bar only from the factory...here are the spec's...
Technische Daten
Technical data
Vorderachse
Frontaxle
Hinterachse
Rearaxle
Kennzeichnung
Identification H&R 33 367 VA H&R 33 367 VA 2 H&R 33 367 HA
Fahrzeugzuordnung
model relation
mit Pendelstützenbohrung
10 mm
with sway-bar-link
drilling 10 mm
mit Pendelstützenbohrung
12 mm
with sway-bar-link
drilling 12 mm
alle
all
Stabdurchmesser (mm)
Bar diameter (mm) 26,0 19,0
wirksamer Hebelarm (mm)
Effective lever arm (mm) 155/170 verstellbar
adjustable 175/190 verstellbar
adjustable
Technische Daten
Technical data
Vorderachse
Frontaxle
Hinterachse
Rearaxle
Kennzeichnung
Identification H&R 33 367 VA H&R 33 367 VA 2 H&R 33 367 HA
Fahrzeugzuordnung
model relation
mit Pendelstützenbohrung
10 mm
with sway-bar-link
drilling 10 mm
mit Pendelstützenbohrung
12 mm
with sway-bar-link
drilling 12 mm
alle
all
Stabdurchmesser (mm)
Bar diameter (mm) 26,0 19,0
wirksamer Hebelarm (mm)
Effective lever arm (mm) 155/170 verstellbar
adjustable 175/190 verstellbar
adjustable
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