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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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H&R coilovers installed, have questions

I just got the coilovers installed, and I was wondering one thing. I have them on the highest settings, and the car is still pretty low. I was under the impression that I could adjust the car so it is the same ride-height as stock.

Also, the stock told me that I have to take out the back shocks everytime I want to adjust the height becasue the adjustment is on the top of the shock.

Overall, I wasn't especially impressed with the handling of the car, it seems pretty similar to stock, likewise with the comfort level.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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Even being adjustable, I didn't think that achieving stock height with coilovers was possible.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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I don't think the adjustment is sitting on top of the shocks, instead it should be on top of the springs(or below), I don't recall. But there is an arm that holds both the shocks and the springs, either way, to ajust the height would be a whole lot of trouble.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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Re: H&R coilovers installed, have questions

Originally posted by 99ITR_SC

Overall, I wasn't especially impressed with the handling of the car, it seems pretty similar to stock, likewise with the comfort level.
similar to stock? damn... so the cup kit will be even worse...
then swaping brand name springs seems like an ideal way to go for me...
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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evosport and every other member said the ride comfort is the same and based on everyone else's comments, I'd say that you don't drive your car hard enough to notice the change... Afterall, you left them set to the highest rideheight, which is a definite no no with coilovers

Did you expect something uncomfortable?
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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, which is a definite no no with coilovers
why is that a no no?
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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so is there really a difference in performance if you turn the ESP off? and is there a difference in performance after you run a few thousand miles into the car?
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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so is there really a difference in performance if you turn the ESP off? and is there a difference in performance after you run a few thousand miles into the car?
yes.
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by AMG BRED
why is that a no no?
Typically, it is recommended to be about 20% away from the highest or lowest settings in order to allow the springs and struts to function fully. Any system at its highest setting can top out (opposite of bottoming out) as a result of there being no way it can go higher. Setting the car slightly away from these levels allows the suspension to work more without hitting its limits.
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by A///MG_Power
so is there really a difference in performance if you turn the ESP off? and is there a difference in performance after you run a few thousand miles into the car?
With the ESP on (or off), H&R coilovers made a HUGE difference in the handling of our C32 at Willow Springs. Every Mercedes I have ever updated the suspension on has highly benefited from it. In fact, short of a supercharger (or in the C32's case, our Stage II upgrade), I would recommend upgrading the suspension over any other modification.
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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evosport and every other member said the ride comfort is the same and based on everyone else's comments, I'd say that you don't drive your car hard enough to notice the change... Afterall, you left them set to the highest rideheight, which is a definite no no with coilovers
What are you talking about? You're making assumptions about me based on what other people have said? And you haven't even tested them yourself???

They are on the highest level and the car is quite low. I wouldn't even consider driving the car on the road if it were any lower (i would surely be ticketed). It is substantially lower than stock. It is also still very comfortable, close to stock.

And one shouldn't have to test the car to the limit to feel the difference with shocks. My old car, I swapped the suspension, and at every speed I could feel a very noticable handling change. I have driven the car very hard since installing the coilovers, and I do notice some improvement, but not quite the same improvement as adding suspension on other cars (i.e. E46 M3).

Overall, I am pretty happy, but was quite taken-back with the performance when compared with Evosport's claims.
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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Yes, I made assumptions based on every other comment I have seen from C32 owners with H&R coilovers. And my comment about leaving the coilovers at their uppermost or lowest settings is entirely correct! But what do I know, you've driven an M3

Calm down man, I just tried helping, sheesh, some people these days.
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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I'm suprised. I can honestly say that the H&R CO's made a night and day difference on my car. Maybe you don't have it set up right...who knows. I did do the swaybars as well...so maybe that is a contributing factor as well...
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If you're trying to get harder suspension I hear that the Carlsson coilover kit and bilstien PSS9 are the best. I'm going for the carlsson kit when I upgrade next.
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by 99ITR_SC
What are you talking about? You're making assumptions about me based on what other people have said? And you haven't even tested them yourself???

They are on the highest level and the car is quite low. I wouldn't even consider driving the car on the road if it were any lower (i would surely be ticketed). It is substantially lower than stock. It is also still very comfortable, close to stock.

And one shouldn't have to test the car to the limit to feel the difference with shocks. My old car, I swapped the suspension, and at every speed I could feel a very noticable handling change. I have driven the car very hard since installing the coilovers, and I do notice some improvement, but not quite the same improvement as adding suspension on other cars (i.e. E46 M3).

Overall, I am pretty happy, but was quite taken-back with the performance when compared with Evosport's claims.

I think you might be confusing the the damper setting and the height setting.

The height setting on coilover is on the shock body itself.

To adjust it, you'd need to jack the car up and then adjust the spring perch to the highest position (coilover utilize threaded body for the front strut. and it has perch where you can move it up and down along those threads. And this is the part where you can adjust the height)

Adjustment on the top is normally for damper adjustment and or rebound adjustment of the shock... and it has nothing to do with the spring..

On the coil over the spring position that determine the ride-height..


I hope this make clear of everything.



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