E500 handles better than C32...
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E500 handles better than C32...
After test driving an 04' E500 I concluded that the car outhandles my C32. I felt the airmatic sport suspension really inspired more confidence in turns and handled high speeds better too. Does anyone know if MB is planning on going with an airmatic suspension on the upcoming C55?
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From: Norcal
2003 Nissan 350Z
I think the airmatic suspension makes you feel like the handling is better. My dad has a 2003 E500 sport and the handling is definitely not as crisp as the c32. Although it does feel very confortable when turning (little sway). When pushed to the limits and on paper, its clearly not as good.
c32
braking 118ft
600ft slalom 67.3mph
skidpad 0.85
e500
braking 124ft
600ft slalom 64mph
skidpad 0.83
c32
braking 118ft
600ft slalom 67.3mph
skidpad 0.85
e500
braking 124ft
600ft slalom 64mph
skidpad 0.83
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The E500 only weighs 272 lbs more.
From MBUSA:
C32- 3540 lbs
E500- 3812 lbs
Plus, the E-class has a superior chassis to our C. The combination of the air-matic suspension and this make up for the little extra weight it carries. I am hoping the next C class gets the air-matic setup. Either way, a coilovered C32 handles much better than both.
From MBUSA:
C32- 3540 lbs
E500- 3812 lbs
Plus, the E-class has a superior chassis to our C. The combination of the air-matic suspension and this make up for the little extra weight it carries. I am hoping the next C class gets the air-matic setup. Either way, a coilovered C32 handles much better than both.
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From: California
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I would just like to know how you came to your conclusion that the E500 handles better?
What? Did you give it the ole Car Driver vigorous test with the sales guy? Not likely? What exactly led you to your "conclusion?"
Hey car salesman guy, better buckle up...this turn may be a doosy! YEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAA!
What? Did you give it the ole Car Driver vigorous test with the sales guy? Not likely? What exactly led you to your "conclusion?"
Hey car salesman guy, better buckle up...this turn may be a doosy! YEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAA!
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From: Lean runner
Happen to race friend's E500 w C32AMG
E500 is quick but he slow down in turns, why ? he lose confidence at high speed cornering & C32 just cut it
with a tiny more confidence.
I'd say C32 wins but only a little !
E500 is quick but he slow down in turns, why ? he lose confidence at high speed cornering & C32 just cut it
with a tiny more confidence.
I'd say C32 wins but only a little !
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I think the c32 has the potential to be a great handling car. The chassis is great and it is much more simpler in terms of suspension and electronic systems.
I am a big fan of ABC (active body control). I have driven an SL55 through the canyons and it really takes away the size of the car.
However in terms of modding I would only do the c32. I think ESP and BAS are enough. I wouldn't want airmatic, ABC, SBC, and anyther BC's you can throw on there.
If the C32 is modded it can handle better than any other car in the Mercedes lineup (save the new clk 55 and slr of course).
I am a big fan of ABC (active body control). I have driven an SL55 through the canyons and it really takes away the size of the car.
However in terms of modding I would only do the c32. I think ESP and BAS are enough. I wouldn't want airmatic, ABC, SBC, and anyther BC's you can throw on there.
If the C32 is modded it can handle better than any other car in the Mercedes lineup (save the new clk 55 and slr of course).
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Originally posted by AMG Fan
My reasoning was that it wasnt' a pig compared to the C32. FYI, 272lbs isn't that much more weight.
My reasoning was that it wasnt' a pig compared to the C32. FYI, 272lbs isn't that much more weight.
believe what you want. Let me just add a nice 300lbs lead weight to your car. No big deal.
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Originally posted by AMG Fan
My reasoning was that it wasnt' a pig compared to the C32. FYI, 272lbs isn't that much more weight.
My reasoning was that it wasnt' a pig compared to the C32. FYI, 272lbs isn't that much more weight.
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Originally posted by FrankW
that is a lot of weight difference. The M3 CSL is lighter by around 300lb to the M3, but the M3 CSL is a much more potent car all around.
that is a lot of weight difference. The M3 CSL is lighter by around 300lb to the M3, but the M3 CSL is a much more potent car all around.
Good example, but I will say, yes 300 lbs to some is not a big deal, esp if all you do is street posing...but if you are actually looking to get the best performance from your car, from say...the TRACK...300lbs is a big deal and yes it is VERY noticeable in the handling.
Take a 360lbs 600 sport bike and compare it to a 375lbs sport bike that has 30more HP...the 600 is so much more nimble and flickable. If you rode and tracked a bike, you would understand better.
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From: Wilkes Barre Pa.
Fiscal Neo Con Express
hey guys,
in the world of high performance cars 300lbs is quite a bit.
i am surprised that it is only 300lbs because the E has a
much larger appearance to me. for the E to even be compared
to a C32 does say a lot for how much MB is impoving the
handling of it's main stream sedans.
in the world of high performance cars 300lbs is quite a bit.
i am surprised that it is only 300lbs because the E has a
much larger appearance to me. for the E to even be compared
to a C32 does say a lot for how much MB is impoving the
handling of it's main stream sedans.
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Originally posted by s4iscool
Ok I guess to some, nearly 300lbs is "only" a slight bump.
Man o man.
Ok I guess to some, nearly 300lbs is "only" a slight bump.
Man o man.
BTW, the new S4 is a bit of a porker too!
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From: Chandler, AZ
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I agree that as far as luxo sedans go the E500 is a pretty nice car. It is very quick for its size and intended use, but my experience with both clearly favors the C32 especially when you start to push them. The E understeers on hard turn in and does not respond well to throttle input, whereis the C32 reacts positivley to throttle inputs and only loses its poise at a fairly high rate of speed and cornering loads/transitions.
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From: Diamond Bar, CA
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Originally posted by vlix
how bout new E55 vs. C32?
how bout new E55 vs. C32?
